Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

DEFEND????

FUCKING READ

SATAN, I CALL TO THEE

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING??

when did we all start to tolerate this constant stream of horseshit from all sides?

oh wait, i forgot, it's ME who is the bullshitter that the keepers of true left knowledge can't tolerate. why? because i can tell the distinguish between 1 ton of shit and 5 tons of shit? why can i tell the difference? because i've got these motherfuckers dumping it on me all the time

not that it makes a difference, but I think harping on why this guy has sucked, why he continues to suck (noms & appts), and why his admin and D leadership in general keep telegraphing the ways that they’ll suck into the future is ok, cathartic, and could possibly, hopefully, lead to better organization on the part of the Left. I dont know if there have been ‘official’ numbers on this, but I suspect that despite their misgivings they showed up in better numbers in key spots (MI, MN) than all those Lincoln Project-y republicans we were supposed to win over.

I’ve voted straight ticket D in every presidential and (I think) every mid term for the last 18 years. (I didn’t even vote for Bernie in the 2016 primary!) And the money. I’ve given so much money (imo). Sometimes I just want to speak to the Manager of the Democrats, and those avenues seem to have been essentially cordoned off and reserved for people who seem really out of step with the D base.

not you km or really even most posters itt but Aimless's clockwork umbrage at criticism of Joe Biden does come off as weirdly "defensive"

oh wait, i forgot, it's ME who is the bullshitter that the keepers of true left knowledge can't tolerate.

???

why did you guys break Karl

who's gonna deliver the mail now that the Mailman is down

Rob Halford once bragged about his ability to deliver goods

do not want to deliver mail to the left's equivalent of my (non-thinking, zero room for subtlety) mom. return to sender

there's a joke in here somewhere about mailmen and horseshoe theory

like, i read this thread and i can hear my mom's constant stream of bullshit, and how she takes any information you give her and just distorts it into something that's vague and meaningless and pointless. put aside the fact that she's constantly factually wrong. that's not what connects her and the far right to this thread (and many people on the left). it's that she's no longer coherent or talking in a way that deserves a response

Which facts have people gotten wrong about Joe Biden?

Rob Halford once bragged about his ability to deliver goods

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal)

He promised I had another thing coming!

great question, not disingenuous at all

here comes captain pedantic bullshit

seriously, you're like a fucking climate change denier on wattsupwiththat.com in 2006

ad hominem!!!!!!

You see mad that people are saying a lot of accurate things about Joe Biden and then, as wins said, grafting on "and is therefore no better than Donald trump," which zero people have suggested.

All the people you're raging at voted for Joe Biden over Donald Trump.

i'm just asking, milo, have you personally checked all of the weather stations across the planet? do you know that ALL of them are not within 30 feet of a heating appliance? have you calibrated all of them yourself??

All the people you're raging at voted for Joe Biden over Donald Trump.

my mom didn't vote for donald trump, and she's the biggest fucking dumbass on this planet

so?

Karl, you're quite literally telling people that are pointing out verifiable facts that we can't do so, or that doing so is somehow the same as denying reality.

Also, I voted for Gloria La Riva.

El Tomboto would make a joke about that, I'm sure.

Putting in even the smallest amount of effort to defend the guy who's working his ass off to find a job for Rahm Emanuel is incomprehensible.

― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:14 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This point is narrow enough that I feel like I can respond to it: I, too, am dismayed to see reports that Rahm Emanuel is being considered for a post in the administration and would be disappointed if that came to fruition. As of now, however, I have not seen any reporting to suggest that Biden is "working his ass off to find a job for" Emanuel. In fact, I sort of assumed that it was all a trial balloon. We can certainly bemoan the fact that *someone* may be considering Rahm *in some fashion*, despite a record that should be immediately disqualifying, but there's no evidence that Biden is personally going to bat for him while stubbornly ignoring all protests.

Karl, you're quite literally telling people that are pointing out verifiable facts that we can't do so, or that doing so is somehow the same as denying reality.

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:50 PM (eight minutes ago)

oh great, this day is going to contain a Literally-off. here we go. i did not literally tell people that are pointing out verifiable facts that they can't do so. i did not literally tell people that pointing out verifiable facts is the same as denying reality. if you think i literally said that, then you've probably misunderstood every post i've made on this board, for years and years and years.

ironically, i was pointing out the similarity to the ways that climate deniers, when faced with criticism, love to divert people to their preferred conversation topics, like "cite a criticism of joe biden in this thread and say it's not true, i dare you", and then when someone's dumb enough to answer it earnestly, drag them off to the woods so that they can engage in a neverending circular "conversation".

^^THAT^^ is what i am literally telling people

Biden bears absolute responsibility for every decision made by his transition team and selection of political appointees.

Emanuel should be in the stocks getting pelted with rotten fruit, instead the best case scenario is that he was "floated as a trial balloon" for a Cabinet post and instead they want to shoehorn him in as trade rep, avoiding anything nasty like a confirmation hearing.

