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This side, the fish lobby stayed strong FF even after CAP, but the fish lobby at that staged numbered about ten big guys who won out, who all diversified into celtic tiger activities.

Longer term v likely they (both scattered now-unemployed post CAP and eventually even the millionaire mackerel kings) moved with the tide (wahey) through FG post crash then SF since.

Can't map to UK there tbh but I'd imagine they nulabed then tried then brexited alright.

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:40 (five years ago)

Tried/toried

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:40 (five years ago)

that’s a good post, but my understanding is that fishermen here catch things like herring where the market is much greater abroad? I was just reading up on it and over 2/3 of fish eaten here is imported - cod, tuna, prawns etc. The graph on page 50 here is interesting for the breakdown of imports/exports.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:47 (five years ago)

I'm assuming a lot in Scotland voted SNP - same with farmers - as so many long term SNP strongholds are in those sorts of areas. Hence why a weaselly Weegie like Salmond's constituency was in the North East.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:58 (five years ago)

... though tbf they had the oil industry up there too.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:59 (five years ago)

idiot (selFish) self-interest worker groups that thought the Tories would do them a solid have such a low sympathy rating when they find out they were gullible fucks. It's almost as bad as ex-mining communities that were destroyed by Thatcher, voting for Tories and expecting a better result this time. Hope some of these lads can carry a tuna because they might have to sing for their fish supper. yeah my pun card is revoked ... I know.

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:45 (five years ago)

that’s a good post, but my understanding is that fishermen here catch things like herring where the market is much greater abroad? I was just reading up on it and over 2/3 of fish eaten here is imported - cod, tuna, prawns etc. The graph on page 50 here🕸 is interesting for the breakdown of imports/exports.


my understanding is that yes, we sell and awful lot of our catch abroad and import a lot that’s eaten. for some reason lamprey to belgium and france is always my go to example, which isn’t a great example tbf.

Fizzles, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:15 (five years ago)

fuck it no wonder i haven't had a lamprey dinner in ages

Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:18 (five years ago)

all this fish talk has give me a craving for tuna/mayonnaise/cucumber sarnie.

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:21 (five years ago)

honestly don’t understand why i’m so fixated on lamprey. it just doesn’t seem like the trade thing i think it is.

fuck it no wonder i haven't had a lamprey dinner in ages


honestly i think i’ve made this up? i read somewhere (lol in a dream) that we exported a fuckton of lamprey to belgium and france.

nothing i have seen since in my life has suggested this can possibly true or that there is any market whatsoever in lamprey.

Fizzles, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:23 (five years ago)

i read this with increasing desperation looking for it to prove my point. but other than the fact that i was incapable of understanding its data and graphs, i didn’t really find anything useful out.

https://www.eumofa.eu/documents/20178/132648/EN_The+EU+fish+market+2018.pdf

Fizzles, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:25 (five years ago)

glad i don't dream about these things tbh

https://i.ibb.co/cDCNRLn/lamps.jpg

kieth chagrin (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:34 (five years ago)

jesus, I refuse to eat an arsehole with teeth

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:38 (five years ago)

they are obv intergalactic vampire aliens and no good will come from eating them

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:45 (five years ago)

was just scrolling down a mile of FPBE type accounts in John Redwood's replies gleefully posting the answer to any fishing industry issues is to rejoin the single market and customs union. You'd think the LibDems would be polling much higher, cos some of these lads aren't letting it drop as easy as Kieth did.

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:02 (five years ago)

people in bordeaux love lamprey but i think they get theirs from the river.

https://french-wine-love.com/2020/12/06/bordeaux-style-lamprey-lamproie-a-la-bordelaise-a-traditional-dish-from-my-region/

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:22 (five years ago)

Don’t know what could have given you the idea that anus dentatus was a key British export I’m sure

Yelp for gyros (wins), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:31 (five years ago)

I'm assuming a lot in Scotland voted SNP - same with farmers - as so many long term SNP strongholds are in those sorts of areas. Hence why a weaselly Weegie like Salmond's constituency was in the North East.

― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Salmond is from Linlithgow!

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:33 (five years ago)

LOL. He's definitely not from Banff or Buchan, put it that way!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:58 (five years ago)

they are obv intergalactic vampire aliens and no good will come from eating them

Roll over calz and tell King Henry I the news.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:00 (five years ago)

if his old man hadn't eaten so much lamprey, the cunt wouldn't have fallen of his horse and died!

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 22:12 (five years ago)

"a surfeit of lampreys against his physician's advice" is the most Real England from the medieval era and also a classic.

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 22:32 (five years ago)

There's plenty mention in "1066 and all that "

Mark G, Friday, 15 January 2021 22:38 (five years ago)

xps interesting stuff re imports exports but the stuff that's caught in industrial quantities in EU waters, iirc, a lot of it goes to africa and asia. Those guys (again) will not see EU trade manouevres hit them as hard as the likes of fellas shipping live langoustines off to brussels, im not up to speed on this stuff anymore but the big pelagics very likely made out like bandits again at the expense of possible actual sustainable small scale local/quality producers, who've gained no extra rights at all really afaict?

