Tumblr porn ban truly underrated butterfly effect here― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, January 4, 2021 7:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, January 4, 2021 7:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
*ahem* just fyi the ban isn't being as strictly enforced anymore
― ffolkes (map), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
do i have a tumblr beefcake blog i "curate" on my other laptop while i wfh? truly, who can say
― ffolkes (map), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
I was going to say, the “porn” ban happened two owners ago. Who even knows what’s going on with moderation
― mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
one more quote from that article that resonated:
Bean Dad is very simple. It means one thing — your website is poorly run. That’s it.It means that context collapse has gotten so bad and the scale of your trending algorithms are so completely out of whack that a total moron tweeting about beans can create the same level of discussion within your community as the Trump Georgia call. It means that your users are so desperate for your made up internet points that they would consider turning an extremely mundane story about using a can opener into a TWENTY-THREE tweet thread and are also so vicious and insane and bored that they would turn that thread about beans into a national scandal.
It means that context collapse has gotten so bad and the scale of your trending algorithms are so completely out of whack that a total moron tweeting about beans can create the same level of discussion within your community as the Trump Georgia call. It means that your users are so desperate for your made up internet points that they would consider turning an extremely mundane story about using a can opener into a TWENTY-THREE tweet thread and are also so vicious and insane and bored that they would turn that thread about beans into a national scandal.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
I mean... maybe people are so fucking tired of harbingers of societal collapse over which they have zero agency (Trump Georgia call) that they jump on goofy freakshows for kicks?
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
If all the bean dad energy had been converted to hectoring Trump with "have you no decency, sir" we'd finally have him!
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
i think at least part of his point is that twitter has almost no control over its user base and whatever the original purpose of twitter was (brief information updates?), it's now degenerated into "here for the trainwreck"
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
People have always loved irrelevant bullshit, I really don’t understand the hand wringing abt this story ...
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link
otm
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link
Whatever the assholes who founded Twitter intended, it was always going to be an outlet for millions of people to goof off and vent. The idea that it's supposed to be serious is much worse than it being a constant stream of irrelevant bullshit and dick jokes.
Facebook wasn't undermining democracy when boomers were playing Farmville 17 hours a day and insulting each others' recipes.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link
until apps took off on phones it really wasn’t obvious that it’d ever get very big!
like the first year or so of twitter was just small groups of friends tweeting at each other, and at the very beginning it was via sms. you could turn notifications on/off on a per-person basis so you’d get a text when your friend “tweeted”
― mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link
oh, also the main page was literally all tweets on the service
― mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
Before I knew what bean dad was I saw a tweet that was riffing on it like “if my dad made me spend hours opening can of beans when I was a kid...” that in the abstract seemed creative and funny but then seeing other people reference it and finding out that it’s actual thing was way less enjoyable. It’s almost like a novelistic parody of an annoying Twitter topic at this point.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
Tweeting about the Trump call doesn’t necessarily have to be “have you no decency Sir” in the replies as much as just publicly acknowledging “hey this is uniquely fucked up” though arguably that’s just as futile tbf
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link
that substack essay was good
it’s obvious why this sort of shit is good for twitter, it’s basically like the way espn used to use first take, have some moron blowhard like stephen a smith or skip bayless make a headline, get the athlete’s response, turn the whole thing into a news story. it’s printing money and people are too stupid to realize it’s rotting their brains
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
they’re giving stephen a smith his own show, right?
the system works
― mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, January 4, 2021 3:41 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
bean dad was good i enjoyed the bean dad experience, the thing that twitter does thats bad is like letting nazis organize, not goofing on some podcaster
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link
and its not even rotting my brain in fact my brain is becoming larger with every post... like a galaxy
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
and obvs the difference between bean dad and stephen a smith is bean dad is an authentic clown where stephen a is a (brilliant) schtick, twitter gives us the real stuff
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link
—It means that your users are so desperate for your made up internet points that they would consider turning an extremely mundane story about using a can opener into a TWENTY-THREE tweet thread and are also so vicious and insane and bored that they would turn that thread about beans into a national scandal.—
the article is funny cause its infected with the energy it claims to be critiquing, and obvs the bean dad story if true, which its not, is totally freaking psycho and not mundane
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link
i love twitter and have learned an absolute ton following tons of smart and interesting people. also i have no idea wtf “bean dad” is. you lot are insane.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link
you dont know bean dad and yet already love him, strange
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
The pulse that my tweet skipped indeed
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link
_Tumblr porn ban truly underrated butterfly effect here― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, January 4, 2021 7:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink_*ahem* just fyi the ban isn't being as strictly enforced anymore
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
jumped 'ship
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link
I genuinely thought bean dad was good posting, punchy, kept me interested etc. also even if true I don't think it's that bad, sort of feel like if you have kids you should be allowed to do that shit from time to time, not that I have kids but one can imagine being driven to do such zany things
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link
he definitely posted in the exact style of a guest on this american life or w/e
― mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
wrong on both counts sorry kevin your canceled
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
we shd all be more like mr snrub at all times, knowing what's going on is doing no end of bad
― mark s, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, January 4, 2021 4:36 PM (nine minutes ago)
wow harsh well this is why I hope I never have kids
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
mods a canceled is posting
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
no airplay for double-k
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
smh even ILH is turning on me over my bean dad opinions
― k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 bookmarkflaglink
Why would twitter having control over its user base be a good thing?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link
so that said user base doesn't engage in fascist shitstorming? and, if you're twitter, because it means your "website" and "business model" are in jeopardy.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link
online communities without gatekeeping p consistently degrade into trainwrecks and spam, whether or not fascism and incitements to terrorism are involved
― shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i would say that "moderation ≠ control" but a mod forced me to post this
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
iirc ilx was itself created as a petri dish to find out what happenshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTS0A9V5OvI
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
Yeah to me that's a lack of moderation, acting on complaints etc. Different issue from Bean dad going off on one, or ppl going off at him xps
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link
bean dad would want us to moderate ourselves
― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
dude is just saying that twitter is broken and everybody knows it; the emergence of "bean dad" is a late stage symptom, not a rosetta stone to explain why/how
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link
i'm bummed that i can't readily find t ewing's thesis about ILX, can somebody help me out here?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link
There is "guy" on twitter every day in most of its communities xp
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
If Twitter is broken, that assumes it was ever good or at least better, which is highly questionable.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link
forks:https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2501/S1470785308200043
― jaymc, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link
thanks!
ILX threads frequently compare the current state of the community to its earlier days, often unfavourably: the boards now are supposedly less intelligent, or less friendly, or less interesting than they used to be. These threads are rarely conclusive but testify to the level of engagementthe community fosters, and serve as a vent for individual and collective frustrations. They also demonstrate the fact that ILX has evolved a degree of self-awareness – it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link
it thinks of itself as having a unique culture.
ah, lads, 'tis a grand thing to have a unique culture now, isn't it? it fills one's lungs down to their bottom from sheer pride and lightens one's steps all the day long.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link
All the problems of a couple of ordinary dads in this crazy world dont amount to a tin of beans is essentially what we are saying here
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link