Biden wouldn't have to work his ass off. If he wants to give Rahm Emanuel a job, all he has to do is hire him, or else nominate him for Senate confirmation. It's not that hard. Let us know when he does it.

He does have to work his ass off to get this person completely undeserving of a role in the Administration in a year that has seen constant civil unrest because of police brutality without openly telling everyone to his left to fuck off and die.

That he appears willing to risk the viability of his administration to get Rahm Emanuel a job is one more fine illustration of why we need this Joe Biden Sucks thread.

He does have to work his ass off to get this person completely undeserving of a role in the Administration in a year that has seen constant civil unrest because of police brutality without openly telling everyone to his left to fuck off and die.

Could you diagram this sentence, or at least start inserting punctuation marks until it makes sense? I mean, I still won't give a shit, but it might make you a better writer.

https://i.redd.it/y3whvhuom07z.jpg

Damn, guess we hit day three already.

wait which ghouls are actually confirmed to appear in joe biden's cabinet

the way y'all talk about it i assumed rahm emanuel was running the country as we speak

joe biden sucks btw

^ otm

By all means, criticize it if it comes to pass. You're reading into Biden's motivations based on rumors in Crain's Chicago Business.

gius i have an announcement

joe biden sucks

I went looking for information on Emanuel's relationship to Biden's cabinet and the main sources of information I found definitively said Emanuel said he was interested in becoming Secretary of Transportation, followed by a whole bunch of people saying "yeah no" in response.

Based on this, I agree that Joe Biden is indistinguishable from Satan.

Larger context that seems important is that Sic guy starts to sound exactly like a Fox News grandpa if you bring up
Hunter Biden and Milo Z still pushes the “Biden mental decline” narrative which all but the most pathetic dead enders dropped after the numerous debates, town halls speeches etc. So I think there’s probably a degree of cope/embarrassment factoring in for guys that had really bad predictions throughout this whole deal here.

There are folks on this board who I largely agree with politically and with whom I'm sure I could have productive conversations about these issues if only they a) weren't so eager to throw the 'starting points re: the reification of viable progressive policies' baby out with the 'anyone with a whiff of centrism about them is a garbage person who belongs in the garbage' bathwater and b) weren't absolutely terrible at maintaining the focus of an argument.

One likely point of consensus that I'd posit around these parts is that Biden was a thoroughly underwhelming and disappointing dem candidate. Like, I'm pretty sure we can all agree with that.

joe biden is unfortunately not cool enough to be satan

Ehh probably only Biden and Bernie (but it would be closer) could have won though. Head to head polls with Trump indicated as much during the primary. Biden’s team did a good job balancing the Dems very broad coalition and building the blue wall back and not taking the internet’s campaign advice.

Biden is an underwhelming candidate but his campaign, given the circumstances, did not disappoint. I knew he'd win, but still.

since i've had a bite and taken a breath, i'm ready to re-enter the thread as if nothing at all happened and continue on the way as i always have acted, as per this thread's tradition.

fine to say: joe biden sucks
fine: all presidents suck
fine: joe biden supported the development of our modern incarceration program
fine: the future is bleak. something fundamental needs to change. joe biden is not the wave of the future
fine: goddamn joe biden sucks. if you would have told me in 2017 that it would be president joe fucking biden in 2020 i would have choked on my barf later that evening

not fine: joe biden doesn't give a shit about the incarceration system, he doesn't care about whether or not people are happy or not, and now he's putting rahm emmanuel in the cabinet. oh and btw, YOU'RE the one who can't keep their facts straight. if you don't think that's true, name me one time when i did not keep my facts straight....yes...wander off toward the foggy woods...you're not coming out into the clear light now...this fog is where we no longer willing to distinguish between shades of gray...

btw, fun fact: the last time i ever spoke to my mom, she pushed the "joe biden is clearly on a mental decline" angle. i'm not sure what the leftier-than-thou angle is on that one, but the rightwing one is that it's because the evil democrats want kamala harris to be the president by summer 2021. and kamala harris isn't white, so that is a big problem for the right. not sure what the "biden is 1988 ronald reagan" angle on the left is, but probably something really dumb and based on a screenshot from a speech that some dipshit edited

a) weren't so eager to throw the 'starting points re: the reification of viable progressive policies' baby out with the 'anyone with a whiff of centrism about them is a garbage person who belongs in the garbage' bathwater

Viable seems quite loaded here - and do you think Biden only has a whiff of centrism about him?

we're all on a mental decline, really

I do think Joe Biden is on a downward trajectory, mentally speaking. It tends to happen with older folks. I think this because I've seen old interviews and new interviews and from what I've seen he generally appears more lucid in the former. I do not believe this is because the Dems have some deep-seated desire to install Harris.

Sure but people exaggerated in this wishful thinking sort of way during both the primary and the GE like “he can barely speak” or that he has full on Alzheimer's which probably lowered expectations in ways that helped him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/23/us/politics/biden-haines-national-intelligence.html

Drone program, defended Gina Haspel