And Sleepy Joe Will Get The Credit: US Politics January 2021

Karl extremely otm

― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, January 10, 2021 2:25 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Agreed.

Fucking hell we all warned everyone about Trump and predicted some dark shit from his presidency but I admit to not foreseeing "mishandling a pandemic resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths and fomenting a riot on the Capitol resulting in the murder of a cop by his minions" being the capstone.

Re KM above: also, if the COVID and the economic situation were to be the same or worse in 100 days, there'd be no reason for them not to say we need to wait another 100 days. And if, as everyone hopes, things are much better on both fronts, that's precisely when even some Democrats will say "time to move on." They shouldn't wait.

Oh, gee, Republican Senators and right-wing Supreme Court justices might get assassinated by crazed Trumpoids? How...

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that would be.

Not entirely convinced the 20th won't be a shitshow, but hopefully the Capitol police / military will take it a little more seriously

Fucking hell we all warned everyone about Trump and predicted some dark shit from his presidency but I admit to not foreseeing "mishandling a pandemic resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths and fomenting a riot on the Capitol resulting in the murder of a cop by his minions" being the capstone.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:33 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It kind of feels like my worst predictions about Trump didn't come true until they all got compressed into the very end of his presidency.

If I ever hear the phrase Trump Derangement Syndrome again…

OK true, good points on proceeding directly. BUT there also needs to be a full accounting by the FBI or a House committee or somebody about the whole thing, reopening old wounds or not.

#BREAKING: In television news interview, CEO of Parler says attorneys representing the company have dropped them as a client.

— Matthew Keys (@MatthewKeysLive) January 10, 2021

re the question of are people coming to our homes with guns good piece from a couple months ago with historical context on periods of low level political violence, one of which we may already be in

_If proud boys and vigilantes can’t pull off a coordinated drive for power, they may opt for a time-honored approach in democratic politics: the “strategy of tension.” The term was coined in Italy during the Years of Lead from the late 1960s to the 1980s, when political violence exploded, with bombings, kidnappings, and failed coups making weekly headlines._

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/30/america-years-of-lead-political-violence-trump-election🕸

Fucking hell we all warned everyone about Trump and predicted some dark shit from his presidency but I admit to not foreseeing "mishandling a pandemic resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths and fomenting a riot on the Capitol resulting in the murder of a cop by his minions" being the capstone.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:33 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It kind of feels like my worst predictions about Trump didn't come true until they all got compressed into the very end of his presidency.

People downplaying the events this week at the capitol and making fun of the dumbass insurrectionists are going to look fucking stupid, because this will be considered another Ruby Ridge in 20 years imo.

Yeah I don’t wanna go all “CAN WE JUST ADMIT I WAS RIGHT” to my friends (most of whom didn’t vote Trump but still thought I was overreacting and that things would be basically fine) but seriously, it’s fucking insane the degree to which huge portions of this country (including most media outlets) thought having a racist lunatic game show host with no regard for human life and a complete inability to ever speak the truth in the most powerful office in the world would be “basically fine”

Even better

VIDEO: Parler CEO admits his comment yesterday about "many competing for our business" was wrong, says no one wants to host website after being dropped by Amazon.

Additionally, he says Parler's attorneys have dropped them as a client. [Fox News] https://t.co/VfhY4jSeOE pic.twitter.com/thhFkOhFUu

— Matthew Keys (@MatthewKeysLive) January 10, 2021

Like Seth Myers of all people understood the gravity of the situation better than 99% of the talking heads on TV

because this will be considered another Ruby Ridge in 20 years imo.

I sincerely hope it will be remembered as a bigger deal than that. Feel like you might be overestimating the number of Americans who even know the details of Ruby Ridge beyond just the name.

frogbs posts otm

Karl otm upthread about acting *now*!

Also wanna second man alive’s post, I didn’t imagine things getting this bad either. I really thought the GOP was gonna try to keep him in check cuz it’s really not in their best interests to have a dumb narcissist calling all the shots for them

I sincerely hope it will be remembered as a bigger deal than that. Feel like you might be overestimating the number of Americans who even know the details of Ruby Ridge beyond just the name.

McVeigh and Nichols certainly knew the details. That plus Vegas shooting are the kind of thing I'm worried about going forward. Meanwhile Federal govt will continue to be worried about ISIS.

The Foreign Policy post is hilarious in barely acknowledging who was backing the 'years of lead' around the globe lol

we're bringing the imperialism home for supper!

McVeigh and Nichols certainly knew the details. That plus Vegas shooting are the kind of thing I'm worried about going forward. Meanwhile Federal govt will continue to be worried about ISIS.

Oh absolutely, I have the same concern. Was just pointing out that I’m not sure Ruby Ridge is as well known to the general public as it should be.

Jan 17 seems to be the date most commonly posted-boasted before THE Day:
Various virtual fliers circulating on social media promise an "armed march" on Capitol Hill and in every state capital a few days before the inauguration. Other posts promise violence on Inauguration Day itself...Twitter was particularly concerned by a Trump tweet indicating he wouldn't attend the inauguration. That message "may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a 'safe' target."
...Some state legislatures are also concerned about the potential for violence. In the wake of the Capitol insurrection, Florida lawmakers have proposed a measure that would increase penalties for people arrested during a violent protest.

