sexual personae

camille paglia's the political and social version of chck delcaring amy grant's heart in motion better than nevermind

challopae

sauteed challops

Glad to see much-loved poster "Vision" back under a newly portentous moniker

are you sure the quotation marks are around the right word?

please don't be serious, what do I need to killfile?

lol I'm not being serious but what is it with ppl called things like Vision or Freedom or Spectrum or thirdalternative

I'm sure if you start a thread about this it will go exceptionally well. ...

Breitbart also began to reconsider the education that he had received in Tulane’s American Studies department, where, in his off-hours from partying, he had been exposed to critical theory. “I wanted to read Mark Twain and Emerson and Thoreau,” he says. “And I remember moments in class where I thought my head was going to explode, going, What the fuck are these people talking about? I don’t understand what this deconstructive semiotic bullshit is. Who the fuck is Michel Foucault?” He came across the work of Camille Paglia, and was captivated by her analysis of the takeover of academia by the left.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/05/24/100524fa_fact_mead?currentPage=5#ixzz0oDZlrFwc

preening bullies, cackling witches, twisted cynics and pompous windbags

paul, yoko, john, george

Breitbart, who is Jewish, grew up in Brentwood, an affluent part of Los Angeles. He seems a familiar bicoastal type until he starts explaining his conviction that President Barack Obama’s election was the culmination of a plot, set in place in the nineteen-thirties by émigré members of the Frankfurt School, to take over Hollywood, the media, the academy, and the government, with the aim of imposing socialism. “He’s a Marxist,” Breitbart says of Obama. “His life work, his life experience, his life writings, and now his legislative legacy speak to his ideological point of view.”

the frankfurt school won, guys. but now, thanks to camille paglia, and andrew breitbart, it will lose.

breitbart and justin beiber should form a policy think-tank.

one doesn't get the concept of german, the other doesn't get german concepts

if paglia is responsible for breitbart, it could be she's the worst human being in the world

we don't have a breitbart thread i guess?

anyway this article is a treasure trove

His companions were similarly urbane. One of them was Kurt Loder, the former MTV News anchor, with whom Breitbart found intellectual kinship after discovering that Loder had participated in an event hosted by Reason, the libertarian magazine

"hahaha i am stupid and a terrible writer" http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/opinion/27Paglia.html

this piece is so bad

not to mention sort of racist

every sentence of this is a piece of shit. what a dimwit.

never read any of paglia's books, was she always just a troll basically or did she get stupid later?

i couldn't tell you tbh, i've never read her book-length stuff either, just her opinion work over the years.

my sense is, like a lot of old people, she writes as if the positions she's been arguing for years have to be accepted as true. "as i conclusively proved in my magnum opus years ago..." is the invisible clause beginning each paragraph, basically.

don't understand how the piece ended up talking about rock music

I read bits of Sexual Personae in college, but yeah she's always been a troll

I do wonder if Mike Karnon ever found his book.

Best one-time poster we ever had?

man i hate camille paglia

she's always been a troll

― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this, basically

calling her a troll is giving her too much credit imo. the kids on 4chan are more provocative than she is.

no, i think calling her a troll is pretty accurate.

oh hai, sarahel

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2010/01/tommy.jpg

i mean, trolls can be effective or shitty ... but for most of the 90s she made a career out of trolling the Ivy League

I just wouldn't overstate the influence she's had on the Ivy League (or graduate humanities in general). I've never run into her thoughts in a classroom or even in a discussion with a colleague. The first time I heard about her was from a friend who had majored in Lit in undergrad, but never pursued any kind of graduate work and I haven't seen her impact elsewhere. Tho I wasn't in the academe in the 90s, so maybe she was floating around the discourse more then.

I just wouldn't overstate the influence she's had on the Ivy League (or graduate humanities in general).

Agreed. She was more about ridicule and attempts at discrediting it in the court of popular opinion. Her name and ideas didn't really have much traction in the classroom, kinda like canonical rockism on ilx in a way. Maybe?

she owes her entire career to the 90s mania re: "political correctness"

basically, on the rare occasions someone would bring her up, the professor would roll his/her eyes, and say something diplomatic along the lines of, "I'm sorry, we only have a limited amount of time here. If you sincerely feel Camille Paglia merits discussion, you can do so outside of class."

sex viagra, what do you mean?

― Vision, Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:44 PM (1 year ago)

good ol sex viagra

Can someone provide (write/link to) a concise summation of what Camille Paglia/Sexual Personae is all about? She has what I call "Ayn Rand syndrome": I don't know anything about her because I've never read her, and I'll never read her because I know just enough to never actually want to. I only know to hate her, but not why.

The full thing is behind a pay-wall, but if you can hunt it down, I'd read this to start: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1990/may/31/feminism-and-literature/

Also there's a long response that NYRB published too -- I just realized I have access to both, so if you can't get them, shoot me a webmail and I'll email you a txt.

Iiiiiiiiiiiii like her!

lol, no u don't

http://thisdistractedglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/children-of-men-2006-michael-caine-pic-4.jpg

@EDB, two other pieces to look at are from Kenyan Review; a book review of SP by Sandra Gilbert and a kind of retrospective of Paglia by Allison Booth.

(The super super short synopsis: In Paglia-land, the world+history is men/art/seeing/penises/Apollo/etc V. women/nature/feeling/vaginas/Dionysus/etc. Gender isn't a construction but something real and definitive, and feminist moves to equalize relationships between men + women are doomed to failure because they fail to acknowledge how intrinsically dissimilar men and women are.)

also like earth v. air, paganism v. christianity, other stupid dialectical cliches about how women drive like this and men drive like this

If only academia had a suggest ban function.

Thanks a lot.

yeah Paglia is all about the challops

This could well be a contender for the best first (including thread creator) two posts ever.

i haven't read it yet but i'm sure it's jam-packed full of lulz

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/magazine/article389697.ece

It's pretty tedious, one-note and pub-bore-y actually. I tried, but couldn't make it through the article. It is terribly written, and has no point that I can see beyond space-filler.