HAHAHAHA
AND HEEEEEEEEERE COME THE THINKPIECES
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:59 (five years ago)
Helen Lewis: don't encourage the plebs to write a book, jEz. And also getting books published is one of the inalienable universal human rights for all.
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:06 (five years ago)
As hilarious as this is, you really have to wonder what Hachette thought they were getting into commissioning a book by Julie Burchill called "The Woke Trials"
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:19 (five years ago)
willing to bet JB can trade up to a better publishing deal with this
(possibly with an even less discerning publisher)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:22 (five years ago)
well it must have been a business choice rather than artistic one, but jeez does her crap sell that much to make it worth the reputation damage?
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:23 (five years ago)
she was literally a millionaire off of PLATINUM LOGIC etc in the 80s
(which lol i bought and read: not good even as a pulp roman a clef abt joan jett if she'd signed to motown, the very evident inspiration)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:27 (five years ago)
everything else merely sells p well within the UK media village i think
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:28 (five years ago)
simon and schuster gave milo a million-dollar advance iirc!
then he started yanking the actually-paedos-are-good lever lol (also there was a terricially funny courtcase abt it where discovery included them trying to edit the actual manuscript) (JB in the old days was well known as diligent at filing copy that needed little editorial work if you ignored like fact-checking any of the opinions -- viz she can spell and write a good sentence and construct a workable argument)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:34 (five years ago)
in conclusion publishers don't know what they're doing either and everything is a stupid lottery
But Milo, at the time, was riding high on the alt-right/alt-lite wave. I can see how someone would think publishing a book of his would be very profitable. Burchill's time has passed, surely? If you want a FrEe SpEeCh islamophobia outrage read there's so many others to choose from.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:37 (five years ago)
Yes, I cannot imagine who - other than, as mark says, UK media types - would be interested in reading a bok (or anything) by Julie Burchill in 2020.
― Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:44 (five years ago)
small but noisy clan of middle-aged coked-up ressentiment-laced rightwards-liberal north londoners
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:03 (five years ago)
oh you did say the media types actually, my bad
https://productimages.worldofbooks.com/1847490964.jpg
apparently Julie's effort isn't quite up to the standard of the Lawrence Fox book
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:06 (five years ago)
dh lawrence might as well be the absolute fucking patron saint of anti-woke media-types lol
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:08 (five years ago)
^^^my turn at being user Left, everyone must be cancelled
thing is, dh lawrence WAS -
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:10 (five years ago)
unconvinced by this assessment of the works of nottinghamshire dave
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:13 (five years ago)
ah c'mon, these people would kill to be declared legally obscene and have their works publicly banned lol
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:16 (five years ago)
Last time I tried to read Lawrence my teeth were so on edge after a page or two I must've ground them down a few millimetres
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:17 (five years ago)
And no of course the anti woke army don't want to be censored by the law where's the fun in that?
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:18 (five years ago)
wd you let yr servants read THE PLUMED SERPENT user imago? i put it to you --
https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/2051-1/112/5C6/58/%7B1125C658-37F5-4DF4-8D18-8CDF232B7C84%7DImg400.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:20 (five years ago)
good cover or bad?
(good)
Great cover, too good for that lummox
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:24 (five years ago)
i guess he's like hemingway, the good lessons are so absorbed by one and all you don't even see them as the value of the writing any more and only repeatedly stumble over the bad stuff nowadays
(dhl's book on american lit is excellent, very funny and sharp on things ppl weren't seeing then -- he wd have been a good shitposter, longform fucked him up i think)
(the fontana modern master on him is p good tho very weirdly structured, the leavis book is AMAZINGLY TERRIBLE)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:28 (five years ago)
The non novels are fine, yes, tbf. Every bit of the novels I've read are like a self-conscious scholarship boy trying to show you how smart he is and not quite pulling it off
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:30 (five years ago)
omg
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:32 (five years ago)
I read Lawrence's Apocalypse before I really understood what it was about and seem to remember it was bonkers, need to give it another try.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:42 (five years ago)
Lots of adult human females whinging in the mentions on that tweet, obvs.
― scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:48 (five years ago)
She has undeleted her twitter and posted a video of some IDF soldiers dancing
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:59 (five years ago)
Sea and Sardinia is great. I like a bunch of his poetry too. The novels are exhausting.
Burchill can fuck off.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:41 (five years ago)
i think... i quite like some of dhl's novels. Like is perhaps the wrong word. But the conversation has made me want to revisit The Rainbow and Sons and Lovers, which istr i found intersting at the time.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 10:54 (five years ago)
they were very fighty! (some of the fights song since won of course -- porn now compulsory -- but possibly not all!)
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:55 (five years ago)
those fights in full (except for the porn): "i am slim and fey and sexy and ginger and working class and yet i am also way smarter than any of you so-called bloomsbury types who want to pet me and fuck me"
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:56 (five years ago)
(i guess that includes some of the porn)
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:57 (five years ago)
Lorks, looks like JB is going full Linehan.
― lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:29 (five years ago)
At least the awful, awful Linehan created works of genius before going full shithead
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 07:26 (five years ago)
JB, who is?
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 09:41 (five years ago)
Julie Burchill, I’d guess.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 09:51 (five years ago)
My jaw has just hit the floor.
The Spectator’s Christmas edition contains this poem by Julie Burchill about Priti Patel; the rhyming is criminal, the intent malevolent. pic.twitter.com/UmONzBwMQl— Mic O’Holy Wright 🏳️🌈🌋🏴☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) December 28, 2020
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 28 December 2020 16:17 (five years ago)
jesus, mary and jiminy fucking cricket!
― calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 16:21 (five years ago)
BOAK
― scampopo (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:08 (five years ago)
I was expecting it to be awful, still wasn't at all prepared for that.
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 December 2020 18:09 (five years ago)
i think this article that my phone wants me to read is also in the christmas one, surely a bumper issue of jfc no:
‘You can’t have opinions any more’: Rick Wakeman interviewed by Rod Liddle
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 28 December 2020 18:46 (five years ago)
If I were Rick Wakeman, I'd be glad no-one was allowed opinions.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 December 2020 18:48 (five years ago)
I'm pretty sure Rick does, in fact, express many of his opinions in said article.
― why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:47 (five years ago)
this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say
it obviously has the effect of silencing kinds of speech that are accused of being silencing of the kinds of speech favoured by the telling it like it is crowd, but they seem to think this kind of preemptive self victimisation is an essential part of telling it like it is
― Left, Monday, 28 December 2020 20:08 (five years ago)
this cancel culture thing we keep hearing about... how do we make it happen?
― new variant (onimo), Monday, 28 December 2020 23:36 (five years ago)
I fully intend to ask people like that if they’re whinging about cancellation in advance of some major plan to say something insensitive in public.
― scampopo (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2020 23:39 (five years ago)
it might have worked a treat for Julie. I don't know how publishing works but I presume she a got an advance on her book before it was cancelled. And now maybe she'll get another one! Or if not it's increased her profile much more than that execrable brexit play did. Lol I can remember when she was bigging up Patrick Marber as the greatest living UK playwright, around the time of Closer I think. For some ridiculous reason that play is on my bookshelf, my partner bought it at some point and when I was having a rubbish clear-out she wouldn't let me throw it in the burner where it belongs!
― calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 23:56 (five years ago)