Thats kind of where i think marketing to internal customers might have to be a way forward, other solutions arent yet clear without either a lot of pain or a lot of backtracking and without selling an awful lot of fairly high-end fish to british people very soon, that industry doesnt seem to have a future.

nb all info pulled out my arse i went out on the trawlers for exactly one trip, twasnt for me trevor

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:13 (five years ago)

An unpopular view, but I struggle with the language of betrayal. The history of 2016- wasn't that ministers hoodwinked naïve fishermen with false promises. It was that the fishing lobby issued hard demands, up no deal if necessary, and ministers paid vague lip service to that. https://t.co/Y8YnuvmpqB

— Matthew Holehouse (@mattholehouse) January 15, 2021

another take on the fishermen, tl;dr they fell (lam)prey to their own hardheadedness

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:25 (five years ago)

I mean fuck the rest of the country as long as we get freedom from EU quota hegemony is nagl

calzino, Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:37 (five years ago)

I don't know which is worse, the single-issue voters like this or the vague, wafty "this will solve everything" types. Both, maybe.

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 January 2021 11:05 (five years ago)

"brexit" was an excellent shorthand promise of everything

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 11:24 (five years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er2M7mKXcCsxsA-?format=png&name=900x900

well this is the last straw for me

calzino, Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:00 (five years ago)

Landfill mountain

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:36 (five years ago)

when did tom waits get his own mag

Left, Saturday, 16 January 2021 13:09 (five years ago)

Mojo and Uncut do special editions on individual artists.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 16 January 2021 13:30 (five years ago)

No hurry, it's not like the chazzers are taking donations right now

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 January 2021 13:41 (five years ago)

Rayner: "Thatcher was able to do it because her dad was a small business owner. She told a story behind the business and what it was like... A lot of the time it's about being able to connect and tell the human story." #FEPSFAB21

— LabourList (@LabourList) January 16, 2021

fucking hell Rayner. Were you always such a simpleton?

calzino, Saturday, 16 January 2021 21:57 (five years ago)

Like anyone voted for Thatcher because of her human touch. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:31 (five years ago)

It's so fucking dumb I'm reading it in a Ronald Reagan voice, it must have been difficult for her serving in the "IRA twat's" shadow cabinet all that time when she was a closet Thatcher fan all along.

calzino, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:35 (five years ago)

why must the members of the PLP always have such a hard-on for Thatcher?

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:48 (five years ago)

because they’re tories

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:52 (five years ago)

The worst thing about that quote is not the pro-Thatcher sentiment but the clueless ignorance. She'll be banging on about the Winter of Discontent next.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:54 (five years ago)

The whole reason there ever was a so-called Red Wall in the first place in recent history was a hatred of Thatcherism. But now we need to challenge that narrative to win it back for Kieth <:-)

calzino, Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:00 (five years ago)

I find that pro-Thatcher sentiment is often linked very strongly with mistaken ideas about who she was and what she stood for, especially in people whose job is to know these things.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:03 (five years ago)

Even when I thought she might be a useful idiot of some kind - I was always shaking my head at Rayner's terrible and uncritical takes on New Labour. But since Kieth was running the show she's revealed whole new levels of dumbness and horrible fucking politics.

calzino, Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:09 (five years ago)

Good on these doctors.

decided to record it because i'm still kinda shocked https://t.co/Jhk0AteZly pic.twitter.com/uscJzsOKYO

— neal (@ne_al_) January 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:01 (five years ago)

I find that pro-Thatcher sentiment is often linked very strongly with mistaken ideas about who she was and what she stood for, especially in people whose job is to know these things.

I'm not convinced by that. There's nothing opaque about Thatcher and Thatcherism, what you see is what you get, so I've got no idea how you can 'get Thatcher wrong' - unless you're an idiot like Angela Rayner or just a fucking liar, like most of them.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:02 (five years ago)

jesus christ, who the fuck would moan about homeless people getting help? that's clip is horrifying, but that doctor is an absolute diamond

kieth chagrin (NickB), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:09 (five years ago)

There seems to have been a decision taken that the worship of Thatcher is a reasonable stance to incorporate into a political viewpoint, for the reason of attracting the population that have been told often enough that she was the best prime minister of recent history, whatever your political viewpoint.

Mark G, Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:10 (five years ago)

Xpost "But you have been told by the govt very clearly not to help the homeless, what gives you the right or justification to go against that?"

Mark G, Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:12 (five years ago)

i really hate that roger guy. he used to do the sport on 'south today', obviously he's weaseled his way up from that, arse-kissing prick that he is

kieth chagrin (NickB), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:20 (five years ago)

Unlike the Conservatives, Labour is serious about protecting the public finances.

A Labour government would ask the NAO for an annual update on public spending and act on its recommendations.

That's our cast-iron commitment to delivering value for money for the British people.

— Anneliese Dodds 💙 (@AnnelieseDodds) January 17, 2021

cautiously talking up austerity and regurgitating/repackaging the failed 2015 manifesto again at a time when the govt needs to print much more money than it currently is doing just so people can get by is fucking lousy messaging. Yeah I can't sleep at night worrying that fucking British taxpayers aren't getting value for money that's why I'll vote Labour in 2024 ...Not!

calzino, Sunday, 17 January 2021 10:28 (five years ago)

jfc this is pitiful, back to voting for the Vape Party I guess

Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 January 2021 10:46 (five years ago)


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