Stratospheric albedo engineering is a much harder problem. Only in the Arctic/Antarctic is the tropopause at a low enough elevation for commercial jets to deposit sulfates, and while that may help with sea-ice loss/Arctic amplification, the places that will want geoengineering later this century are the nations at tropical latitudes, as they'll be starving. I'm sure places like India and Brazil are looking at papaers like this one for their gameplan.
― A Like Supreme (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
Called it đ https://t.co/e1kSLeTahE— Ketan Joshi (@KetanJ0) December 15, 2020
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:07 (three years ago) link
DID YOU KNOW a girl from the sunrise movement in philly was a contestant on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? This is what she had to say about driving: https://t.co/faA5cPOst7 pic.twitter.com/kH1zqeQ40k— N I C đ¨ L E (@nicoleamurray) December 16, 2020
― âBigâ Don Abernathy, Thursday, 17 December 2020 09:00 (three years ago) link
She's right? If that's supposed to be a gotcha, it's pretty weak bullshit
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
I don't think that was supposed to be a gotcha, it think it's just a boost for a smart way to talk about climate change - putting the focus on the largest companies who generate GHGs, rather than the individual actions of billions of people, all in different socioeconomic circumstances.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link
Karl, the rest of the thread makes it clearly a gotcha
― loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
haha, that's sad, on my part. I actually did read more of that thread, and even retweeted the little cartoon she did a few posts later. i guess what's confusing me is that the way the sunrise movement person who happened to be on queer eye talked about climate change strikes me as a reasonable way to talk to some people about climate. you use different messages for different people. also, the environmental movements have spent 60+ years trying to get people to think about personal consumption choices. i am all for that, and i am all for personal responsibility and try to practice it myself to the degree that i can. but regardless, doing that alone has been a failure. so i actually think it's smart to focus on the producers of GHG, even though obviously we all as consumers we have a role to play as well.
honestly, though, i am having a lot of trouble these days understanding what people are actually saying or what they mean. especially when sarcasm is involved. when i point a finger at other people there are three pointing right back at me, i mean, i spend 90% of my ilx time playing a character that isn't me (there is no me), and i have willingly confused people here literally hundreds of times in the pursuit of making myself laugh, which is fucking crazy. so yeah, 3 fingers back at me. but still, the pointer finger pointing, outwards, at the world
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
also, this show is sponsored by a car company, w/c is trying to sell cars, a transportation system which is unsustainable. "driving is fine, actually," is a really good slogan for the fossil fuel industry which would love to sell you more gas.— N I C đ¨ L E (@nicoleamurray) December 17, 2020
― âBigâ Don Abernathy, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
also, not a criticism of big don or good ol' @nicole for posting that, but pulling up an old episode of queer eye which includes a person that's affiliated with an environmental org doesn't really...mean anything? who is that girl? is she the leader of the philly chapter? or is she assistant vice-treasurer? are activists expected to be greta thunberg in all contexts and always get the messaging perfect for nicole?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
eh, it's a good conversation to have (one i've had a million times), but i can't get worked up over a rando activist not speaking perfectly on a tv show that isn't about the environment. if the goal is to capture a moment of hypocrisy in the environmental movement (she's on a show that is sponsored by a car company, telling people it's ok to drive!) then great, i have a new idea for a massively popular social media account where i will capture moments of hypocrisy in the environmental movement. each day will start out with an examination of how i myself am hypocritical. then i will get up and walk into my kitchen and capture the hypocrisy in my purchasing decisions. then i'll get on ilx and say something that wasn't perfect, and i'll call that out. then i'll walk outside and capture all the hypocrisy, everywhere, all around us, on every single hectare in the country. even the squirrels in the deepest woods will be interrogated, and they are far from innocent
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
i just hope there aren't any other environmental activists who haven't said the right thing according to everyone else
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
Itâs indicative of how way too broadly and readily people still will reference that â100 corporations are responsible for it allâ talking point from an article a few years back. Even putting aside the fact that some of those companies are state owned itâs probably bad to eliminate consumers from the dynamic.
― âBigâ Don Abernathy, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
yeah, i don't know. it still seems ridiculous to me. don't get me wrong, i'm not crying too much for this rando that got picked on by another rando named nicole, but i'm imagining having that same level of scrutiny from some internet rando named @nicole, honed in on me, and then spread across the world to conversations like this, and how angry i would be. like, i think if nicole picked on me for not being perfect in my messaging i'd be tempted to tell her to fuck off for life.
and all of ^that^ x10000000 when the "criticism" is actually very subjective and not at all clearly correct
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
has nicole ever spoken imperfectly? maybe she should be the focus of a viral tweet
since every week i must bring up my parents in an unrelated context, i think:
- when i repeatedly called out my dad for being a wannabe neo-eugenicist, a bigot, a homophobe and an active promoter of hatred against LGBT+, as well as dangerously dumb, hypocritical evangelo-fascist (a term carefully applied, as my dad believes that bernie sanders is an "islamofascist", his only defense was "you should think about not being so hard on me". i did think about that, and decided yes, i should be very hard on him. incredibly hard. - later, it made me think about who i should NOT be hard on. i should not be hard on people whose hearts are in the right place, who are trying to do the right thing, who are still trying to learn.
