Shit, nobody nominated Future Man season 3!
That was only last year!?!?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
My ranked ballot's ready - do you want it numbered or unnumbered forks?
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 08:16 (three years ago) link
Numbered is good
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link
Ta, voted
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link
nine ballots! why not take this inauguration day and think about television? i know i am!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link
Just caught up on S3 of Corporate (the first episode of which was so, so good). Any other recommendations? There's a ton on this list I haven't heard of and I'm keen to fit a couple more things on my ballot. Dark comedies or chilling dramas especially welcome.
For my part, I'd suggest Dead to Me to anyone who didn't watch, or hasn't at all. Just a two-season investment and it's a great blend of introspective dialogue and kind of hysterical plot devices. Plus, Linda Cardellini is just the best.
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
Love her in Freaks and Geeks and Mad Men, will have to look into that.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link
tangent, you need to watch the dress up ganghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuePaFHcVFc
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link
oh wow totally forgot about dead to me s2
― boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
Ranking is tricky this year. Some great shows had really off seasons (looking at you Noah Hawley grrr). Some shows I bet I'm the only person who votes for like Picard lol.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link
that's ten ballots. why not put yours in the post this morning!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:15 (three years ago) link
Putting together my ballot now (but probably not sending for another week). I like fork's ranking system because I thought two shows last year were excellent, three shows very good, and then a bunch of other stuff ok
surprisingly, the side poll is quite difficult to narrow down to 5!
― Vinnie, Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:21 (three years ago) link
fyi the predominant feeling I get when I vote in these polls is that I watch too much fucking TV
― Vinnie, Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:22 (three years ago) link
dude, it was a pandemic year
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:28 (three years ago) link
tangent, you need to watch the dress up gang
Already on it from one of your former recommendations! Need more dark comedy recommendations - I'm currently watching nothing!
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA0Td89Xf7E
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
dress up gang gonna be top 3-5 range for me for sure.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link
i forget if you saw Brockmire? That's as dark as it gets. No baseball knowledge necessary.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link
Guess I know what I’m watching tonight
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link
"comedy" shows that I watched from 2020 that I will rep for: All Gas No Brakes, Aunty Donna, Brockmire, Close Enough, Corporate, Desus and Mero, Dream Corp LLC, Dress Up Gang, Forky Asks a Question, Ghosts, High Maintenance, How To with John Wilson, Kim's Convenience, Last Week Tonight, Looney Tunes Cartoons, Mandy, Mythic Quest: Raven's Banquet, PEN15, Ramy, Rick and Morty, Search Party, Staged, Ted Lasso, Three Busy Debras, What We Do in Shadows, Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse, Work in Progress
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:40 (three years ago) link
the cream of those would be AGNB, Brockmire, Corporate, D&M, Dress Up Gang, High Maintenance, How To, Looney Tunes, PEN15, Ramy, Staged, Ted Lasso, What We Do in Shadows, Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse, Work in Progress.
Brockmire, Corporate, Ramy and Work in Progress are all incredible and have dark, dark hearts.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link
Thank you for the fine-tuned list! Lots of those on mine already but I'll see what I can get through before then. I watched the first season of Brockmire on your mentioning it, but didn't return for whatever reason, though I liked it enough (and baseball is the best). I will get around to it, though probably not before voting.
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link
I probably don't need to do this here, but I just want to take a moment to rep for Action Button. Tim Rogers has been grinding his idiosyncratic critical lens for 20 years, and if you look through that lens, you will see an Aleph-like kaleidoscopic view of the history of video games. If you're put off by the length of his videos, a stranger on Youtube has kindly excerpted 8 minutes of him talking about Dark Souls, which I think is a useful microcosm of His Whole Deal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1cLzU2U5Nk
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link
Which is to say nothing of his poignant-yet-ironic personal digressions, his being born stupid and never dying hungry, and so forth
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link
his entire project is fascinating to me
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 22 January 2021 03:38 (three years ago) link
15 votes now! It's a very mannered collection thus far and could definitely use your voice to even out some of the current peaks and valleys... so vote why dontcha? That way when we run the poll winners you'll have a right to complain when a youtube you've never heard of wins.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
Submitted! Having now actually pored over the list, I realize I haven't seen hardly any 2020 shows (which is in keeping with my general tendency of experiencing media a minimum of 3-5 years after everyone else). At the very least, I need to get on Work in Progress after realizing that I know someone in the cast.
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
it's among my fave things from last year for sure so yeah, watch it! and thanks for putting in a ballot!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
even out some of the current peaks and valleys
Only part I disagree with. Everyone should vote but also they should vote for the very unexpected current #1* that me and at least one other voter put high on the list because that would rule
*I don't KNOW know it's #1, but in my heart, I believe
― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
heh, i appreciate your passion but my enjoyment in this poll comes from a clearer awareness of what the board as a whole has been watching and enjoying this year, which is why I would like EVERYONE to vote. We all had a shitty covid year to lesser or greater extent and at least 95% of us spent it watching television. So let's talk about it!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link
gonna vote next week after finishing the new pope (which is so so good)
― voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
i've avoided New Pope till now; i was literally just reading a description of the first season that caught my eye. Two of the only things i genuinely don't care about are the hierarchies of the catholic church and the british aristocracy. We have similar tastes VC; do you think i'd dig it?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link
oh don't get me wrong -- i want everyone to vote too! i just want them all to agree with me
― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
xp
trust me, i have no particular affinity for papal palace intrigue haha, but the show makes you care, mostly because the character of voiello is so enmeshed in vatican politics and he's such a fascinating and watchable figure. the show also portrays the vatican as a arcane enclave of weirdos, whose backward prejudices and petty grievances have a massive affect on the beliefs and happiness of millions worldwide.
