But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

leslye headland?

force feeding everyone's goose livers

also at&t/warnermedia just sold crunchyroll to sony, to add to that post up there. sony already owns crunchyroll's primary competitor funimation so there will presumably be large redundancies

feel like that's a big deal that might be swept aside due to all of today's media blitzes

https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/disney-investor-day-2020-announcements.html

So Star Wars and Marvel aside, Disney is pumping out DOZENS of new series next year, many of them fronting as absurd an elevator pitch as you're likely to hear outside of Quibi.

Besides Hawley's Alien show, four more seasons of Sunny and the return of Atlanta here's the FX lineup:

The Old Man, starring Jeff Bridges; Ryan Murphy’s anthology series American Horror Stories; B.J. Novak’s anthology series, Platform; Taika Waititi’s comedy about Native American teenagers in Oklahoma called Reservation Dogs; maybe, finally, the long in the works Y: The Last Man series; and Shōgun, a series from Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo based on James Clavell’s novel described as capturing the “real life Game of Thrones” of feudal Japan.

Nat Geo:

A new installment of Genius about Martin Luther King Jr., a documentary; Secrets of the Whales, a documentary; A Real Bug’s Life; a nature documentary, America the Beautiful; Chris Hemsworth challenging himself to do crazy things with his body in a series called Limitless; and a Darren Aronofsky series with Will Smith about a “journey to unlock the secrets of this planet’s most extraordinary, unexplained phenomena.”

Disney + TV:

A Mighty Ducks series, a Turner & Hooch series with Josh Peck, a girls’ high-school-basketball series with John Stamos called Big Shot, The Mysterious Benedict Society with Tony Hale and Kristen Schaal, a previously announced Beauty and the Beast Gaston-focused prequel with Luke Evans and Josh Gad; the newly revealed version of Swiss Family Robinson from Outlander’s Ron Moore and Crazy Rich Asian’s Jon M. Chu; and a previously announced TV adaptation of the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series. Disney also announced plans for animated shows called Baymax (as in Big Hero Six), Zootopia+, Tiana (as in The Princess and the Frog), and Moana. Pixar is continuing to make a bunch of shorts that will appear on Disney+ and has announced its own Disney+ franchise spinoffs: Dug Days, about the dog from Up trying to make his way in suburbia, coming fall 2021; and a Cars series, about Lightning McQueen and Mater driving around the country, coming fall 2022. It also revealed a new original series, Win or Lose, that tells the story of a middle-school softball team in the lead up to a big championship game, with each episode from the perspective of a different character. That’ll come out fall 2023.

Sweet fuck that's a lot of unappealing tv

Taika Waititi’s comedy about Native American teenagers in Oklahoma called Reservation Dogs - could be interesting

they should have their broadcasting license taken away and redistributed to the people for nonsense like this

can I offer you four more seasons in this trying time? it’s always sunny in philadelphia has been renewed through season 18, making it the longest-running live action sitcom in TV history. pic.twitter.com/EtIbGBljrO

— FX Networks (@FXNetworks) December 10, 2020

The Mysterious Benedict Society with Tony Hale and Kristen Schaal

Have dug them both, but together sounds like...a lot?

Especially coming after the Netflix Lemony Snicket. Too Much Whimsy.

🚨 The new David Lynch Netflix project, UNRECORDED NIGHT, is now listed as being co-produced by Twin Peaks Productions, Inc., which, as far as I can tell, has previously *only* been used on Twin Peaks film and TV programs.

Is UNRECORDED NIGHT really part of TWIN PEAKS? pic.twitter.com/1CAmaPpto8

— --------- (@fatecolossal) December 12, 2020

i've gotten to know a native woman from oklahoma (who apparently knows one of the people involved with the taika waititi show) and the vibe and sense of place she has for it is amazing and bizarre and hilarious so I'm kind of excited about this

I thought the HBO Bee Gees doc was ultimately pretty standard issue but still pretty good. My wife had no idea of the extent of their career.

Alice in Borderland is extremely stressful

looks like a slightly more tasteful Gantz

probably one for the Netflix thread btw

lol my kids started watching the first episode of that and the first things I encountered were a fistfight in a bar and a character shouting 'shut up, bitch!!' So I was like, nope

how many of the services in this thread’s title have been shut down or absorbed into other offerings? i count at least three (hbo max, quibi, playstation vue)... does at&t watch still exist?

Standalone WatchTV is no longer available for new sign ups or to re-subscribe.
Existing WatchTV customers who subscribe to the app or have a qualifying AT&T Unlimited plan can continue to use the service.
Customers on a qualifying AT&T Unlimited plan with the WatchTV benefit can create an account here.
You will be redirected to the WatchTV login page in 1 seconds - click here to go to the login page right away.

then it takes you to a page saying that they don't support Firefox

cool that Neil Young's guy is getting so much work now

Quibi was announced, burned through 2 billion, and died in the year since this thread was created

A quick bite at the cherry.

