And Sleepy Joe Will Get The Credit: US Politics January 2021

If Democrats can clone Obama every 8 years they can successfully counter that, though.

everyones got a permanent majority u just slice and dice this and that demographic mix it with some money and bake it, which is a great plan until a psycho reality host blows up yr spot

You can't clone a politician, let alone create a bespoke, genetically modified clone. Trump was a unique figure, and a big part of his appeal WAS the insanity. In theory, some other successful demagogue could come along. That may very well happen. But it's not a formula.

I wouldn’t be confident the democrats would win if Sean hannity or tucker Carlson decided to run. Their rural idiot market is large and those two are sophisticated enough to retain some suburban tax vote. Their problem though is that the GOP is pretty widely seen as an insane criminal enterprise this week, and it might take a few weeks for that waft to go away.

i think what could be copied about trump is admitting that america is deeply fucked and promising to restore glory

hillary was dead as soon as she said america is already great

In all seriousness the 2022 and 2024 attack ads for the democrats write themselves. Just show the gop candidate praising trump, and then cut to trump on January 6.

mike davis's take on where they're at now

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/riot-on-the-hill

I saw that earlier. I really like Mike Kelly but this is idiotic:

“What was essentially a big biker gang dressed as circus performers and war-surplus barbarians – including the guy with a painted face posing as horned bison in a fur coat – stormed the ultimate country club, squatted on Pence’s throne, chased Senators into the sewers, casually picked their noses and rifled files and, above all, shot endless selfies to send to the dudes back home. Otherwise they didn’t have a clue.”

that definitely seemed like a take at first but as more details emerged it quickly became a bad take. The news cycle moves fast.

The rest of the piece is fine!

People who talk about replicating Trump's success seem to understate the thing where he is a person and a personality that has been unaccountably shoved down the throats of Americans for the better part of four decades.

The Republican Party are people, my friend and they aren't all dead.

Shit, they still hold 50 seats in the US Senate and ton of governor's offices and state legislatures. Swing states are still able to swing. What they don't have atm is a platform, because they all they stood for this election was Trump and whatever the fuck drooled out of his skull. Platforms are a dime a dozen.

a big challenge for replicating trump is he came up outside the party apparatus, he had big fame and his own money, the party would never purposely create a candidate like that the big donors dont like trouble, also he took them by surprise everyone thought he was on the verge of falling off the whole time, but now they know about the concept of a trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/pence-attend-biden-inauguration-n1253645

pence is big mad

trump did try to have him killed

xxxp Back on Nov.7, the New Yorker published this long stroll through the Republicans, talking in various ways about life after Trump, often w some relief:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-republicans-without-trump Also a long-ass stroll through the Lincoln Project, but that's another story: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/10/12/inside-the-lincoln-projects-war-against-trump

Funny how 50000 or so votes to Biden in a few states gets you from "my God the Dems couldn't even win the Presidency against the worst President ever" to "my God the Republican party is finished"

tbf there is the whole coup situation too

xp I think the Trump formula is actually pretty easy: celebrity + hope + bigotry. Trump's insanity is a double-edged sword; it helped him build a cult but also lost him some votes. If they want to replicate his success without the insanity, all they need to do is find another racist, sexist celebrity who's willing to make an endless series of false promises.

xxxxpost there's going to be bumps in the road in any relationship, you can't hang on to resentments

prob not that easy but im sure well get to see the theory tested out lol xp

Ppl were saying it 2 months ago tho
Just feel like every election generates the same sort of overreactions you see after every game in a playoffs series.

Funny how 50000 or so votes to Biden in a few states gets you from "my God the Dems couldn't even win the Presidency against the worst President ever" to "my God the Republican party is finished"

it's amazing how Trump managed to badly expose every flaw of our political and electoral system

There's also the whole thing where Trump, Q, etc. have told everyone that the Republican Party are also all traitors and globalists.

But memories are short and there are always unforeseen swings. Republican party was dead until Reagan, then Democrats were dead until Clinton, etc.

One thing you definitely have to factor in is the grip the GOP still has on state houses in a census year (plus who knows what fuckery happened in the census). Gerrymandering will continue to skew things. Also the 6-3 SCOTUS majority could make some decisions on electoral issues that hurt democrats.

There's a shit load of dumb selfish nationalists in US so until that changes Republican party isn't going anywhere

prob not that easy

I think the hard part is going to be replicating the particular kind of celebrity Trump had in his reality TV days, where he was seen as aspirational and an authority figure in a way that was apolitical.

From the fall of Nixon and onward, conspiracy nuts and kooks have been inside the GOP telling their voters that elements of the GOP aren’t sufficiently loyal/kooky. That’s part of the way their operation works in keeping politicians in line.

UPDATE to the update: We’ve just hit 180 cosponsors of the Article of Impeachment drafted by Rep @davidcicilline, @RepRaskin, me and @HouseJudiciary staff.

