British Right-Wing Pundits

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apparently Julie's effort isn't quite up to the standard of the Lawrence Fox book

dh lawrence might as well be the absolute fucking patron saint of anti-woke media-types lol

^^^my turn at being user Left, everyone must be cancelled

thing is, dh lawrence WAS -

unconvinced by this assessment of the works of nottinghamshire dave

ah c'mon, these people would kill to be declared legally obscene and have their works publicly banned lol

Last time I tried to read Lawrence my teeth were so on edge after a page or two I must've ground them down a few millimetres

And no of course the anti woke army don't want to be censored by the law where's the fun in that?

wd you let yr servants read THE PLUMED SERPENT user imago? i put it to you --

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good cover or bad?

(good)

Great cover, too good for that lummox

i guess he's like hemingway, the good lessons are so absorbed by one and all you don't even see them as the value of the writing any more and only repeatedly stumble over the bad stuff nowadays

(dhl's book on american lit is excellent, very funny and sharp on things ppl weren't seeing then -- he wd have been a good shitposter, longform fucked him up i think)

(the fontana modern master on him is p good tho very weirdly structured, the leavis book is AMAZINGLY TERRIBLE)

The non novels are fine, yes, tbf. Every bit of the novels I've read are like a self-conscious scholarship boy trying to show you how smart he is and not quite pulling it off

omg

I read Lawrence's Apocalypse before I really understood what it was about and seem to remember it was bonkers, need to give it another try.

Lots of adult human females whinging in the mentions on that tweet, obvs.

She has undeleted her twitter and posted a video of some IDF soldiers dancing

Sea and Sardinia is great. I like a bunch of his poetry too. The novels are exhausting.

Burchill can fuck off.

i think... i quite like some of dhl's novels. Like is perhaps the wrong word. But the conversation has made me want to revisit The Rainbow and Sons and Lovers, which istr i found intersting at the time.

they were very fighty! (some of the fights song since won of course -- porn now compulsory -- but possibly not all!)

those fights in full (except for the porn):
"i am slim and fey and sexy and ginger and working class and yet i am also way smarter than any of you so-called bloomsbury types who want to pet me and fuck me"

(i guess that includes some of the porn)

Lorks, looks like JB is going full Linehan.

At least the awful, awful Linehan created works of genius before going full shithead

JB, who is?

Julie Burchill, I’d guess.

My jaw has just hit the floor.

The Spectator’s Christmas edition contains this poem by Julie Burchill about Priti Patel; the rhyming is criminal, the intent malevolent. pic.twitter.com/UmONzBwMQl

— Mic O’Holy Wright 🏳️‍🌈🌋🏴‍☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) December 28, 2020

jesus, mary and jiminy fucking cricket!

BOAK

I was expecting it to be awful, still wasn't at all prepared for that.

i think this article that my phone wants me to read is also in the christmas one, surely a bumper issue of jfc no:

‘You can’t have opinions any more’: Rick Wakeman interviewed by Rod Liddle

If I were Rick Wakeman, I'd be glad no-one was allowed opinions.

I'm pretty sure Rick does, in fact, express many of his opinions in said article.

this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say

it obviously has the effect of silencing kinds of speech that are accused of being silencing of the kinds of speech favoured by the telling it like it is crowd, but they seem to think this kind of preemptive self victimisation is an essential part of telling it like it is

this cancel culture thing we keep hearing about... how do we make it happen?

I fully intend to ask people like that if they’re whinging about cancellation in advance of some major plan to say something insensitive in public.

it might have worked a treat for Julie. I don't know how publishing works but I presume she a got an advance on her book before it was cancelled. And now maybe she'll get another one! Or if not it's increased her profile much more than that execrable brexit play did. Lol I can remember when she was bigging up Patrick Marber as the greatest living UK playwright, around the time of Closer I think. For some ridiculous reason that play is on my bookshelf, my partner bought it at some point and when I was having a rubbish clear-out she wouldn't let me throw it in the burner where it belongs!

dark lols at me typing "cancer culture" and just spotting it before I hit submit btw

The problem I had with Closer was that every character was such an unbearable self-absorbed twat that it was hard to care about any of them, not surprised that JB identifies with it.

^^

nailed it!

xxp

your typing/editing skills are still much better than mine, Onimo. I miss out words all the time and often even if I check before I post I mentally add them when they aren't there!

one dialogue segment of Closer that Julie highlighted as classic playwright greatness was some corny as fuck line about how the human heart looks like a clenched fist... （´＊｀）

He was always good on "Knowing Me, Knowing You" though.

true yeah.. and also as the dim-witted reporter Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan on the day today!

Very much so!

Only saw it once, but iirc this was the last of Marber being funny as a writer or performer: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cbyjp

this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say

It was already mainstream in the 80s when I was a teen, eg media mockery of the "loony left", the GLC giving grants to black lesbian pottery groups, schoolchildren being made to sing Baa-Baa Green Sheep, "You can't call them 'manholes' now, you have to say 'person holes'", "right-on" alternative comedians forcing Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson off the air. Same old shit you hear today, and I'm sure older posters can give earlier examples.

"These days you get arrested for humming a Gracie Fields ditty... "

Did I @harry_m_h? Give referenced direct quotes, please. I think you may be mixing me up with the left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'. https://t.co/sPX7vCzFcq

— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) January 5, 2021

had a chortle at "left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'" but as Mark S posted recently, he's completely correct about them being the top cranks for Dr Wakefield.

Aa proof that my dad is not reading my posts on ILX, he has bought me a subscription to Private Eye for Xmas, so I will be able to report what is in in through 2021 I suppose.

To start with: The Craig Brown parody in the bumper Xmas issue was a fairly nasty but not that well-done Peter Hitchens piss-take.