British Right-Wing Pundits

Lots of adult human females whinging in the mentions on that tweet, obvs.

She has undeleted her twitter and posted a video of some IDF soldiers dancing

Sea and Sardinia is great. I like a bunch of his poetry too. The novels are exhausting.

Burchill can fuck off.

i think... i quite like some of dhl's novels. Like is perhaps the wrong word. But the conversation has made me want to revisit The Rainbow and Sons and Lovers, which istr i found intersting at the time.

they were very fighty! (some of the fights song since won of course -- porn now compulsory -- but possibly not all!)

those fights in full (except for the porn):
"i am slim and fey and sexy and ginger and working class and yet i am also way smarter than any of you so-called bloomsbury types who want to pet me and fuck me"

(i guess that includes some of the porn)

Lorks, looks like JB is going full Linehan.

At least the awful, awful Linehan created works of genius before going full shithead

JB, who is?

Julie Burchill, I’d guess.

My jaw has just hit the floor.

The Spectator’s Christmas edition contains this poem by Julie Burchill about Priti Patel; the rhyming is criminal, the intent malevolent. pic.twitter.com/UmONzBwMQl

— Mic O’Holy Wright 🏳️‍🌈🌋🏴‍☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) December 28, 2020

jesus, mary and jiminy fucking cricket!

BOAK

I was expecting it to be awful, still wasn't at all prepared for that.

i think this article that my phone wants me to read is also in the christmas one, surely a bumper issue of jfc no:

‘You can’t have opinions any more’: Rick Wakeman interviewed by Rod Liddle

If I were Rick Wakeman, I'd be glad no-one was allowed opinions.

I'm pretty sure Rick does, in fact, express many of his opinions in said article.

this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say

it obviously has the effect of silencing kinds of speech that are accused of being silencing of the kinds of speech favoured by the telling it like it is crowd, but they seem to think this kind of preemptive self victimisation is an essential part of telling it like it is

this cancel culture thing we keep hearing about... how do we make it happen?

I fully intend to ask people like that if they’re whinging about cancellation in advance of some major plan to say something insensitive in public.

it might have worked a treat for Julie. I don't know how publishing works but I presume she a got an advance on her book before it was cancelled. And now maybe she'll get another one! Or if not it's increased her profile much more than that execrable brexit play did. Lol I can remember when she was bigging up Patrick Marber as the greatest living UK playwright, around the time of Closer I think. For some ridiculous reason that play is on my bookshelf, my partner bought it at some point and when I was having a rubbish clear-out she wouldn't let me throw it in the burner where it belongs!

dark lols at me typing "cancer culture" and just spotting it before I hit submit btw

The problem I had with Closer was that every character was such an unbearable self-absorbed twat that it was hard to care about any of them, not surprised that JB identifies with it.

^^

nailed it!

xxp

your typing/editing skills are still much better than mine, Onimo. I miss out words all the time and often even if I check before I post I mentally add them when they aren't there!

one dialogue segment of Closer that Julie highlighted as classic playwright greatness was some corny as fuck line about how the human heart looks like a clenched fist... （´＊｀）

He was always good on "Knowing Me, Knowing You" though.

true yeah.. and also as the dim-witted reporter Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan on the day today!

Very much so!

Only saw it once, but iirc this was the last of Marber being funny as a writer or performer: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cbyjp

this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say

It was already mainstream in the 80s when I was a teen, eg media mockery of the "loony left", the GLC giving grants to black lesbian pottery groups, schoolchildren being made to sing Baa-Baa Green Sheep, "You can't call them 'manholes' now, you have to say 'person holes'", "right-on" alternative comedians forcing Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson off the air. Same old shit you hear today, and I'm sure older posters can give earlier examples.

"These days you get arrested for humming a Gracie Fields ditty... "

Did I @harry_m_h? Give referenced direct quotes, please. I think you may be mixing me up with the left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'. https://t.co/sPX7vCzFcq

— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) January 5, 2021

had a chortle at "left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'" but as Mark S posted recently, he's completely correct about them being the top cranks for Dr Wakefield.

Aa proof that my dad is not reading my posts on ILX, he has bought me a subscription to Private Eye for Xmas, so I will be able to report what is in in through 2021 I suppose.

To start with: The Craig Brown parody in the bumper Xmas issue was a fairly nasty but not that well-done Peter Hitchens piss-take.

the MD column is excellent though, and acknowledges that the Eye got it wrong on MMR

Craig Brown has always been shit tbfttl

Same goes for the ex-Scotland manager of the same name.

I remember reading a whole book of Craig Brown and it was all like this, yes. The parodies in Viz (Tony Parsehole etc.) are much better.

CUNT

Just to save people asking me the same question, yes, I think there is a direct equivalence - moral and practical - between someone like Trump and someone like McDonnell. And I think acknowledging that honestly is an important part of how we move forward now.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) January 7, 2021

someone ought to take his other eye out, he only sees up his own arse anyway.

Just to save people asking me the question, yes, I think there is a direct equivalence - moral and practical - between someone like Trump and someone like Dan Hodges.

i just think hodges is an absolute, simon-pure idiot. one of those people a bit like lolico where there’s no point thinking about anything that he says other than for the lols and to note “this is what an idiot sounds like and says”.

yeah but at least lolico is so utterly ridiculous and clueless that he's mildly amusing at times. I've never laughed at this guy once, even when he's at the ridiculum full-moon stage.

I always marvel that Hodges came up with this, post-Sandy Hook, which is OTM, and yet everything else is absoulte drivel

In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) June 19, 2015

'You can't say anything anymore' was a trope going strong in 2003 or so. I know because I used to hang around on a blog that took apart Daily Mail articles in fine detail. 'Political correctness' a term from Maoism, but been around since the 80s.

Those complaining about an alleged 'PC' in the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s never, ever seemed to have any substance to me

Obvs many of the usual suspects continue to do so. As they're so used to making shit up, I doubt they've particularly noticed whatever is actually going on with this 'cancel culture'.

i love glenda jackson in marat/sade

she said she wouldn't live in the same building as her son "because of the stench". But unfortunately I don't think she was referring to his excremental views expressed in the Torygraph. Her politics are quite Blue Labour which probably isn't shocking for someone of her age.