Free as a Dodo: UK Politics Welcomes 2021

my great uncle is a farmer, and while we disagree on quite a lot politically, he was hard for remain and said any farmer who voted leave is an idiot.

the fishermen here are extremely Brexity, to the extent there used to be a poster covering a whole wall of one of their huts calling for Theresa May to be hanged as a traitor for not Brexiting enough

I know deems has made some good points on this earlier itt but fuck me, very hard to muster much sympathy reading something like that

they don’t even sell most of their catch here. Jesus

I think the fishing industry is important for keeping communities that might otherwise die going but, you know, so was coal mining.

Oh tbc I can see where CAP fucked them and left them embittered, that's all

but there's zero justification for their even pretending not to know that was a matter of their national govt giving them up in negotiations, or pretending to believe that brexit would improve their lot after the fact and so long passed

Tho tbh I'd question the sincerity of the posturing now. I think it more likely that they fancy that farmer-style antics may have some value now that they have a local power to appeal to?

Otherwise, as fizzles sez, there's no sense at all in the reaction. This was all known to be coming.

I reckon after this showboating (wahey) they'll end up getting a nice wedge for marketing to their new british customer base and jack prices up a bit, you don't just not sell fish.

I don't think there was a more brexity vote in the UK than Scottish fishermen. Even their tiny group of pro-indy voters voted to leave EU.

there are some very weird and detailed EU rules about crop rotation and the like, which probably did Remain no favours when it came to people casting their votes on the basis of “control”

This side, the fish lobby stayed strong FF even after CAP, but the fish lobby at that staged numbered about ten big guys who won out, who all diversified into celtic tiger activities.

Longer term v likely they (both scattered now-unemployed post CAP and eventually even the millionaire mackerel kings) moved with the tide (wahey) through FG post crash then SF since.

Can't map to UK there tbh but I'd imagine they nulabed then tried then brexited alright.

Tried/toried

that’s a good post, but my understanding is that fishermen here catch things like herring where the market is much greater abroad? I was just reading up on it and over 2/3 of fish eaten here is imported - cod, tuna, prawns etc. The graph on page 50 here is interesting for the breakdown of imports/exports.

I'm assuming a lot in Scotland voted SNP - same with farmers - as so many long term SNP strongholds are in those sorts of areas. Hence why a weaselly Weegie like Salmond's constituency was in the North East.

... though tbf they had the oil industry up there too.

idiot (selFish) self-interest worker groups that thought the Tories would do them a solid have such a low sympathy rating when they find out they were gullible fucks. It's almost as bad as ex-mining communities that were destroyed by Thatcher, voting for Tories and expecting a better result this time. Hope some of these lads can carry a tuna because they might have to sing for their fish supper. yeah my pun card is revoked ... I know.

that’s a good post, but my understanding is that fishermen here catch things like herring where the market is much greater abroad? I was just reading up on it and over 2/3 of fish eaten here is imported - cod, tuna, prawns etc. The graph on page 50 here🕸 is interesting for the breakdown of imports/exports.

fuck it no wonder i haven't had a lamprey dinner in ages

all this fish talk has give me a craving for tuna/mayonnaise/cucumber sarnie.

honestly don’t understand why i’m so fixated on lamprey. it just doesn’t seem like the trade thing i think it is.

fuck it no wonder i haven't had a lamprey dinner in ages

i read this with increasing desperation looking for it to prove my point. but other than the fact that i was incapable of understanding its data and graphs, i didn’t really find anything useful out.

https://www.eumofa.eu/documents/20178/132648/EN_The+EU+fish+market+2018.pdf

glad i don't dream about these things tbh

https://i.ibb.co/cDCNRLn/lamps.jpg

jesus, I refuse to eat an arsehole with teeth

they are obv intergalactic vampire aliens and no good will come from eating them

was just scrolling down a mile of FPBE type accounts in John Redwood's replies gleefully posting the answer to any fishing industry issues is to rejoin the single market and customs union. You'd think the LibDems would be polling much higher, cos some of these lads aren't letting it drop as easy as Kieth did.

people in bordeaux love lamprey but i think they get theirs from the river.

https://french-wine-love.com/2020/12/06/bordeaux-style-lamprey-lamproie-a-la-bordelaise-a-traditional-dish-from-my-region/

Don’t know what could have given you the idea that anus dentatus was a key British export I’m sure

I'm assuming a lot in Scotland voted SNP - same with farmers - as so many long term SNP strongholds are in those sorts of areas. Hence why a weaselly Weegie like Salmond's constituency was in the North East.

― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Salmond is from Linlithgow!

LOL. He's definitely not from Banff or Buchan, put it that way!

they are obv intergalactic vampire aliens and no good will come from eating them

Roll over calz and tell King Henry I the news.

if his old man hadn't eaten so much lamprey, the cunt wouldn't have fallen of his horse and died!

"a surfeit of lampreys against his physician's advice" is the most Real England from the medieval era and also a classic.

There's plenty mention in "1066 and all that "

xps interesting stuff re imports exports but the stuff that's caught in industrial quantities in EU waters, iirc, a lot of it goes to africa and asia. Those guys (again) will not see EU trade manouevres hit them as hard as the likes of fellas shipping live langoustines off to brussels, im not up to speed on this stuff anymore but the big pelagics very likely made out like bandits again at the expense of possible actual sustainable small scale local/quality producers, who've gained no extra rights at all really afaict?

Thats kind of where i think marketing to internal customers might have to be a way forward, other solutions arent yet clear without either a lot of pain or a lot of backtracking and without selling an awful lot of fairly high-end fish to british people very soon, that industry doesnt seem to have a future.

nb all info pulled out my arse i went out on the trawlers for exactly one trip, twasnt for me trevor

An unpopular view, but I struggle with the language of betrayal. The history of 2016- wasn't that ministers hoodwinked naïve fishermen with false promises. It was that the fishing lobby issued hard demands, up no deal if necessary, and ministers paid vague lip service to that. https://t.co/Y8YnuvmpqB

— Matthew Holehouse (@mattholehouse) January 15, 2021

I mean fuck the rest of the country as long as we get freedom from EU quota hegemony is nagl

I don't know which is worse, the single-issue voters like this or the vague, wafty "this will solve everything" types. Both, maybe.

"brexit" was an excellent shorthand promise of everything

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er2M7mKXcCsxsA-?format=png&name=900x900

well this is the last straw for me

Landfill mountain

when did tom waits get his own mag

Mojo and Uncut do special editions on individual artists.

No hurry, it's not like the chazzers are taking donations right now

Rayner: "Thatcher was able to do it because her dad was a small business owner. She told a story behind the business and what it was like... A lot of the time it's about being able to connect and tell the human story." #FEPSFAB21

— LabourList (@LabourList) January 16, 2021

fucking hell Rayner. Were you always such a simpleton?

Like anyone voted for Thatcher because of her human touch. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

It's so fucking dumb I'm reading it in a Ronald Reagan voice, it must have been difficult for her serving in the "IRA twat's" shadow cabinet all that time when she was a closet Thatcher fan all along.

why must the members of the PLP always have such a hard-on for Thatcher?

because they’re tories

The worst thing about that quote is not the pro-Thatcher sentiment but the clueless ignorance. She'll be banging on about the Winter of Discontent next.

The whole reason there ever was a so-called Red Wall in the first place in recent history was a hatred of Thatcherism. But now we need to challenge that narrative to win it back for Kieth <:-)

I find that pro-Thatcher sentiment is often linked very strongly with mistaken ideas about who she was and what she stood for, especially in people whose job is to know these things.

Even when I thought she might be a useful idiot of some kind - I was always shaking my head at Rayner's terrible and uncritical takes on New Labour. But since Kieth was running the show she's revealed whole new levels of dumbness and horrible fucking politics.

Good on these doctors.

decided to record it because i'm still kinda shocked https://t.co/Jhk0AteZly pic.twitter.com/uscJzsOKYO

— neal (@ne_al_) January 15, 2021