And Sleepy Joe Will Get The Credit: US Politics January 2021

nuke this country for the greater good imo

how about we don't

Honestly should be some investigations down the road as to which companies printed up those shirts emblazoned with "Civil War" so they don't get supported by anyone else. Judging by the signs these numbnuts have waved, the shirts seem a little more professionally made than I would expect.

I’m amazed how many of those idiots are filming themselves committing crimes. I know we’ve already discussed upthread their backwards thinking - but almost all of them have their cameras out!

Most of their "movement" online exists online. If they don't post it, it didn't happen. The real world is just a meme-staging area.

ONLY exists online, that should say.

I’m amazed how many of those idiots are filming themselves committing crimes.

Because they don't get punished! it's a feedback loop. Hence Rick Perlstein suggesting the message to more MAGA assholes is just to do it again, because the stakes are so low. And they will do it again.

Nuking would mean the white fascists won. Nope. Not gonna happen.

they literally made t-shirts

iirc there was a washpost series of articles, the week leading up to 1/6/21, that was all about how ultra-right dumbasses were openly making plans on facebook and other public forums to incite chaos in dc

And it's clearly not just online. Some asshole GOP rep was all "this was just a few thousand idiots out of millions of Trump supporters." Is that supposed to make me feel better? Safer?

Honestly should be some investigations down the road as to which companies printed up those shirts emblazoned with "Civil War" so they don't get supported by anyone else. Judging by the signs these numbnuts have waved, the shirts seem a little more professionally made than I would expect.

that's the zazzle.com quality that we've come to expect

what -- doesn't amaze me, per se, but amazes me that it is just being let slide, is that people are simultaneously claiming that the protests are actually antifa, and that antifa people go to great lengths to hide and obscure their identity and generally not film themselves

permaban/unfollow anyone who claims the protests are antifa imo

The 25th Amendment is a copout. It is a press release that puts the onus on the President's own Cabinet members to do something while members of Congress go home rather than hold the President accountable directly.

— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) January 7, 2021

this is 100% otm.

I don't follow anyone who claims the protests are antifa but that doesn't mean I don't read every few minutes something about how rep. himmler (r) is getting to the bottom of this

Honestly should be some investigations down the road as to which companies printed up those shirts emblazoned with "Civil War" so they don't get supported by anyone else. Judging by the signs these numbnuts have waved, the shirts seem a little more professionally made than I would expect.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:27 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It looks like it was teechip.

https://teechip.com/maga-civil-war-tee-shirts

I am very tempted to tweet the picture of the dude roaming the Capitol with a Confederate flag at every sitting congressperson who objected to the electoral college count

I’m amazed how many of those idiots are filming themselves committing crimes. I know we’ve already discussed upthread their backwards thinking - but almost all of them have their cameras out!

have these guys not heard "rap snitch knishes"

this is 100% otm.

25th Amendment puts Pence in charge immediately. Impeachment leaves Trump in place through the process.

It looks like it was teechip.

Cool. Now I just hope I never see any artist/band using them for merch.

People who think this entire thing yesterday was some sort of right-wing failure are fooling themselves. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Sure, some individual dipshits might get identified and suffer minor criminal inconvenience, but this is going to encourage more organized and more violent attempts in the future (i.e. the inauguration), cloaked in the aura of legitimate protest.

xxxp What are the chances the whole chan gets sent up for years?

Tee-Chip site: This campaign was taken down for content reasons

NEW ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT CIRCULATING IN DRAFTS AMONG HOUSE JUDICIARY DEMOCRATS: https://t.co/DqqgDc98FK

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 7, 2021

impeach + 25th amendment imo, pile on, all hands on deck

to be fair I haven't seen many people claim it was a failure, I've seen people claim it was bizarre (which misses the point)

Yeah, the insurrectionists succeeded.

given the events of yesterday i assume that police and national guard are going to outnumber civilians at the inauguration.

