god i'm so glad big don abernathy is a regular poster now
― ffolkes (map), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
two things can be true xp
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
what would we do without your input big don
split other hairs and not your hairs, that's what
― ffolkes (map), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
Daou is obviously not to be trusted, he turned left after the failure of the fact check thing and then not having his loyalty to Clinton repaid.
But his face turn is hilarious and since he has no power in the world, and no one laughing at the idea of Chairman Daou has any power in the world - who fuckin' cares?
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
yes, he's fundamentally a funny figure. his house music is not bad too.
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Yeah that’s true
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
"Grifter" seems to mean something like "social media influencer for politics" now. Given how con-artist-like or at least -adjacent other kinds of influencers are, I can mostly forgive how broad the term has become, even though it does imply people are cashing in on twitter or podcasting to a degree that is probably literally impossible.
― rob, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
imo "grifter" means you are materially benefitting from a genuinely outsized, possibly fraudulent rep and not from doing an actual thing. eric garland for instance I happily call a grifter because he leveraged #resistance paranoia into (possibly?) lucrative paywalled content despite making no sense ever
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
peter daou's album of "piano elegies for america" currently stands at 275 views so I suspect if he is attempting a grift he is v v bad at it
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
I guess seeing it applied to (imo) lavishly overpaid consultants that seem to only fail upwards doesn’t really bother melike maybe Neera doesn’t make much more than a higher ranking associate at a Big Law firm (also overpaid), but those folks have to actually produce, bill ~2k hours etc. and I wouldn’t even begrudge them these salaries if they were at the least out pushing for genuine improvements in the lives of the people who have to bring them their DoorDash and handle their Amazon packages. during a gd pandemic.
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
The Mothership/Neera/think tank grifter call comes down to whether or not you think their goal is to win elections and make policy, or if their goal is essentially no different from any other marketing/PR firm (ie to skim money off the top) regardless of results.
imo Mothership: grifters, Neera: not grifter, just a person with shitty politics but she does appear to want to govern
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link
Sure dude
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Xpost
fair pointxp
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
you got it dude Don
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
This Mothership? https://mothershipstrategies.com/
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
Yes, they're the people behind the constant IF YOU DON'T SEND ME $5 RIGHT NOW MY DOG WILL BE KILLED fundraising e-mails.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
Can their "scare old people into giving money" tactic work possibly as well it does for Trumpers? I hope not honestly
― Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
It's extremely effective at getting people to donate AFAICT.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
Less effective at winning races - they made their name raking in the cash for 2017 Ossoff
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
did they do McGrath bc wowowowow
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
people who thought Daou wasn’t on the level before but he is now
I mean, the job might have been a grift on society but the sentiments seemed genuine in the past? I have no real way of gauging it, and maybe it's all posturing in search of a job or increased clout. But it's the same vague hollering into the void of twitter. I did not mean to imply that he was a reliable source of information or that his tweeting was worse then than now, just that he's pivoted.
and I think sic's link was about the video clip, not that it was Daou tweeting it. even a dude like Daou can spot a banana
― mh, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
It doesn’t matter what his link was about. Conversation shifted in ways that were beyond my control and it will probably happen again.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
You're the one who shifted it by bringing up grifting!
― mh, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link
I remembered it being more of a fluid collectively driven and gradual conversational shift but maybe your right.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
you’re
A Mothership email
lol pic.twitter.com/E3xEb8e3Bg— da jdpon joker (@Hegelbon) December 23, 2020
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
yeah Daou is a clown but it was too late at night to bother looking for another source on the clip
Verrit was his hilarious "a numerical code to prove memes are true" project btw
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
also tbh I do feel happy for him that he saw through the emptiness of Sorkin centrism, even if he keeps being the same level of teethgrindingly earnest about actually positive pro-human policies. so if the thread drift came from gabbo aiming to clown me, fair enough
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link
small rustled jimmies
― mh, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
“Sorkin Centrism”
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link
That should be a thing we don’t say.
I guess if you don't say it then we won't be
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:59 (three years ago) link
Dianne Feinstein has filed with the FEC to seek re-election until 2030, when she will be 96.
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 11:09 (three years ago) link
Uh
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link
Barbara, come get your girl
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link
file and forget
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
Don't really know anything beyond this tweet, but FWIW:
Even candidates that literally say I AM NOT RUNNING AGAIN file this paperwork, it has to do with transferring campaign money around https://t.co/gplOW9cF2U— metal dot txt (@metaltxt) January 13, 2021
― jaymc, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link
Yeah, the amount of the national Democratic Party infrastructure is just consultancy grift and media buys to their friends isn’t really understood by most people, especially not by those who are paid to comment on them on air
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
thanks, this also sucks!
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link
Say what you will about the Democrats, at least they're all going to vote for a second time to impeach and convict Donald J. Trump. Who else is going to do this public service on our behalf? The Republicans?
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
Reporting today says Biden picks Jaime Harrison as DNC chair, but I don't get it -- I thought DNC chair was a thing there was an election for, not a thing the President picks, am I confused?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I've been confused about that, too.
Here's what the NYT said:
"Incoming presidents traditionally take control of the party committees, installing their own chair and staffers. Former President Barack Obama chose to try to establish his own political operation outside of the committee, a decision that many D.N.C. members say damaged state parties and led to years of dysfunction at the national level. Far more of a party institutionalist, Mr. Biden has promised to rebuild state parties and deepen investments in the committee."
So, I guess there was a DNC election in 2017 because there wasn't a Democratic president in the White House?
― jaymc, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
Also, Wikipedia says that the 2017 election was the first contested DNC race since 1985.
― jaymc, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
The general way it works is that the DNC is notionally the president’s operation when a democrat is in office. They set the national direction for the party, etc.
Obama shunned the DNC, which might have been OK for him but was disastrous for all the things the DNC is supposed to do. Debbie Wasserman Schultz arguably tanked the whole thing, and all he had to do to was wave his hand and she’d have been replaced
There would have been both pros and cons to him just installing a portion of his Obama for America staff directly in the DNC office, but in my opinion... it would have been a better idea than pretending he was independent of their operation
― mh, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
Anyone have a take on Schumer's proposed "power sharing agreement" with the GOP? Left friends already cringing, probably not a bad bet that they are right to, but just wondering if this is some kind of necessary move to avoid 100% deadlock.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link
Seems similar to what the Senate did in 2001 when there was also a 50-50 tie (for a few months, anyway, until Jim Jeffords switched parties)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:31 (three years ago) link
Since ties in the committees will still send bills to the floor, having equal members doesn't seem like a big deal.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link