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What is so Max about HBOMax, does it contain like creatine or something

Speaking of which, is it just me, or does HBO Max show up as plain old HBO in Roku? Which I'm sure is the same thing, but man does this company have a branding issue. HBO, HBO Now, HBO Go, HBO Max. Are they just now HBO again?

No it's HBO Max still. I think you might need to add the HBO Max for some older Roku devices. As I understand it, not all of them auto updated.

Of the ones I don't subscribe to, the services Y for which I reasonably often notice "I'd watch X if I had Y" are Shudder and STARZ.

The one I subscribe to that I never watch anything on is Amazon Prime Video.

you should watch Patriot

For some reason, whenever I see mention of Patriot, I conflate that awful 2000 Mel Gibson movie with that AMC show about Revolution era spies.

you should watch Patriot

― na (NA), Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:53 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

1000x yes

and yeah man did they tank it with that awful title

My favorite show of the past many years

i downloaded epix specifically to watch perpetual grace ltd. specifically bc it's the same creator and much of the same cast as patriot but i still haven't gotten around to actually watching it

I watched the first ep I think and didn't follow through, maybe my expectations were too high...it didn't seem bad but didn't get its hooks into me like Patriot

Opening theme
"Train Song" by Vashti Bunyan (season 1)
"Sure Shot" by Beastie Boys (season 2)

That's a... change in tone.

incredible soundtrack both seasons

Thirding the recommendation for Patriot. Fantastic idiosyncratic show with a search proof name. It's almost like they didn't want anyone to find it.

I can't figure out what show you guys are talking about or what service it's on

OANN+

you are mean

ok i found it (using the clue of perpetual grace!)

Patriot is on Amazon Prime. One unexpected quality -- fair bit of dark humor.

Does Patriot have a conclusion, is does it end on a never-to-be-resolved cliffhanger?

kind of in between ... it set up a possible third season that didn't happen but it's not really cliffhanger either

i think netflix are profitable but cashflow negative due to the upfront capital costs of chasing subscriptions in new markets,

will be interesting to see if coronavirus changes this approach at all - apparently subscriptions are way up with everyone stuck at home, but obv they haven't been able to keep making new series in most markets

(to the point of cancelling Glow entirely just so they didn't have to pay to keep the sets in storage)

okay, i'll add Patriot to my backlog. Boy it really does not look good! I wouldn't watch this if you guys weren't so avid about it!

top of the backlog!

(to the point of cancelling Glow entirely just so they didn't have to pay to keep the sets in storage)

This decision really frustrated me, Glow was really starting to grow into something really special and got better with each successive season. I really don't want this to become the norm for streaming services to cut the legs off under every single show before it can grow organically or find solid footing.

What's crazy is that until relatively recently, and for sure still with lots of network shows, a single season of a single show might have as many episodes as two (or even three) seasons of a Netflix show. NCIS, for example, had 20 episodes in 2019, and usually 24 the seasons before that. To date something like 350 episodes of a show I've never seen and never will see. Or, like, even a cult show like Buffy all those years ago, 22 episodes a season. I suppose the difference is that a lot of these streamed shows are closer to movies in terms of production/look/promotion etc., but I have no idea what the actual budget of something like Glow, or Stranger Things or whatever is. I assume a lot more than that of NCIS.

Glow was really starting to grow into something really special and got better with each successive season. I really don't want this to become the norm for streaming services to cut the legs off under every single show before it can grow organically

Dunno if it'll make things worse or better for you, but S4 was already written as a final season due to Netflix calling time on it (and had started shooting).

Yeah, I was aware of that, which made it seem like an even weirder decision to can it when they did.

Hulu is jacking up their "live TV with no ads" package to $71 a month, which is not appreciably less than cable any more but notably less reliable. If I didn't have to deal with Time Warner, I would consider switching back for the duration of the NBA season. I might anyway!

Jeez, what is that up from?

$61. Not a small leap!

Time Warner is $45 a month for the same package! Shit's gotten weird.

What? Damn Optimum is way higher than that

is there a way in the US to receive digital stations over the air i.e. with an antenna?

Time Warner=Spectrum and their internet/cable package is around $110 with fees
https://www.spectrum.com/packages

you can get network signals via antenna but not channels like TNT or ESPN of course... they get you with sports!

"This decision really frustrated me, Glow was really starting to grow into something really special and got better with each successive season. I really don't want this to become the norm for streaming services to cut the legs off under every single show before it can grow organically or find solid footing."

they did this with Teenage Bounty Hunters too and it was bewildering to me. The show had just debuted and got basically unanimous accolades. And they just canned it. With a fucking cliffhanger ending.

I never started watching that, but I heard the same complaints. Baffling to cancel it after a single season.

is there a way in the US to receive digital stations over the air i.e. with an antenna?

I have a digital antenna. Networks, some small channels that show all crime procedurals all day, or all Westerns (movies and TV shows), some home shopping channels, etc., etc. No sports channels, which is frankly a giant plus.

it was bewildering to me

the answer will be that not enough people watched it.

unperson yeah that's what i'm talking about. are there any rolling news channels i.e. CNN? does it compare to basic cable at all? i do like sports but frankly that setup plus i.e. MLB.tv + NBA.com would cover pretty much anything i would want from live tv

Nba season pass sadly does not include games that are nationally televised

No, none of the news channels are on antenna. The antenna channels (besides the major networks) mostly show reruns of shows from the 70s

are the audiences for free-to-air channels really so small that nobody wants to jump in on it? seems weird.

I've never lived anywhere that I could reliably get a signal for more than one or two OTA channels - if I owned a house and wanted to install a rooftop antenna it might be feasible.

There's https://www.locast.org/ for free local TV streaming but I haven't really looked into it.

are the audiences for free-to-air channels really so small

CNN more than doubled their usual average ratings during November's election coverage, passing a million viewers. Network hit shows still get 5-8 million, and for news commentary, eg Dateline NBC gets over 3 million.

24 hour news costs a lot more to produce than repeats of cowboy shows do to air, and if CNN were to duplicate their coverage on a free channel, it would eradicate their value as a pay channel.

doubled

(this might be misleading: CNN's doubling took them to nearly 1.8 million, not eg 1.01 million - compared to MSNBC's election-boosted ratings of 1.5, and Fox, less boosted, of 1.9)

alright, so they'd lose cable audience but presumably gain the same amount OTA? which they can sell advertising against? i guess it's not that simple. but in the UK there are tons of OTA channels. who haven't pulled their Freeview signals in favour of being bundled in e.g. Sky or Virgin.

Dunno where "I Hate Suzie" originated (I assume BBCx?), but it's on HBO Max and the first episode was pretty good.

FPd you for racism

i managed four episodes of I Hate Suzie and tapped out. I wanted to like it!

11.22.63 appears to be leaving out the best parts of the book