Enough With The Cutesy Titles, People Are Dead: US Politics January 2021 pt 2

tonight's protest in Tacoma in response to last night's attempted murder is still going rn, if the Portland ones are too tupperwarey for you

tonight's protest in Tacoma in response to last night's attempted murder is still going rn

is that where you're posting from?

The use of something like local are currencies might be useful right now. Help boost each local economy in a way that didn't immediately trickle back out.
Though not sure shopping locally is an option right now. So probably impractical.
But what had me thinking about that was that the 2k in question was also having the effect of stimulating the economy instead of sitting unused in bank accounts. & the economy has undergone unnecessary stress through epic mismanagement before being hit by the pandemic. So something providing stimulus is a necessary cybernetic measure innit.

good morning!

Wondering how egalitarian the economic flow is once you get people creating a dynamic flow by being able to spend on essentials etc. Is it putting money in every surviving shops tills or going mainly to supermarkets and online outlets like Amazon which would mean gluts in certain areas while others go under.

or to put the point i was trying to make another way, the 2k stimulus payment is as much a thing that would provide the arterial flow of a local economy as a handout to a potentially undeserving individual. I think that was a point taht the GOP missed which may be one reason they didn't get behind the idea when it would have helped ensure people voted for them, like quite apart from them all being really nasty human beings.

I have no confidence that we'll see $1400 checks or $2000 checks, because politicians do not care about us common peasants. None of them will be held to account, and nothing will get done to help a populace that's struggling. We'll get more tech-centric, neoliberal claptrap that will allow the ease of capital's flow into the pockets of the already middle class or well-off while the rest of the population rots.

They'll probably look at the rise in crimes of survival and decide that the time is right to build more prisons.

ok but suppose we do get $1400, what would be your conclusion in that case

I'm pretty sure we will get some dough but for the same reasons table sez: "Here's your cash, leave us alone."

I was optimistic that people might have some recognition of the need to help the economy to prevent sinking into a depression as part of the work of reconstruction or whatever after the trump mess. But I could see why one might be cynical after 4 years of the trump mess especially if that was itself a symptom of a deeper malaise. like

hahahaha this is fucking demented omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEKj9Z3hA

oh M@tt why are you inflicting that on people

haha I'm in mn so I can't escape it everyone has to suffer

well well

Breaking: Republican Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio will not run for re-election when his current term ends in 2022.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 25, 2021

He has competition, but Rob Portman might be the dumbest senator in that hallowed chamber.

might be the dumbest senator

Senator Tommy Tuberman seems like the newest champion.

ok but suppose we do get $1400, what would be your conclusion in that case

― Doctor Casino, Monday, January 25, 2021 1:26 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh look, we took one step down the 2.0 mile trail that would be fighting for people over capital, congratulate us.

He has competition, but Rob Portman might be the dumbest senator in that hallowed chamber.

I love how the sole reason he was on the right side of history on something, legalizing gay marriage, was due to his son telling him he was gay. And even then he had stupid caveats!

map, i agree with you that it's an extremely weak one step (though it would have a substantial material impact on many people's lives - just not necessarily a game-changing one in most cases). i just found table's "i have no confidence..." post sort of closed-off, and basically wanted to pin it with a "okay, so if it actually does happen, will you come back and revise this post at all?" i guess it's a good thing ILX does not have a reminder bot though.

I mean, when he talks to the camera it's as if a mule kicked him in the head three minutes ago.

He has competition, but Rob Portman might be the dumbest senator in that hallowed chamber.

― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 25, 2021 9:37 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

might be the dumbest senator

Senator Tommy Tuberman seems like the newest champion.

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, January 25, 2021 9:49 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

MASSIVE Ron Johnson erasure right here.

Doctor Casino, I'll revise my take somewhat, but only insofar as granting that these *absolutely craven ghouls* gave their constituents that *fucking pittance* instead of giving everyone below a certain income level *$2000 a month as long as the pandemic lasts*, which is the only sensible, empathetic, and moral thing to do. But the United States is not a sensible, empathetic, or moral country.

BREAKING: President Biden signs executive order repealing Trump-era ban on transgender people serving openly in the military. https://t.co/6uPeb9Flws

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 25, 2021

We’ll get the $1400 because even the Democrats can’t screw it up that badly.

i just found table's "i have no confidence..." post sort of closed-off, and basically wanted to pin it with a "okay, so if it actually does happen, will you come back and revise this post at all?"

Table starts from the premise that *all* politicians (all of them!) are actively uninterested in helping "us common peasants." There is certainly a valid critique of the distorted incentive structure in U.S. electoral politics that too often prioritizes the interests of the donor class. But it's hard for me to look at someone like Rep. Lauren Underwood, a former nurse, and think "She doesn't give a shit about her constituents."

@ table - fair enough!