We will introduce the Article of Impeachment this Monday during the House’s pro forma session. https://t.co/qm7LmXhOgK

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) January 9, 2021

College football coaches, I’m telling you. Tuberville is the canary in the coal mine. Find one who isn’t quite as stupid and he could be President.

They also have to pretend to be religious.

FOX News will find a host of new lickspittle Republicans to boost as the new Messiah candidates to Make America, etc.

That’s right up the ol footbaw coach’s alley. They all do weird religious shit because God has ordained them SEC champs.

Containing the blame may not be as easy as hoped, even w that big orange mug:
The Southern Poverty Law Center is calling for an investigation into the role a group headed by Alabama AG Steve Marshall played in organizing a rally at the U.S. Capitol that turned violent, resulting in five deaths and the takeover of the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob.

Marshall said earlier this week he has ”directed an internal review” after reports that the policy branch of the Republican Attorney Generals Association -- a branch headed by Marshall -- played a role in organizing and promoting the protests around the U.S. Capitol Building. Marshall said that decisions were made within that group without his authorization but did not specify further....The SPLC Action Fund issued a news release Saturday saying that the Alabama Ethics Commission and Alabama State Bar should investigate the matter, not Marshall and the RAGA. RAGA was way into that (already skeevy and floundering) Texas AG's suit vs. states where Trump lost.
https://www.al.com/news/2021/01/splc-calls-for-investigation-into-alabama-ags-role-in-capitol-protest.html

jeez, it looks like the crazy ass "lead rioter" (btw, has he been found/charged yet?) was very, very close to getting inside the senate. like, very, very close.

this is the photographer:

Just now realizing how much of a close call it was in the Senate. Literally seconds. https://t.co/8JwiZvSngy pic.twitter.com/8P6aPo5aVh

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 10, 2021

Looking again at the video I took of the mob storming the Senate, there’s a moment when the lead rioter looks right for a second, before continuing to follow the officer left, away from the immediate entrance to the Senate. This happened at 2:14. pic.twitter.com/8oetsPvhIb

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 10, 2021

you know what would make the senate floor more secure? doors

Find one who isn’t quite as stupid and he could be President.

I'm too lazy t find the relevant quote but Kurt Vonnegut predicted that when America got its fascist dictator, instead of il Duce or Das Fuehrer, he'd be nicknamed Coach.

tommy tuberville

america loves our coach

coach is tough but he loves us back

American men long to be topped by a man named coach

College football coaches have the added bonus (for cons) of making liberal heads explode with bad faith "I've spent my life educating young men of color" arguments.

o shit, in the right rail of the above tweet, here's a reply thread w footage found on parler:

I have been combing through Parler. I found some footage that might be helpful. I have had difficultly sharing with @FBI @FBIWFO. Here goes (a thread). I deleted my first because it was unorganized. #SeditionHasConsequences #Sedition #WhiteSupremacy #Antisemitism #racism

— Laura N. Eckstein (@lauraneckstein) January 10, 2021

Oh shit, think there's some gore in there?
Just FYI. Each video’s source comes directly after in the thread
Lunamadre MA, LPC
@lunamadresheryl
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15m
Replying to
@lauraneckstein

@FBI
and
@FBIWFO
Wow Laura. You did a great service! That last one has so many faces. Thank you for wading into the cesspool for us.

talking shit with a gun in yr face is sure something

pic.twitter.com/KZ7w89t2jP

— Laura N. Eckstein (@lauraneckstein) January 10, 2021

It's more like a burglary scene--all through those narrow antique spaces---'til the goons come swarming back (and forth, them and what cops there are, also armed plainclothes)

lots of new details in this new post article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-capitol-siege/2021/01/09/e3ad3274-5283-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html)

Amid the mayhem, a large group of senators were secretly led to a room in a Senate office building. Stenger was with them, and the furious lawmakers peppered him questions.

“How does this happen? How does this happen?” demanded Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.)

Stenger could not muster much of an answer, practically inaudible as he dispiritedly debriefed the senators. “He was talking in circles,” Graham thought to himself.

Sen. Joe Manchin III, D-W.Va., called Stenger’s attempt to field that question “absolutely pathetic” and further reduced confidence in the room. As Graham pressed for a better explanation, Stenger’s voice got weaker and smaller.

“Here’s your mission: Take back the Senate,” Graham told Stenger. “Whatever you need to do, do it. We’re not leaving this place. We’re not going to be run out by a mob.”

Finally, the Senate sergeant at arms sat down amid the others in the room, saying to no one in particular: “I wish I had just retired last week.”

You've got to be in a pretty low place to get dressed down by LG.

lmao doing the debrief in the middle of the emergency true lil baby tyrant shit

To think, he was just one week past retirement.