25th, impeach, stocks, fire into the sun, etc etc etc all options on the table

the house wields the impeachment, the cabinet squeaks in the direction of the 25th, the wizard reaches for the staff, the rogue pulls out a dagger from a sock fold, i grab my keyboard

She knows there's no success like failure
And that failure's no success at all
-Kurt Marley

Articles of impeachment have already been drafted and are ready for introduction. They were prepared and finalized by @IlhanMN while she was extracted in a secure location, and members are signing on. pic.twitter.com/FJCpmp64OV

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 7, 2021

Gif him up ZS!

xp

Sen. Cruz, you must accept responsibility for how your craven, self-serving actions contributed to the deaths of four people yesterday. And how you fundraised off this riot.

Both you and Senator Hawley must resign. If you do not, the Senate should move for your expulsion. https://t.co/O2m6T59LYP

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 7, 2021

Trump back to business as usual today: Medals of Freedom for golfers

aoc otm

Not gonna hold my breath re Cruz or Hawley though.

i would be more sanguine about the penguin-stuck-in-a-portapotty level of absurdity of yesterday if it weren't for multiple deaths and a lack of consequences for those who engaged in casual violence. This is an invite for a sequel.

I am very tempted to tweet the picture of the dude roaming the Capitol with a Confederate flag at every sitting congressperson who objected to the electoral college count

― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:37 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I see no reason not to do this?

lol remember when she and Cruz were gonna collaborate on a bill

This is an invite for a sequel.

1000x this. I keep being sobered by this thought every few hours.

AOC otm as usual

the house wields the impeachment, the cabinet squeaks in the direction of the 25th, the wizard reaches for the staff, the rogue pulls out a dagger from a sock fold, i grab my keyboard

I greatly appreciated this

Is there any way to punish or even refuse to seat a congressman like Gaetz or Jordon or one of these true-believer wackadoos? Or even Cruz or Hawley, who one presumes knows better but is still being an asshole? Can *they* be impeached?

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:11 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This may have already been posted, but Cori Bush is calling for their expulsion:

I believe the Republican members of Congress who have incited this domestic terror attack through their attempts to overturn the election must face consequences. They have broken their sacred Oath of Office.

I will be introducing a resolution calling for their expulsion. pic.twitter.com/JMTlQ4IfnR

— Congresswoman Cori Bush (@RepCori) January 6, 2021

good

xp i am pretty much always playing solo d&d in my head

It looks like it was teechip.

God, I hope they go after Cruz.

harrowing but worthwhile (and prognosticatory, as it was posted in November) read by Indi Samarajiva, via Tabs:
https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3

Two years ago, I lived through a coup in Sri Lanka. It was stupid. The minority party threw chili powder at everyone in Parliament and took over by farce. Math, however, requires a majority and the courts kicked them out. They gave in. We’d been protesting for weeks and yay, we won.

No.

I didn’t know it at the time, but we had already lost. No one knew — but oh my God, what we lost. The legitimate government came back but it was divided and weak. We were divided and weak. We were vulnerable.

It’s absurd, because the whole thing seems like a clown show. Coups are supposed to be orderly, authoritarian, not this dumb shit. It honestly seems like a grift to bilk supporters out of more money. You can just roll it back, right? Right? No. No no no. Oh God no.

The tragic thing which you do not understand — which you cannot understand — is that you’ve already lost. You cannot know exactly what — that’s the nature of chaos — but know this. You will lose more than you can bear.

We lost our children, playing at church. We lost our friends, sitting down to brunch. Muslims lost their dignity and rights. Your Republicans have set forces into play they cannot possibly understand and certainly cannot control. And they don’t even want to. To them, chaos is a ladder.

This is the point. You have taken an orderly system balancing a whole lot of chaos and fucked with it. I don’t know how it’s going to explode, but I can promise you this. It’s going to explode.

This is precisely why we have elections, and why both sides accept the results. To keep the chaos at bay. The whole point is that you have a regular, ritual fight rather than fighting all the time. Once one side breaks ritual then you’re on the way to civil war. Once you break the rules then chaos ensues. What exactly happens? I don’t know. It’s chaos.

"This is an invite for a sequel."

They're on film exiting the Capitol yelling "next time we're not going to be so peaceful" etc

Vice President Mike Pence formally ascertained Biden's win as the clock struck 3:32 a.m. Thursday morning.

I imagine their next luncheon will be a bit, err, awkward.

xposts Yeah, I remember reading and sharing that at the time. Different situations but still feels very otm.