What are the odds Portman is replaced by a former football coach? I’d say....quite good.

Definitely excited about the prospect of a Congress filled with gun toting conspiracy theory nutjobs, retired football coaches and stolen valor asshats.

We’ll get the $1400 because even the Democrats can’t screw it up that badly.

― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, January 25, 2021 4:50 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

somewhat heartened if milo thinks so but i have my doubts

Table starts from the premise that *all* politicians (all of them!) are actively uninterested in helping "us common peasants." There is certainly a valid critique of the distorted incentive structure in U.S. electoral politics that too often prioritizes the interests of the donor class. But it's hard for me to look at someone like Rep. Lauren Underwood, a former nurse, and think "She doesn't give a shit about her constituents."

― jaymc, Monday, January 25, 2021 4:54 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a silly counterargument as these are structural issues. table's critique isn't "valid" or "too often" it's simply "reality" and "as much as can possibly be done in order for 'reasonable' people like jaymc to still believe that politicians are still fairly inclined to help people because of their personal beliefs and former professions".

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urban meyer just took the jaguars job

jim tressel isn't that beloved esp. because they had to vacate a bunch of victories due to ncaa violations, he's way out of it now, just has some job a college somewhere in sports admin

any ex pro coaches from ohio are pretty hated haha

I could see Ben Roethlisberger going after that seat. His time in the NFL is about done, he's a native son and he has the requisite checkered past.

or he could just play golf and get tanked and be a zillionaire

i personally have never seen too much big ben that would indicate he's be into politics but maybe i guess?

i feel like a pro QB can luck into some tv gig and get paid way more to just talk shit on TV and have half the year off

as a card-carrying democratic party operative, i am obligated to mention that i too believe that lauren underwood actually cares about the people she represents. lots of representatives do. they're not all josh hawley and coach out there

Xpost He sexually assaults women, would put him in good company in Congress

i also think it's a good thing to shy away from "EVERY" politician and "NEVER" and "ALWAYS" and those kinds of ways of thinking and styles of predictions. if you predict ALWAYS, you will NEVER be right lol

Unreal. The president halted deportations for 100 days but ICE is refusing to fully cooperate. https://t.co/L6omEgte4y

— josie duffy rice (@jduffyrice) January 25, 2021

i mean roethlisberger made $2.1 million A GAME last year i don't think he's gonna want to do a bunch of work for $200K a year

When President Donald Trump announced that Sarah Sanders would be departing her job as White House press secretary in June 2019, he urged her to run for governor of Arkansas. “She would be fantastic,” Trump tweeted at the time.

Now, less than a week after Trump himself left the White House under the cloud of a second impeachment, Sanders announced in a nearly eight-minute video Monday that she’s following his suggestion. Sanders, who endeared herself to Trump’s base while combatively — and sometimes misleadingly — sparring with the press, is seen by many as an early favorite in the race to lead a heavily GOP state where Trump’s role in the U.S. Capitol riot may not hurt her appeal.

“I took on the media, the radical left and their ‘cancel culture,’ and I won. As governor, I will be your voice, and never let them silence you,” Sanders said in the announcement.

turds!

how did she win? she quit her job. not everyone can win, sarah.

You win when you've said the words 'I won', duh

now seems like a good time to get the fuck out of Arkansas if it's at all possible

Arkanexit

Sarah Huckabee Sanders has the mien of a PTA chair who chugs a cough syrup and Liquid Paper cocktail in the car before the meetings, so she's ideal for Arkansas.

Rudy has a podcast?!

This $1.3 billion Dominion v. Rudy Giuliani suit is peak comedy. The lawyers must have had an incredible time writing this. The allegations of grift here are extraordinary. Undermining democracy to sell more discount cigars and OmegaXL supplements https://t.co/BarFmttNVF pic.twitter.com/uZ1G14a3MD

— Drew Harwell (@drewharwell) January 25, 2021

Sarah Sanders would be the meanest assistant manager at a Conway, AR Hobby Lobby if her dad hadn’t played a clown on cable television

hahaha

It's not really a 'podcast' per se... just him rant-riffing on YouTube, like a million other cranks.

to be fair he also has a show on WABC

The cop in Tacoma accelerated through and ran over pedestrians (a crowd of randos watching dickheads do donuts) at 18:45.

A spontaneous protest was taking place by 8pm.

In August, Pierce County diverted COVID response funds to a cop project to monitor specific organisers who had been coordinating protest against, and calling for the arrest of, the individual cops who murdered Manuel Ellis in March.

Two of those organisers arrived at the protest between 8 and 8:30, sat peacefully in place, and were searched without consent and arrested without Miranda reading before 9. They were held overnight until hat-passing raised their bail.

A co-organiser of one of the arrested ppl has clarified that the immediate response was a candelight vigil, as opposed to the protest convened for 24 hours later.