have you quit the labour party yet?

probably something more like very worrying private polling rather than idiot death-threats from shit-posting muppets!

That all his conservative messaging and not giving a hoot about the biggest teachers' unions advice during what is turning into a national catastrophe, and that this has only gained him a negligible slither of support from knuckle scraping troglodytes in Bishop Auckland should also have him worried. His current electoral math is so bad it is almost guaranteed to keep the tories in power for another decade.

It's the worst time in the last 70 years to be playing a cautious conservative politically narrow-game and hoping not to upset the status quo and also hoping for the best.

calz i think he's more a symptom than a cause but it's beautifully life affirming to watch him fuck himself like ths

who put 50p in kieth

i wdn;t throw a sharpened 50p at that cunt

something has put the fear into him recently

― calzino, Friday, 8 January 2021 22:53 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

or someone ;)

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getting a very "nimoy in the monorail episode" vibe from this

*evaporates*

a couple of wars on different fronts against Kieth now. He's got the FBPE lamers like Duffield who remembered what he did last summer, baying for his blood as well as all the pro-Corbyn branches piling up the votes of no confidence. It won't end well for him, but when it does i'll pull up a deckchair and get some popcorn.

he lacks the savvy of a Blair

whar a terrible indictment

he probably wouldn't survive Chicken Coup 2, because Corbyn for all his faults inspired loyalty amongst a big enough swathe of the membership to withstand such attacks.

Imagine still paying your dues to these muppets...

if you don't pay your dues you can't troll the leadership with no confidence votes

cunt doesn't even have confidence in himself. joined a union just to try and cut him off, the Tory muppet cunt

Wonderful news. https://t.co/n9MYOQdH6a

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) January 9, 2021

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Fingers_and_thumb_in_circle_downward_motion.jpg

hmmmm plebs love the royals so i'd better put this out to prove i'm not some kind of a traitor like the last guy

https://i.imgur.com/nuMqytA.jpg

Wonderful news.

I guess the herpetologists out there will be relieved that it works on lizards

I think, by this stage, any photos of Prince Philip should come with some sort of warning for those of a nervous disposition.

I got all excited until I got to the word "vaccine"

LOL SAME

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErVAexBXIAIDmqt?format=png&name=small

Sir Keir Starmer has declared Labour will become "the party of the family", as he calls on the Government to scrap an inflation busting rise in council tax in April which will hit household budgets....

from the latest paywalled Torygraph Kieth piece that thankfully fades as you hit the wall

Finally a party for normies

This has faded into insignificance now, but at the start of the Labour leadership contest Kieth obv identified Nandy as a main rival and went for his own gritty w/c Town's credentials in quite an embarrassing manner which i can barely remember now. But then we found out he was about as w/c as someone whose dad was from the factory management classes

He's probably closer to working class than Crombyn but so what, so are half of Blue fucking Labour

Sorry but you need multiple families to be PM now.

Corbyn was pure middle class to the core and never pretended to be anything else and also was the best Labour leader we will see in our whole sorry lifetime alas

I bet Corbyn's upbringing was more culturally middle-class and Starmer's more fiscally middle-class - that would seem about right.

until you take Piers into the reckoning!

Ah, the working-class factory owners of East Surrey, salt of the earth

— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) January 10, 2021

i suspect that jeremy and piers' parents were quite progressive inasmuch as it seems they both seem to have absorbed and been deeply affected by very different aspects of 1960s politics and culture (jeremy anti-war, civil rights, new left(?) piers techno-utopia libertarian bullshit) this is a very underdeveloped thought instinct

Asked whether he should apologise to unions on schools, Starmer says "we all owe them an apology" after they worked so hard over Christmas on preparations

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) January 10, 2021

Piers left the Labour Party over Iraq and to spend more time with his brain worms and his weather prediction company that after some early successes seemed to make a series of dud predictions!

He featured in a Channel 4 documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle in 2007; a scientifically reviewed complaint to Ofcom noted that he was introduced as 'Dr Piers Corbyn, Climate Forecaster' despite not having a doctorate nor any qualification specifically in climate science or environmental science.

lol he's a funny guy tbf!

Well we're all climate forecasters if you think about it

Piers was also Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006

Yeah but they give that shit to anybody, I got it one year

there might have been a point somewhere 70's-80's where Jez and Piers seemed almost ideologically/politically identical, but it seems like Piers went on a bit of a diversion off the beaten track.

So I'm obviously a casual observer here, but at this point, what distinguishes the Labour Party from the Tories?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/10/keir-starmer-accepts-end-of-eu-free-movement-in-brexit-reversal

Is the new ploy something like 'the Conservative Party, except with a less shambolic-looking leader?'

more like the Tory Wets Party with an equally shambolic leader imo

The Brexit issue was never a hard line between the parties. It would be unfair to guess what the differences are now because Kieth won't announce any policies until a general election is called, he'll just kvetch lamely in his silly voice

Don't even know why they bother, it's not like Tory voters will ever pivot to Labour. The other way round, yes. All they're doing is alienating their actual voter base.

I'm excited to read the first think piece about how mocking Kieth's voice is middle class privilege or something

It's funny really that just over a year ago Kieth was working an FBPE crowd as a people's vote advocate. Paul Mason was in that crowd chanting Stop The Coup! and looking like a total bellend. Now Kieth has once again shown he is a pure careerist and I think he might he might have pissed off enough ppl now that he will be facing a leadership challenge before the next election.

I mean, I am aware that ending freedom of movement was among the chief motivators of Brexit and immigration in general appears to have become a dodgy issue even for nominally leftier continental parties such as La France insoumise, which is one of the more depressing signs of the times. Nor am I *entirely* averse to compromise if it means ousting the Tories (with the proviso that this kind of strategy is extremely dicey to begin with), but even if we generously allow for that, how far do you take the not-Corbyn line before you suddenly turn into the Lib Dems? Starmer is repeatedly hitting the same ceiling in the polls despite how conspicuously disastrous Johnson's handling of the pandemic has been on pretty much every front save for the vaccination campaign (relative to the rest of the Western world, that is), so at this point, it's like, why don't you take a fucking hint? Sorry for stating the obvious, but every time this guy comes up in my news feed, I just shake my head.

Hopefully the challenge will come from Fozzie Bear

pom before Corbyn there were times when the Lib Dems were to the left of Labour on some positions, and not because the Lib Dems were good

Fair enough. I def wasn't paying attention to British politics during the Blair years, which all boiled down to complicity in the Iraq War when viewed from Canada.

Blair praised Thatcher, failed to address her assaults on the welfare state or trade unions and joined in several foreign adventures with death tolls in the millions which maybe offers some context to our feelings about Corbs

Starmer is auditioning for boris job, just not the way ppl would have imagined perhaps

Its not just that he’s terrible opposition at a time when opposition is easier & more needed than ever - I’m not even convinced he would have handled the pandemic much better in Johnson’s place tbh