Trashfuture had a good episode on Netflix and their stalling growth recently.

i don't think hbo max has been shutdown or absorbed.

!!!

BOOM! @hbomax will be available for @roku devices as of tomorrow. Details soon on @vulture

— TVMoJoe (@TVMoJoe) December 16, 2020

Finally!

Between snaking all the 2021 WB releases and now this, it's almost as if HBO really, really wants people to watch HBO Max.

how many of the services in this thread’s title have been shut down or absorbed into other offerings? i count at least three (hbo max, quibi, playstation vue)... does at&t watch still exist?

I love Shudder so much

sorta surprised they haven't been snapped up by a bigger player yet

or just integrated into the AMC app

the fact that they put up multiple at least good new-to-me genre movies every month is a miracle

ones which are part of a wider telco/broadcast offering probably have more stamina to ride it through than standalone offerings. in theory there are huge war chests from mergers to create new content

AT&T took on $170 billion in debt to buy/merge with Warner/DC/HBO and DirectTV, they're probably in a far worse position than standalone offerings.

Yeah it's a good point. I guess my view right now would be that it's all about revenues/subscriptions/top line. Jostling for position effectively, the investment phase. So they don't mind carrying debt, especially as the general and imv correct consensus is that OTT will become the primary distribution method for media in the next... oooh when do i want to say? five years seems in the right ballpark.

Standalone offerings don't really have any other revenue streams. And to be honest it's necessary to distinguish between content creators and aggregators like Netflix and sole aggregators of rights ownership like . I'm sure I've got a market map somewhere. Obv as Bezos charmingly said, you're also selling a pair of shoes or idk a fridge with Amazon Prime, so their model is set.

Although my last manager was a awful prick in many ways, one thing he did once say to me has stuck with me, which is that the broadcast and film media entertainment ecosystem is 'just' a way of pushing money around. It doesn't create huge capital wealth, compared to other industries. I don't know how true this is, but it felt apt enough to me to want to explore.

In terms of assets, one really interesting area is how you measure the value and depreciation of media assets. How Netflix have treated this is really interesting.This fascinating article comes to the conclusion that they're balancing depreciation v much in their favour, but it's not clear why. My answer would be the fundamental unsustainability of the Netflix business model, though it depends what their goal is tbh.

Anyway, I'm rambling like a sheep shits, at random and everywhere, but it's an area i need to do a deep dive on for work reasons, and also cos i'm interested.

The ones I really don’t get are aggregators with no subscription model like Tubi. Streaming commercial rates are very low as I understand it and even if they own the programming (some of which is very decent) they still have to shell out for bandwidth.

Tubi launched in 2014 with a $4 million investment from venture capital and a couple of entertainment execs, as a platform owned by an ad sales company. MGM and Lionsgate put $6 million investment, plus content libraries, in the next year. They sold to Murdoch's Fox Corporation for $440 million cash this year.

interesting, thanks sic.

I assume that none of them are making money at all, just convincing different investment bros to dump cash onto their debt piles every year by showing colourful charts that illustrate increased subscriber percentages.

Netflix could possibly be closer to profitable if they actually rolled episodes out weekly. their big expense is making more shit so that they can keep dropping new releases, as viewer interest gets burned off in ten days, instead of returning for ten weeks & building investment in a story & characters.

i think netflix are profitable but cashflow negative due to the upfront capital costs of chasing subscriptions in new markets, hence the reason their stocks are classed as junk aiui. (which is - again aiui - a perfectly legitimate stock class, but yeah, AAA rating this is not).

bonds, not stocks. i am not an expect in this area.

Fired up the Roku today and HBOMax is there!

What is so Max about HBOMax, does it contain like creatine or something

Speaking of which, is it just me, or does HBO Max show up as plain old HBO in Roku? Which I'm sure is the same thing, but man does this company have a branding issue. HBO, HBO Now, HBO Go, HBO Max. Are they just now HBO again?

No it's HBO Max still. I think you might need to add the HBO Max for some older Roku devices. As I understand it, not all of them auto updated.

Of the ones I don't subscribe to, the services Y for which I reasonably often notice "I'd watch X if I had Y" are Shudder and STARZ.

The one I subscribe to that I never watch anything on is Amazon Prime Video.

you should watch Patriot

For some reason, whenever I see mention of Patriot, I conflate that awful 2000 Mel Gibson movie with that AMC show about Revolution era spies.

you should watch Patriot

― na (NA), Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:53 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

1000x yes

and yeah man did they tank it with that awful title

My favorite show of the past many years

i downloaded epix specifically to watch perpetual grace ltd. specifically bc it's the same creator and much of the same cast as patriot but i still haven't gotten around to actually watching it