And Sleepy Joe Will Get The Credit: US Politics January 2021

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just to be clear, i think pure 50/50 toss up is right, but i don't think it's _insane_ to call the democrats the favorites based on what we know today (they just won the state, they're leading polls from pollsters with known GOP bias, etc.)

obviously winning both would be great for biden's ability to govern but there's another reason why it would be good for the country: if they do lose both of them, that would result in a civil war in the congressional GOP in which one side is 1) completely insane and emotionally unable to back down 2) pretty obviously the reason they lost.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:16 (five years ago)

it sucks that they have to win both, I'm reasonably confident that they'll win at least one. would imagine the results are somewhat correlated though - would be weird if one of the Rs got a full margin of error but the other didn't

honestly have no clue how Trump is gonna effect future elections. obviously he drives turnout up but he also drives turnout against him way up as well, idk how that translates in elections where he's not on the ticket. fwiw Dems have been doing quite well since 2016, I'm not sure that changes now

frogbs, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:18 (five years ago)

wouldn't it be weird if they just won one? who would vote for one of the dems but not the other?

treeship., Monday, 4 January 2021 18:24 (five years ago)

i cannot imagine two D wins in GA unless each is like +7 in the polls prior. obv not because i know anything, i am just so poll-scorched at this point.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:25 (five years ago)

xp one of the democratic candidates is black, so ... many american voters?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:28 (five years ago)

oh yeah

treeship., Monday, 4 January 2021 18:30 (five years ago)

like there's no crosstabs here so it's difficult to be sure, but it looks like 20 ossoff voters said they wouldn't vote in the other race, or 10 ossoff voters actually switched to the GOP:

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/ga-sen-122/

(to be fair, there have been polls in which things are the other way around. the point is, again, both elections will be close, and only takes a couple of people to split tickets or abstain in one race for the outcome to be one senator each.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:33 (five years ago)

that said, i find it easy to imagine more than 2 people in a 1000 changing their mind about whether to vote after watching OANN for past 8 weeks, so i see no reason to think the GOP can afford this nonsense right now.

Honestly wonder whether 2 in 1000 people watch OANN/newsmax

It’s gonna be relentlessly creepy when they start showing those stations in airports and stuff

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:35 (five years ago)

when will we ever visit airports again

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:37 (five years ago)

are those like premium cable stations?

treeship., Monday, 4 January 2021 18:38 (five years ago)

i never heard of them before this year

treeship., Monday, 4 January 2021 18:39 (five years ago)

At first I was like "you've never heard of airports???"

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:42 (five years ago)

"What is this 'flight' you speak of."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:44 (five years ago)

Hoping that when we doing get to fly again on the reg, with no fear, it will be such a big deal that people will dress up for the occasion again.

henry s, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:48 (five years ago)

are those like premium cable stations?

― treeship.

not sure. i visited newsmax.com for the first time in forever, this morning, drawn in by some absolutely crazy headline that i can no longer. and on the side of the screen was a little "WATCH NEWSMAX ONLINE FOR FREE!" streaming video. i kept it on for a few minutes, intending to catch at least a snippet of whatever newsmax tv content is, but all they did was show fox news-style old people ailments commercials

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:49 (five years ago)

I'd encourage people not to pay attention to the polls -- whether the dems have a 25% chance or a 75% chance is essentially meaningless. no one would be surprised by any outcome. they are either gonna win or they're gonna lose, and we're going to find out tomorrow!

k3vin k., Monday, 4 January 2021 18:53 (five years ago)

Or in 7-10 days, after the recounts.

henry s, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:54 (five years ago)

i would also encourage people not to read my posts tbf xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:54 (five years ago)

I switched to AT+T in November. My new package has OAN.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:56 (five years ago)

Problems problems

Cleta Mitchell's law firm says it's "concerned" she was on Trump's call and "are working to understand her involvement more thoroughly."

— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) January 4, 2021

Just interviewed @GaSecofState Brad Raffensperger. He says there was no privacy agreement & @realDonaldTrump broke any expectation of privacy with his tweet falsely describing the call. Details & video shortly. pic.twitter.com/aqgXxKi6Yk

— Brendan Keefe (@BrendanKeefe) January 4, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:56 (five years ago)

What a week it’s already been.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:04 (five years ago)

Every day is Friday now

cilantro vs. wade (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:09 (five years ago)

http://blogs.voanews.com/student-union/files/2011/07/RebeccaBlack230.jpg

frogbs, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:10 (five years ago)

Wonder how things are going to work without him as an obvious catalyst driving response. Guess he'll be around in the background unless he somehow isn't. & wonder how that could happen since if he died right now he'd just be a martyr of sorts

Stevolende, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:16 (five years ago)

trump that is

Stevolende, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:17 (five years ago)

