Nether Sprouts.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 December 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link
Don't know if it is shocking but I finally learned this term for a common phenomenon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merism
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 December 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link
Similar to when I learned via ILX the therm "antimetabole."
Man, you want a deep dive? I always knew the (American) use of the term "commode" for "toilet" was pretty regional, largely southern, but looking into it I learned all sorts of (erm) shit:
https://theweek.com/articles/580173/brief-history-lavatory-language
Biggest new term to me was "thunder mug" or "thunder box."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 December 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
Thunderbox is Australian afaik (specifically an outdoor, wooden loo, for the vibrant resonance).
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 7 December 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link
Done Eden
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Monday, 7 December 2020 06:49 (three years ago) link
(two Charlene references in four days, a happy week!)
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Monday, 7 December 2020 06:53 (three years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/C0hve5Jx-9t3qhjUu3_Cjw_S_Gw=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-5824573-1434025506-3898.jpeg.jpg
... this from the guy who sang about khazis on "Lazy Sunday".
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Monday, 7 December 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link
it's possible he'd met an Australian or two during his international rock stardom tbf. iirc a seminal text about scatologically unrestrained oafish Ockers, that took particular delight in euphemistic slang, had been running in a London magazine for a decade by then
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 7 December 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link
he met a bunch of Australians when the Small Faces toured there with The Who in '68
― Josefa, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
Mark and Luke, Gospel authors, were not in the original twelve apostles. (Matthew and John probably weren't written by Matthew and John but that's another story. Really the quality of Biblical teaching in British schools is appalling but any close reading would probably cause dramatic loss of faith so naturally avoided by C of E schools.)
― ledge, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
That they weren't was one of the things I was taught at school. I'm not sure anyone ever told me they were, before that, I guess I just vaguely assumed. John almost certainly was written by a different John (though which one is up for debate iirc)
― Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
It's just possible I wasn't paying attention.
― ledge, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
Though I'm pretty sure no-one ever said re: the nativity "the census required Joseph to move back to his ancestral home of 40 generations ago".
― ledge, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
I was raised areligious and attended American public schools, so finally making a concerted effort to learn more about the varied religions of the world over the last several years has been m/l a daily dose of 'shockingly old when'.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
the gospels were written by the primary (competing) sects that had grown in the wake of jesus' death life aiui, or at least that's how an old friend of my dad's from divinity school told me when i was 11 years old, who memorably followed that information up by admonishing me that the idea they were actually written by people named matthew mark luke and john was "horseshit"
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
I remember that the lost common source for synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, which share the basic story and have many verses in common) was named 'Q', which is funny in the light of QAnon.
― Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
"Q's existence has been questioned", lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source#:~:text=The%20Q%20source%20(also%20called,in%20the%20Gospel%20of%20Mark.&text=Q's%20existence%20has%20been%20questioned.
― Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
Ah yes. That's short for 'Quelle', right? (German for 'source'.)
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
i don't know if that's true and i don't care cause lols xp
― pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
So, though Mark is synoptic, the Q parts don't feature in his gospel, apparently. Not sure if I was taught this wrong or have just forgotten.
― Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Mark and Luke, Gospel authors, were not in the original twelve apostles.
No. Even though on later reunion tours (like in 57 AD) they were billed as apostles, they weren't in the original lineup.
Mark had first been brought on as a session bassist, then was asked to fill in on keyboards for the European leg of the 45 tour, when Andrew was in rehab. After Andrew's overdose, Mark was invited to become a permanent member of the live band. But he still craved a greater role in songwriting because otherwise he couldn't get in on any of the lucrative publishing rights.
Luke was just a guy in the same scene - playing the same clubs, knowing some of the same people. His solo debut flopped commercially, but he got enough attention from the apostles' producer, Melvin the Arimathean. So when they needed a rhythm guitarist for some dates in Galilee, Luke was the guy to call. He never got along with Simon the Zealot, which led to later tensions both in the studio and on stage.
Meanwhile, original apostles Matthew and James began touring as "The OTHER Apostles," leading to a contentious lawsuit over use of the name. The suit was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
― that is how it crumbles cookiewise (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
Mark had first been brought on as a session bassist, then was asked to fill in on keyboards for the European leg of the 45 tour,
Fake news, there was no 45 AD (nor any of 1 AD through 524 AD)
― huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
sic, okay. You got me. I do know that the dating nomenclature is disputed.