that doesn't mean we shouldn't criticize language or messaging or tactics or whatever, but the whole twitter call-out thing gets especially gross when applied against true randos who are on the right side. i mean, go for it, but make sure you spend the other 99.5% of the time calling out the people and organizations and systemic infrastructure that are actually the problem
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
i think a version of this has probably already played out on the sanders/biden threads, re: the value of intra-left squabbling, so i guess i'm not saying anything useful. it would just be cool if @nicole would go take a shit on exxon instead
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
Yeah I see what youâre saying, I think thatâs fair. Especially since the follow up posts go into the showâs corporate sponsorship. The producers role and editing decisions is probably where the initial focus should probably be if weâre criticizing the highlighting of a message to a broad audience like that.
― âBigâ Don Abernathy, Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
yeah, definitely. who knows what the activist said before or after that clip that was edited out. if you hung out with me all day, you'd get 100 different "of course if there was better investment in public transport and smart city planning, we wouldn't have to be so reliant on cars still" and "yeah, they should hold a 'top 70 companies' party and then send that party to the bottom of the ocean lol" soundbites which would never be aired on whatever network owns queer eye. but you might also catch a couple sentences where i say something like @nicole's tweet above, something that feels good and comforting to the everyday person watching the show who isn't anti-environment, exactly, while also allowing the activist to get a "message" across that is vague enough to make it through network censors looking to scrub anti-corporate messages.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
Just to clarify that I think the queer eye person was right and Nicole is wrong.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't think about consumer choices, but tbf, it seems pretty absurd and cruel to blame people who are just trying to survive for their own sad fates that will be the result of catastrophic climate change.
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Saturday, 19 December 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
No Nicole is right in the sense that the â100 corporations are entirely responsible for itâ talking point is dumb.
― âBigâ Don Abernathy, Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
God you're such a tiresome waste of fucking space.
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
"objective reality is dumb because I want to shift blame from corporations onto consumers" gtfoh with that absolute bullshit
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
"X corporations" is the 99% vs 1% of climate change iow it's not totally true but it's a slogan not an analysis. it's at least better than calling for more ethical consumerism. of course the real problem is capitalism but people turn off as soon as you say that
what is the point about some of the companies being state owned supposed to mean?
― Left, Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
we did it!
"The rate of ice loss is now in line with the worst-case scenarios of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the worldâs leading authority on the climate." https://t.co/lq1IqMdW0e— Jason Hickel (@jasonhickel) January 25, 2021
― satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
lol đ we're đ all đ gonna đ die
― shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link
The seven hottest years on record are the last seven years.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link
This is a really powerful article about two of my college singing friends:
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-climate-crisis-is-worse-than-you-can-imagine-heres-what-happens-if-you-try
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link
Good article - also apparently your college friends live a couple miles away from me.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
And me!
― nickn, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link
The price of solar electricity has dropped 89% in 10 yearsIn 2009, building a new solar farm was 223% more expensive than building a new coal plant. Now, itâs flipped.
In 2009, building a new solar farm was 223% more expensive than building a new coal plant. Now, itâs flipped.
― shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 12 February 2021 05:49 (three years ago) link
then again
CHEVRON OIL SPILL: State emergency officials say a pipeline containing a mixture of oil and gasoline is leaking 5 gallons a minute into the San Francisco Bay. #oilspill https://t.co/B3osX1POEN pic.twitter.com/pkJ5W90dzM— ABC7 News (@abc7newsbayarea) February 10, 2021
― shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 12 February 2021 06:53 (three years ago) link
not good, of course. was just looking up BP Horizon, and i believe it came out to around 1000 gallons per second, for the 5 months before the leak was first sealed.