"If you injure a police officer during that period of time, you will go to jail for at least six months," Florida House of Representatives Speaker Chris Sprowls told Fox News. "If you are arrested during an aggravated riot situation, you will spend the night in jail."
https://www.npr.org/sections/congress-electoral-college-tally-live-updates/2021/01/09/955289141/as-inauguration-nears-concern-grows-of-more-violence-to-come

I was confused by PBKR's Ruby Ridge comment too, but I think he meant *on the right* not in general

I really thought the GOP was gonna try to keep him in check cuz it’s really not in their best interests to have a dumb narcissist calling all the shots for them

I think (and this is much more terrifying) that the GOP did in fact look at the momentum Trump and his supporters' government-overthrown plan had, and decided to take a wait-and-see approach. They were fully onboard with a government overthrow, if it worked. Because it would have meant they'd run things forevermore. People are like "Trump went too far and now the GOP are triangulating their response" but I think the triangulation happened beforehand. Like, does anyone really buy McConnell's feelgood bullshit speech during the joint session? If they'd had the votes to overturn the electoral college results, he would have been right there giving a slightly different speech welcoming Trump to a second term.

xp, yes, I meant that the insurrection is initially viewed as a failure by the maintstream, but on the right will be viewed as a "shot heard round the world" and catalyst for years of attacks.

yeah Ruby Ridge looms large in the mind of all the wrong people, almost a religious significance. especially if you think the Constitution was dictated to the Founders by God Himself. Bundyville podcast gets into this territory

“It Could Happen Here”, too

Schwarzenegger video is really good

Missed that not only is the PGA pulling their golf tournament from Trump, they have implemented a lifetime ban on ever holding any events at any of his properties ever again. Still think one of the most OTM things I've ever read about this asshole is that he will be the first president in history to end with fewer things named after him than when he started.

In pinochle, "trump" cards will be renamed "insurrection" cards

The FBI has arrested the man photographed with zip ties in the Capitol. "One of the officials said the authorities had recovered several weapons." Time to start making examples of these people. Behavior that goes unpunished will get repeated. https://t.co/yMc8ut3Beo

— Yair Rosenberg (@Yair_Rosenberg) January 10, 2021

If they'd had the votes to overturn the electoral college results, he would have been right there giving a slightly different speech welcoming Trump to a second term.

^ otm x 1000. cannot be overemphasized.

I'm a little confused about the Ruby Ridge comments, too, to be honest, and I've read A LOT about Ruby Ridge.

I think (and this is much more terrifying) that the GOP did in fact look at the momentum Trump and his supporters' government-overthrown plan had, and decided to take a wait-and-see approach. They were fully onboard with a government overthrow, if it worked.

True but there’s a pretty steady line from Handwaving away the Access Hollywood video -> Not pushing back on Trump blatantly lying about “3 million illegal votes” in 2016 -> Working tirelessly to discredit the Russia story even though there’s clearly something there -> Refusing to allow any witnesses in the Ukraine impeachment -> Humoring his allegations of voter fraud -> Stoking an insurrection at the Capitol. I kinda thought in 2017 that members of the GOP would get on his ass about how lying constantly and not even pretending to consider Democrats as people was ultimately going to backfire on them, and how blowing their political capital on dipshit ideas like a border wall or a Muslim ban was gonna waste the four years of power they’d lucked into. I guess ultimately they got the tax cut and SC justices in the end.

In pinochle, "trump" cards will be renamed "insurrection" cards

lol I was just chatting with a friend about how much Trump has basically ruined Sheepshead for us, definitely can't play that game in mixed company anymore without things getting political

Worth remembering Crow (a Democratic rep) was an Army Ranger, so I'm sure he got down to brass tacks.

.@JasonCrowCO6 says the DoD is aware of “further possible threats posed by would-be terrorists in the days up to and including Inauguration Day l,” per readout of his convo w/ Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. pic.twitter.com/8JYR7pGmTI

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) January 10, 2021

Also

BREAKING: man wearing antisemitic 'Camp Auschwitz' hoodie has been identified by @CNN as Robert Keith Packer of Virginia.

Kudos to @cnn. Been struggling for >24h with getting final confirmation after making a tentative identification.

https://t.co/qBImlBQolz pic.twitter.com/3XUPTf5S3r

— John Scott-Railton (@jsrailton) January 10, 2021

One of the comments suggests his hoodie is 'ironic'

Appears that the no-fly lists are kicking in...

He found out pic.twitter.com/QV9npSVJNp

— Lauren Hough (@laurenthehough) January 10, 2021

i almost take solace in the fact that these people have all been so much dumber than any anarchist i've demonstrated with

One of the comments suggests his hoodie is 'ironic'

It's like rain on your wedding day

God that video is filling me with satisfaction.

hey man least they didnt arrest u got to look on the bright side

"America.... closed?"

Feeling some real Scott Tenorman vibes from no-fly white guy rn

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Just Now: The flag at the White House has been lowered. pic.twitter.com/jiRIfqY7PE

— Weijia Jiang (@weijia) January 10, 2021

in mourning for trump's second term, which was stolen from him

Another of the many reasons to get him out of there ASAP, if there are in fact credible threats leading up to the inauguration, then there's a very good possibility he will do nothing about it, or work to stifle it. That information must make it into the right hands.

i almost take solace in the fact that these people have all been so much dumber than any anarchist i've demonstrated with

My wife and I attended the “Stop the Steal” Trump Insurrection on Wednesday (as observers, NOT participants) and there are FIVE big take-aways from what we witnessed and heard outside the Capitol that I'd like to share. (We took all the pictures below). 1/22 pic.twitter.com/NTV7JTUXZa

— Terry Bouton (@TerryBoutonHist) January 10, 2021