maybe we can add him to the wallogina
― jeff, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
homework: GIS "elephant vag"
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz joeks bruv
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, who are we kidding? One big check later, movie is back in theaters. It's gone too far to stop now.
-- Oilyrags, Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:38 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
seriously. has a lawsuit like this ever stopped a high-profile major studio movie like this from being released?
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Fox has stated it isn't looking for monetary compensation - their aim is for the film's release to be blocked. I'd like to say with certainty they won't succeed, but who knows?
― Duane Barry, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
That's completely untrue according to a quote in an Entertainment Weekly article from a spokesman for Fox. They are looking to get pizzaid.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
wait waht lawsuit
― gbx, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link
The one Shakey Mo filed claiming emotional distress.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/08/watchmen.html
Those familiar with the situation tell EW.com that despite the legal mess over rights, Fox isn't actually interested in suppressing Snyder’s film — they just want affirmation of ownership and/or restitution, and there are many scenarios by which Fox could get paid, including a cash settlement or distribution rights to the film. Either way, look for Watchmen to be released, as scheduled, on March 6, 2009.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Ladies and Gentlemen, Carla Gugino:
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8806/silkspectre2vi5dr2.jpg
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 21 August 2008 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Poor prisoner. :( That's against the eighth amendment.
― Abbott, Thursday, 21 August 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Crudup as The Tron Guy as Dr Manhattan
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=14&id=61074
― Brosef Stalin (latebloomer), Monday, 6 October 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
ever since hollywood shifted into this 'ALL SUPERHERO MOVIES ALL THE TIME' mode, ive been less and less concerned about 'staying faithful to the comic' or whatever. as a kid, i was an x-men fanatic and was completely distraught as to how they handled the movies, in every way. there used to be this big sense of finality or something, like 'theyre FINALLY making a movie of it, so they HAVE to get it right! this is their ONE CHANCE!' i think part of that mentality came from comics/graphic novels being overlooked and underappreciated as storytelling devices and as an art medium and all that.
but now, i just dont care anymore... i guess the x-men stuff just made me not give a shit. you know what? go nuts, and invite billy corgan along. it just doesn't matter.
― the sir weeze, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't tell Alan Moore, but I'm looking forward to this film quite a lot now.
― chap, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Did Zack Snyder Change the Ending of ‘Watchmen’ to Make it More Like ‘The Dark Knight’?
― Buffcoat and Beaver or Beaver and something else (jeff), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
In any case, we think we actually like Snyder's ending better than Alan Moore's — what the heck was that squid thing about, anyway?
writer is a fucking moron and I claim my $5
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Blotchmen
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
The change sounds more or less in keeping with the intent of Moore's original ending, certainly not as bad as that horrible 90s script which is knocking around the web somewhere. The squid would be better though, its what the heckness is what makes it so brilliant - Gordian Knot and all that.
― chap, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
seems to me like it doesn't resolve the central cold war conflict (ie, uniting Soviets and Americans against a common alien foe), since the "common foe" in this case, is um, American.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
well, manhattan suddenly leaves earth fairly early in the story so it's not exactly a stretch to essentially frame him.
the squid will be missed though.
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
essentially frame him as going rogue, that is
Fuck losing the squid imo.
Although I'll still be queuing up when this piece of shit gets released.
― what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
SPOILERS
That's a point, but I'm sure something could be crafted to solve this. Manhattan has publicly disavowed human affairs some time before the climax, after all and I assume the attacks are going to occur on both sides' soil. Not saying the new ending will be better, just saying it might not be absolute shit.
xpost to Shakey
― chap, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm just sayin it doesn't make sense global-politics-wise - the Russians would blame the Americans if an American superhero suddenly blew up a bunch of cities in both their countries. No balance of power would be achieved.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
you don't think the constant hanging threat of a superhero who could strike anytime he wanted and was no longer loyal to any country wouldn't change things?
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Not saying I don't prefer the sheer WTF-ness of the squid ending in the comic but the "framing Dr. Manhattan" ending isn't a terrible alternative. And probably works better cinematically.
But yeah yeah, I know "DON'T YOU SEE THIS SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER HAVE BEEN MADE INTO A MOVIE WAHHH!"
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link
it would change things, but it wouldn't achieve parity like the alien-squid threat does.
I agree that its a better alternate ending than the previous scripts'.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I had one of those earlier scripts downloaded but was too afraid to read it. I've heard they were pretty bad.
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
WHERE THE HECK ARE OUR WATCHMEN?
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Some new footage:
― Duane Barry, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree. The whole thing squid scheme and how it so suddenly achieved peace was always the weakest part of the comic. I think it might make more sense in the context of the story to make the common enemy someone whose power and amoral attitudes towards the human race have already been firmly established rather than some random alien whose supposed threat needs to be boosted with a psychic's brain (the brain bit kinda makes me feel Moore didn't really believe in the ending himself). I think the way peace is reached in the end of the story totally stretches the internal credibility of the story anyway, so the question why Russians wouldn't blame Americans because of Dr. Manhattan's nationality is a minor quibble compared to the general suspension of disbelief the ending requires in any case.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Endings aside, giant Dr. Manhattan hand reaching through the roof of Karnak to grab at Veidt sends chills down my spine.
― Vulves A Colorier (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link
is the whole soundtrack gonna be that horrible billy corgan rock
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
According to IMDb the following songs are confirmed to be on the soundtrack:
My Chemical Romance - Desolation Row (cover of a Bob Dylan song to play over the end credits).
Bob Dylan - The Times They Are A Changing (To play over opening credits).
Simon and Garfunkel - Sounds of Silence.
Nena - 99 Luftballons
Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower
Nat King Cole - Unforgettable
A bit clichéd, but sounds okay!
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
some random alien whose supposed threat needs to be boosted with a psychic's brain (the brain bit kinda makes me feel Moore didn't really believe in the ending himself)
once again anything remotely metaphysical irritates Tuomas
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
you know Moore is a "magician" right?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
who cares
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
you're allowed to make whatever point you want but not being able to separate an artist from his work seems like a bit of a stumbling block when it comes to properly evaluating film/music/art/whatever.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
right I was referring to where Tuomas thinks that Moore doesn't "really believe" the ending - doesn't really matter if Moore "believed" it or not, but I don't see any evidence supporting that, given Moore's vocal interest in magic/occult/whathaveyou
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
anyway, that soundtrack looks pretty terrible i gotta say. might as well stick "i feel good" in there for the scene where night owl gets his costume on again.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
looool
"Let's Get It On" interrupted by a record scratch for the scene where he can't get it up
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
hahahah
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
A bit clichéd
totally. didn't Moore already use some of those exact same songs in the books, like, 20 years ago.
― my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
? he used one of them. Doubt Snyder wanted to bother licensing shitty Elvis Costello songs or Iggy Pop's "Neighborhood Threat"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Desolation Row and All Along The Watchtower = one song?
― my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
MEGAMIX!!!
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
oh sorry I didn't see that - my eyes glazed over after the words "My Chemical Romance" and the only Dylan song I noticed was "The Times They Are a Changin' Into A Bank Commercial"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
isn't 'unforgettable' in there as well?
― allez, allons-y, on y va (ledge), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes.
― my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
it is? where? don't remember that one
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link