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
sorry 1000 gallons/minute, i meant, not per second. but yeah, it's crazy to look at what 5 gallons/minute does and imagine the scale of BP Deep Horizon
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
love 2 be in the little poo-colored river that is "normal temps"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuXj0cYXcAYwAaI?format=jpg&name=small
― lord of the ting tings (map), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
A gas tanker & icebreaker made it from China to Yamal in the 1st transit of the Northern Sea Route in February, "confirming that year-round safe navigation is possible," Russia says. There's no multi-year ice left there. @BarentsNews https://t.co/57fCekHYZL pic.twitter.com/PgO45fjN9V— Alec Luhn (@ASLuhn) February 21, 2021
Reminder that oil companies have been preparing for this moment, redesigning tankers, drilling equipment, and offshore platforms for a melting Arctic since the 1970s. A quick thread of their patents: https://t.co/qMX2Vls7BI— Amy Westervelt (@amywestervelt) February 21, 2021
― stilt in the wings (sic), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 08:35 (three years ago) link
finding a lot of stuff about a "new cold war" with china and maybe russia over these resources... all expansion / extraction already being justified because the other guys are doing it anyway and we can't be outcompeted (i can imagine environmental or human rights arguments being brought in for audiences less receptive to that cynicism)
not as much stuff about this as colonialism although some pro-exploitaion types are explicitly calling it a frontier
― Towards a Britain-Free Planet (Left), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 09:09 (three years ago) link
so when is that massive wave of ecoterrorism they were fearmongering about for decades going to kick in, because it will but it's very late
― Towards a Britain-Free Planet (Left), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 09:11 (three years ago) link
Australia has adjusted emissions records to reflect (some of) the greater warming impact of methane, a potent greenhouse gas. It added the equivalent of an extra six months' worth of national CO2 emissions to the accounts overnight. https://t.co/lsCSG8GSc5— Adam Morton (@adamlmorton) February 26, 2021
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Saturday, 27 February 2021 07:21 (three years ago) link
https://everestpipkin.medium.com/but-the-environmental-issues-with-cryptoart-1128ef72e6a3
lol we're all going to die
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Thursday, 4 March 2021 09:14 (three years ago) link
The gulf stream might.... be in trouble. One of those very cool+snazzy web articles from the NYTimes here:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/03/02/climate/atlantic-ocean-climate-change.html
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 March 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link
You know that free-floating sense that multinational corporations are above the law, able to buy their way out of consequences for even the most blatant, heinous crimes? There's a (nearly) unbelievable, highly concrete example of it underway right at this moment.1/ pic.twitter.com/KnIhSsTuwc— Cory Doctorow (@doctorow) March 19, 2021
― map ca. 1890 (map), Friday, 19 March 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link
that story deserves to be told loudly and repeatedly to the entire country
the judge (appointed by Bill Clinton in 1994) should be removed
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 March 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link
season 5 of Drilled gets into Ecuador vs. Chevron. Worth a listen if you've been reading this thread.https://www.criticalfrequency.org/drilled
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 19 March 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link
September 2019 - March 2020: much of the east coast of Australia is on fire, including the worst bushfire in NSW's history
March 20, 2021: The east coast is hit with heavy rains, NSW experiences the worst floods in 50 years.
March 21, 2021: The east coast is hit with heavy rains, NSW experiences the worst floods in 60 years.
A warmer atmosphere can hold approx 7% more water for every degree of warming, so maybe if the government appoints coal and gas CEOs to manage the recovery efforts again, we can stop having to wait around so long between these records.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 22 March 2021 06:04 (three years ago) link
To be fair the coal and gas CEOs are pretty busy right now lobbying the EU to accept nuclear, CCS and gas as sustainable options. Thereâs only so much they can do.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 22 March 2021 08:08 (three years ago) link
The recommendation is appreciated, any other seasons or episodes you could highlight?
― locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
Australian billionaires doubled their wealth during Covid-19
Andrew Forrest, chair of Fortescue Metals Group, came in second. He also more than doubled his wealth, from $13.06 billion to $29.61 billion.
Yerman here acknowledged in 2011 that his company had never paid tax, while successfully campaigning to have a mining-specific Minerals Resource Rent Tax struck down on the grounds that it was "a mad dog's breakfast."
Then came Clive Palmer, whose company Mineralogy is big in iron ore. The minerâs net worth increased in similar proportion to that of Rinehart and Forrest, from $4.5 billion to $9.76 billion.Thatâs about 60 times what Palmer spent on the 2019 election. After that election Palmer claimed â credibly â that his intervention ensured the return of the Morrison government, and he pronounced his $83 million investment in the political process money well spent. It was, after all, less than a weekâs income for him.
Thatâs about 60 times what Palmer spent on the 2019 election. After that election Palmer claimed â credibly â that his intervention ensured the return of the Morrison government, and he pronounced his $83 million investment in the political process money well spent. It was, after all, less than a weekâs income for him.
This dude previously got himself elected as an MP for one term (by 53 votes, after accusing the entire electoral system of being corrupt, calling a recount when he'd lost by 7, and filing legal challenges against votes received by his opponent). He only attended Parliament about 25 days a year, went seven months without visiting the electorate he claimed to live in, and largely spent his term tweeting his own improvised poems and complaints about being on a diet.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 29 March 2021 05:52 (three years ago) link
A new report highlights that even if the worldâs governments meet their current Paris pledges on time, Earth is likely to reach average global surface temperatures of 3°C above the pre-industrial period during this century, with catastrophic consequences.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link
The Great Barrier Reef is all but doomed, with between 70 and 99 per cent of corals set for destruction unless immediate âtransformative actionâ is taken to reverse global warming..The Australian Academy of Science says the more ambitious target of the Paris Climate Agreement of keeping global warming to 1.5 degrees has now slipped out of reach and is âvirtually impossibleâ.
The Australian Academy of Science says the more ambitious target of the Paris Climate Agreement of keeping global warming to 1.5 degrees has now slipped out of reach and is âvirtually impossibleâ.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
.@VP Kamala Harris: "For years and generations, wars have been fought over oil. In a short matter of time, they will be fought over water." pic.twitter.com/88pWzvbmeA— The Hill (@thehill) April 7, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 April 2021 08:20 (three years ago) link