the young/new pope is gloriously unsubtle, hammering home the conflict between the sacred and profane with hilarious absurdity. beautifully shot in ways that intentionally evokes the renaissance-era artwork that adorns the vatican walls. one of the unique elements is how it undercuts moments of true beauty with broad humor, and it exists in a heightened magical realism plane with lots of symbolism and some truly bizarre left-field elements. (there are also subtle hints in the new pope that the show might take place in the future)
forks, i think it might be a bit on the all-over-the-place side for your tastes. if you don't like the first few episodes of young pope (at least watch until THAT needle drop before his first homily to the cardinals, which i think is in episode 5, though you'll probably be able to figure out if the show is for you before then), then it's just not for you.
i think it is certainly a show for bradnelson lol
― voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link
okay, will dip my beak in at some point. thanks for taking the time to game out your thoughts!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
ha no prob. weird that there's no thread for it, gonna fix that now.
― voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link
i loved season 1 still need to watch season 2
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link
If it were possible to send in a bottom three that would lose those shows five points each and FP those that nominated them then Id do that and it would be dracula, three times
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link
lol, i'll note that if it places
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
but vote anyway!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
I have that as my #1
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link
Second ep of Dracula was great, third would have been good if they’d done a fourth that went into a sexy sci-fi future without making any other changes
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link
thanks, PHONE
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
great post vc! I really liked both The Young Pope and The New Pope
― Dan S, Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link
I've actually watched enough telly this year to submit something approaching a worthwhile ballot. Will get on it.
Hard agree with how bad Dracula was. Dreadful bollocks.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 23 January 2021 11:58 (three years ago) link
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― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 12:33 (three years ago) link
Voted, thanks forks. I started a thread about my number 1 show, I May Destroy You, and I wrote about it there. I liked xyzzzz__’s conclusion on it, bolded part is it in a nutshell.
I think I liked that it resisted any kind of takeaway. There was some painful processing of experience, but ultimately stuff got done -- that she needed her rapist to take away her writing block I realise quite a brutal expression of what it is to do stuff, sometimes -- life goes on and we keep muddling through the disaster.
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 12:36 (three years ago) link
A reminder that the second season of The Umbrella Academy came out last year and you should all vote for it, or watch it then vote for it.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:11 (three years ago) link
ballot sent
― that's not my post, Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
I sent mine! Despite the vertigo!!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 30 January 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
indeed you did! So we are at a total of 46... definitely enough to do a 77 but 7 less than last year. Any final takers before I put this to bed?
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:23 (three years ago) link
I just submitted a last-minute ballot.
― jaymc, Saturday, 30 January 2021 06:21 (three years ago) link
takin' it!
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 06:23 (three years ago) link
Okay, closing it up. 47 total ballots with 162 shows receiving at least one vote.
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 07:08 (three years ago) link
Oh no oh no! I forgot!
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:54 (three years ago) link
Despite imago's repeated reminders... Going to fire one across now (or, in fifteen minutes) but completely understand if you can't accept. :(
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:55 (three years ago) link
Fucks sake forks, a bit of a warning wouldnt have gone amiss lad
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link
I"m okay leaving this open for the night but I'd like to close in the morning.
It is 7am EST. I think forks should be able to accept haha
― imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:14 (three years ago) link
xp lol
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:15 (three years ago) link
okay, i took BOTH of the last minute ballots, so we're up to 49 ballots and 165 shows receiving at least one vote and a decent looking top 77 where we are out of single vote territory at #75 and every single #1 pick makes the countdown! Yay me for figuring out a way to make this balance where those boxes were ticked!
depending on moka's schedule, we can likely get this up the week after or two weeks after we finish the album poll in the upcoming week. then i'm done with this shit for awhile; it's a surprisingly time-consuming gig!
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
your effort is appreciated forks
― Dan S, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
moka's too
― Dan S, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link
It isn't surprisingly! My god
― imago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 08:49 (three years ago) link
But the effort is stupendous and I'm so grateful
lol I forgot this was happening
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link
I've only now discovered a show going the last few years Id've nommed/voted for if I knew about it sooner called Superstore. By one of the Office writers, basically its what if The Office, but Walmart. I'd never heard of it.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 1 February 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link
Keep seeing that on my Netflix splash page - will check it out
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 07:11 (three years ago) link
Superstore is IMMENSELY FUNNY
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
And quite subversive! A lot of really good current worker's politics and a great representative cast.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 4 February 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I've watched a few episodes and now I'm saving it up.
― trishyb, Thursday, 4 February 2021 11:31 (three years ago) link
we're roughly on track for a next week rollout here btw
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
We're live!ILX’s Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2020
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 7 February 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
clicktease
― shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 7 February 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link