Especially if you look at the fine print in the rockism/poptimism decisions made by the First Council of Nicaea. My understanding is that the dating of the 57 reunion tour was reconciled via papal dispensation; cf. the bull De Datum Tourium and its corollaries. Things got even more confused by the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar; and almost none of the literature on early Apostles lineups survives.
I claim no expertise in this area, I'm just going by what the t-shirts said. Some of the bootlegs from that era don't have CE/BCE dates at all; they only express years since the founding of Rome.
― that is how it crumbles cookiewise (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
This might be clarified when the Gnostic gospels have a one-day-only copyright extension release on Spotify next month.
― huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
a 4AD release, I assume
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
I just learned today that XTC are amazing
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 05:22 (three years ago) link
I recently (to my shame) got that "Space Oddity" was a play on 2001: A Space Odyssey. Not sure how I missed that one.
― Sam Weller, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link
Read Marlowe's late-16th century Doctor Faustus yesterday, got a bit of a surprise at the snippet "Che sera sera / What will be, shall be".
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link
Safe Harbour day for the election this year was the day after Pearl Harbour day. Somebody pointed that out on a podcast I was listening to a few days ago. Is that a coincidence or did people think you needed a safe harbour after that attack or the memory of that attack.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link
Only got this now, thx!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link
That the it in Hey Jude’s “don’t make it bad” refers to the sad song. I’d inattentively put the phrase down to being a clumsy idiom.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:17 (three years ago) link
Now doubting myself on this
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:18 (three years ago) link
Well, this is Paul 'in this ever-changing world in which we live in' McCartney we're talking about here.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
I’ve always given him the benefit of the doubt on that and had it as “in which we’re living” not that that makes it much better.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
Also, it's "If this ever-changing world..." There's nothing wrong with that line, it's just people mishearing it.
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link
Okay, that was my bad, but there's still 'in which we live in' to contend with.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link
shrug emoji
― Nhex, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
speaking of Bowie, just yesterday I was reading something about his favorite books and realized I'd never spotted "Jean Genie" / Jean Genet before
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
That list he made near the end? I seem to remember people thinking it was too middlebrow but I kind of liked it.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
Middlebrowie
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
Yeah his top 100 list. Genet's not even on the list, but his name comes up in the discussion of it in this book called Bowie's Bookshelf.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
― Alba, Wednesday, December 9, 2020 6:29 AM (three hours ago)
yeah i had "in which we're livin'" which seemed colloquially correct nuf
― pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
"Appellate Court" refers to "appeals." Just clicked the other day.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
I should take this to the "Irrationally Angry" thread, but "If this ever-changing world in which we're living / makes you give in and cry..." is perfectly sensible and, as far as I can tell, grammatically correct.
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 10 December 2020 06:40 (three years ago) link
I did recently learn that "House of Commons" means "House of Commoners"--not being British, my brain never made the connection between Lords and Commoners.
I'll bet the Commons chamber is drafty and has less majestic cloakrooms than the Lords.
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 10 December 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link
Okay, that was my bad, but there's still 'in which we live in' to contend with.― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:56 AM (sixteen hours ago) shrug emoji― Nhex, Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:13 AM (sixteen hours ago)
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:56 AM (sixteen hours ago)
― Nhex, Thursday, December 10, 2020 1:13 AM (sixteen hours ago)
But if this ever changing world, in which we're living, makes you give in and cry, say "live and let die."
Nhex otm, this line is perfectly fine either as a lyric in a pop song or as an English sentence.
― huge rant (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2020 06:49 (three years ago) link
lol xpost
I'm gonna take the bait and say that line is fine grammatically, but clunky as a lyric. Still a good song.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 10 December 2020 06:51 (three years ago) link
clunky as a lyric
tbc this is also an excellent pop lyric:
Listen to those dancing feet Close your eyes and let goBut it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swingBop shoo-wahBop shoo-wahBop shoo-wahEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsSpinning all around the floor Just like Rogers and Astaire who found love without a care Stepping to our favorite tune, the good times always end too soonEverybody's dancing lift your feet, have some funCome on everybody, get on your feetClap your hands I'M *SCREAMING*Everybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap you handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your hands
Everybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your hands
Spinning all around the floor Just like Rogers and Astaire who found love without a care Stepping to our favorite tune, the good times always end too soon
Everybody's dancing lift your feet, have some funCome on everybody, get on your feetClap your hands I'M *SCREAMING*
Everybody danceEverybody danceEverybody danceEverybody dance
Everybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap your handsEverybody dance, doo-do-doo-dooClap your hands, clap you hands
― huge rant (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2020 07:21 (three years ago) link
I had a student write a paper about that song once!
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link