Every day is like Friday
Every day is wild and cray-cray

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:17 (five years ago)

lmao

JUST IN: Another brutal opinion dismissing suit seeking to overturn 2020 election results. Argument 'lies somewhere between a willful misreading of the Constitution and fantasy,' Judge James Boasberg writes. Also threatens to refer counsel for discipline. https://t.co/CHvM7k7MyN

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) January 4, 2021

In addition to being filedon behalf of Plaintiffs without standing and (at least as to the state Defendants) in the wrong courtand with no effort to even serve their adversaries, the suit rests on a fundamental and obvious misreading of the Constitution.
...
Yet even that may be letting Plaintiffs off the hook too lightly. Their failure to make any effort to serve or formally notify any Defendant—even after reminder by the Court in its Minute Order—renders it difficult to believe that the suit is meant seriously. Courts are not instruments through which parties engage in such gamesmanship or symbolic political gestures.As a result, at the conclusion of this litigation, theCourt will determine whether to issue an order to show cause why this matter should not be referred to its Committee on Grievances for potential discipline of Plaintiffs’ counsel.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:17 (five years ago)

Judges: not amused.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:27 (five years ago)

"potential discipline"

NO. DISCIPLINE AND PUNISH

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:29 (five years ago)

Billy from Silent Night, Deadly Night for Prez

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:48 (five years ago)

Are these lawsuits just gonna keep getting filed forever even once Biden is president?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:50 (five years ago)

I guess I can answer my own question: "as long as they can get people to give them money to file lawsuits, 25% of which goes to fund the lawsuits and 75% into a Trump loyalist's pocket, they'll keep filing lawsuits."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:51 (five years ago)

sToP tHe sTeAl iF YoU lOvE oUr gReAT uNiTed sTaEtES

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:55 (five years ago)

I wish I could type like that.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:56 (five years ago)

Byron couldn’t have put it more graciously.

On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:57 (five years ago)

sToP tHe sTeAl iF YoU lOvE oUr gReAT uNiTed sTaEtES

― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Monday, January 4, 2021 2:55 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I wish I could type like that.

― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 4, 2021 2:56 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

may i draw your attention to playboi carti's twitter?

shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:59 (five years ago)

Seven House Republicans oppose objecting to the electoral votes, and you'll never guess why!

NEW: 7 House Republicans OPPOSE the effort to object to the Electoral College:

- Thomas Massie (Ky.)
- Ken Buck (Colo.)
- Kelly Armstrong (N.D.)
- Mike Gallagher (Wisc.)
- Nancy Mace (S.C.)
- Tom McClintock (Calif.)
- Chip Roy (Tex.)

"We must respect states' authority here." pic.twitter.com/ZolkTw5xwX

— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) January 3, 2021

"From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes - based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election - we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024."

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:07 (five years ago)

may i draw your attention to playboi carti's twitter?

― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili),

Nah. He pays people to fuck with caps-lock.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:10 (five years ago)

Trump called him "Lying Ted," insulted his wife's appearance and implied that his father killed JFK... and received nothing but fawning loyalty in return.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:15 (five years ago)

"From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes - based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election - we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024."

Saying the quiet part loud in official statements!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:16 (five years ago)

Wow @ republicans openly admitting that they are unelectable via above-board means.

Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:20 (five years ago)

lol Georgia elections official Gabriel Sterling regarding the voting machine parts "that's not a real thing, i don't even know what that means or how to explain that"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:28 (five years ago)

Wow @ republicans openly admitting that they are unelectable via above-board means.

How is following the (antiquated, mostly nonsensical) rules of the system not "above-board"?

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:40 (five years ago)

Trump called him "Lying Ted," insulted his wife's appearance and implied that his father killed JFK... and received nothing but fawning loyalty in return.

It's not loyalty, it's a desperate bid to be loved by the MAGA hordes. (Which will fail when a SEC coach who resigned under a cloud of scandal calls him a pussy in the first GOP debate of 2023.)

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:41 (five years ago)

yeah I don't believe for a second that Cruz or Graham or any of those guys actually like Trump at all or will want to be seen with him once he's out of office. Jordan, Nunes, and Gaetz on the other hand...

frogbs, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:45 (five years ago)

Personally I am wholly uninterested in whether Republicans are tolerating Trump pissing in their faces because they think it has long-term electoral benefits or actively soliciting it because they are irrevocably addicted to being piss pigs

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:58 (five years ago)

I'm just gonna go ahead and reconfigure GOP into 'Gaggle of PissPigs' inside my own head, plz feel free to join me

Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:01 (five years ago)

Now I’m imagining a bunch of Republicans in straw hats at the 2024 convention desultorily dancing to “hot piss” by the yellow river boys

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:10 (five years ago)

Look, what I do on the weekends has nothing to do with these fascist fucks, please do not get it twisted.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:20 (five years ago)

old grey mare she aint what she used to be

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:30 (five years ago)


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