Buying A House: C or D?

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I know a guy from college who bought a church and literally has been renovating it for almost two decades -- I think he does have some money but is doing a lot of the work himself. It seems like you have to want that kind of lifetime project for its own sake, he's that kind of guy.

Also, that thing has 4500 sf of space just on the main floor! You don't want to deal with that shit -- just the sheer amount of renovation and maintenance that amount of space means, not to mention heating, cooling etc.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:17 (five years ago)

"help yourself to some breakfast. we keep our cereal boxes in the old tabernacle."

we can dance forever at covideotheque (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:21 (five years ago)

"west elm doesn't make a barstool that's the exact height of a martyr's crypt. you have to make it yourself."

we can dance forever at covideotheque (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:24 (five years ago)

friend of a friend bought an old historic church 7-8 years ago with the idea of making it into a recording studio but afaict having access to all that extra space has just removed the guardrails from his gear-hoarder tendency, and hes basically been walling himself up there inside a giant tomb of broken amps and garbage-picked gear ever since

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:31 (five years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/ozqsw1V.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:45 (five years ago)

"for this album we wanted to go back to the basics: just 7 monsters in a room making music"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

never noticed before the attention to detail in the sets and props. Sweet silverface fender amp

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:38 (five years ago)

So many church renovations go horribly unless you want to live in a completely open space. The whole sanctuary/balcony/alter space just doesn't cut up well. You get a bunch of boxes and dumb hallways and it's just a waste.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:52 (five years ago)

plus a Space Echo and one of the weird '70s drum machine

the Muppets might be recording a live album for Castle Facer

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:54 (five years ago)

friend of a friend bought an old historic church 7-8 years ago with the idea of making it into a recording studio but afaict having access to all that extra space has just removed the guardrails from his gear-hoarder tendency, and hes basically been walling himself up there inside a giant tomb of broken amps and garbage-picked gear ever since

I have seen this happen to so many people ... though most of them are/were renters ...

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:57 (five years ago)

So many church renovations go horribly unless you want to live in a completely open space. The whole sanctuary/balcony/alter space just doesn't cut up well. You get a bunch of boxes and dumb hallways and it's just a waste.

I think the best one I've heard about that wasn't an event space or arts ed org use was living quarters + porn studio

sarahell, Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:59 (five years ago)

"I don't know how to set up a music studio or renovate a house, I think I should try to do both at the same time on hard mode"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:06 (five years ago)

"for this album we wanted to go back to the basics: just 7 monsters in a room making music"

lol

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:11 (five years ago)

"I'll be announcing my pizza topping preference from the pulpit in 15 minutes."

we can dance forever at covideotheque (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:21 (five years ago)

there is always a muppets picture.

mark e, Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

live caught my first mouse that's been living in the back yard. Cute little guy. Going to release him 10 miles away in a park by the ocean (where he might be eaten?).

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 15:50 (five years ago)

aw what did cute mouse ever do to you?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 16:52 (five years ago)

he pooped in our laundry area which is stupidly in an unconnected sliding door shed with so many entry points outside.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 16:56 (five years ago)

also put him under my hat to cook a coq au vin, and it turned out awful.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 16:57 (five years ago)

I released him and when I turned around, a hawk had landed on my car. I may have picked a popular area for this. Anyway, it's morning and I released him in an area with lots of cover. Should have a chance. If a beautiful bird gets breakfast, that seems like a better outcome than killing traps? I guess I am wondering, though. Many opinions of every kind available on the internet.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:05 (five years ago)

how did you know it was *his* poop did you do a dna analysis

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:19 (five years ago)

12 of his peers (beanie babies, including 1 princess diana bear) convicted him before I loaded him into my car.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

before you all attack me, I did not remove the princess di bear from its case during trial

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:29 (five years ago)

We use snap traps. Call us callous, but it's a sanitary issue.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 23:30 (five years ago)

PETA says rats are very clean and even have a natural floral aroma.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 23:48 (five years ago)

no mention of their poops, however

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 23:49 (five years ago)

Despite its relative rarity, hantavirus is a enough of a worry that we don't mess around with any rodents. Just kill them.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Thursday, 31 December 2020 00:03 (five years ago)

Submitted docs today to volunteer for a third of a million euro worth of debt, mar dhea whats the worst thatll happen sher

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 December 2020 01:46 (five years ago)

You wil be fiiiiiine. Just caught and drove a friend to the park for the first guy. I have a routine going where I put the cage on the passenger seat and play "People Ain't No Good" for them during the ride.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 December 2020 02:48 (five years ago)

I catch a mouse every three months or so with old timey wooden traps in the basement. They can do whatever in the garage but we store food in the basement so they can fuck off

But I’ve leaned it’s a good idea to disable them before you go out of town for two weeks

joygoat, Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:05 (five years ago)

Surfjan do you need to borrow a cat, I can do contactless drop off and you can keep her (you're getting the bad cat obv)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:24 (five years ago)

always best not to think of anything you ever pay for in terms of their percentage of a million dollarbucks

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:40 (five years ago)

idk it was working ok for me until now tbh

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:46 (five years ago)

"we're going out to dinner but I only have .00004% of a million dollarbucks to work with so let's not get shakes"

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:50 (five years ago)

Makes tipping @ 15% quite the flex

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:55 (five years ago)

Thanks quincie, but I need a snake and then a mongoose.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 December 2020 03:57 (five years ago)

darragh, that mortgage doesn't sound too bad compared to rent if you are in a city?

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:07 (five years ago)

If there’s ever been a year to invest a lot of money in a place to live (and work)

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:10 (five years ago)

Its application stage so nothing confirmed but we'd hope to be moving out of the city and gaining several rooms

And yeah looking at 25 x 12 x [rent] is the obvious comparator to calm oneself on the figures

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:15 (five years ago)

Submitted docs today to volunteer for a third of a million euro worth of debt, mar dhea whats the worst thatll happen sher

doing this as well! (for the equivalent in aussie dollarydoos) what could go wrong??

Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Friday, 1 January 2021 04:47 (five years ago)

Gallipolli could come looking for ye

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 04:50 (five years ago)

my great-grandfather got wounded there twice, therefore my family has paid our blood debt to the Ottoman Empire thanks

Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Friday, 1 January 2021 05:03 (five years ago)

Well twasnt there peacekeeping he was so maybe be careful ordering any footstools just in case

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 05:08 (five years ago)

We've been in our current (first ever) house for 16 years and really want a new one. Our tastes have changed (become more modern) and we want more room and a open floor plan. The problem is we don't want to leave our very small village, which is known for its old houses and small lots which limit our possibilities (there are about 5 modern houses in town). Back in August we missed out on a near-dream home by not going to our "limit" and have been kicking ourselves ever since.

Good luck to all the ilxors finding their new places because it can be tough! I have to remind myself that we are extremely lucky to even be able to have these kind of conversations.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 1 January 2021 14:13 (five years ago)

I could use some advice. Our mortgage closed probably 1 month ago, and has already been sold/transferred to a large bank. The closing process is over. However, we cautiously transferred a little bit more than the estimated closing costs to escrow before close. I believe this is commonly done to avoid a delay in closing should a broker find a small bit over the estimate is required. We haven't received our refund from escrow yet. They've contacted me to say that a mistake was made, and they actually need $250 more to pay some fee that was left off of the original disclosure we signed. They want us to sign a new disclosure so they can remove the extra $250 from our escrow refund. In this case, I believe the broker would even be paying somebody else that falls under their same corporate umbrella. Would it be rude for me to just ask that we don't sign new closing disclosures and have them take care of this in-house? At best, somebody made a mistake with respect to a fee to be paid to someone apparently in-house. At worst, this is a scam they run to skim more money off of escrow refunds. I didn't even negotiate closing costs (as I've previously done) during the original disclosure because I knew that every broker was insanely busy due to the refinancing requests. Would you sign the new disclosure, pay the fee, and move on?

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:00 (five years ago)

Whats 250 quid worth to you vs the forseeable consequences of not, i guess

nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:06 (five years ago)

I think “in-house” is nebulous when even among the same corporate umbrella they might be distinct businesses

mh, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:15 (five years ago)

$250 is not a small amount of money to me, but we will be ok without it at the moment. If I pay, it will go to an asset of Warren Buffett and its shareholders, who certainly needs it less than I. I suspect the only consequence for me would be a damaged relationship with this particular mortgage broker. To be honest, they may have already damaged that relationship by asking for it. It seems like something that maybe wouldn't be done to some people? I am willing to be talked out of that feeling as well. I am more concerned about screwing some cog in the larger Buffett machine that will need to admit a mistake, if that's what it would take. I probably should just be straightforward with the broker about how this is making me feel sour about everything but that I'm definitely willing to pay it if it means someone is being squeezed?

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:17 (five years ago)

it wouldn't have been an issue at all if it came up in the original disclosure, obviously. It's just weird that it's happening now, after they've sold our mortgage to a large bank and know we had a little extra in the escrow account.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:19 (five years ago)

Cant spell escrow with screw iirc

nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:24 (five years ago)


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