Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

How might one understand these Biden voters? What makes them tick?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/want-to-understand-biden-voters-heres-your-reading-list/2020/11/23/1b5f07a0-2dbe-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html

Eugene Robinson stops short of suggesting that conservative media send reporters to Whole Foods, but I can imagine a half-decent humor column or SNL sketch along those lines.

Suggest a Joe Biden, 46th President of the United States thread

there are eleven Joe Biden threads already tbh, any more are likely to create confusion in the marketplace

Good metaphor for the illusion of choice tbh

lol:

“The proof of the pudding is in the eating,” Mr. Biden said in an interview Wednesday. “The Bush-Cheney relationship hasn’t tasted very good. Not a single person you can name for me” — at this point, he leaned forward in his chair, jabbed his finger in the air and punctuated his words sharply. “Look at me, now — a single one can tell you that the pudding has tasted good. Not one. Name me one serious person, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican.”

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He said he would bring more to the job than any of his predecessors, except possibly Lyndon B. Johnson. “I know as much or more than Cheney,” Mr. Biden said. “I’m the most experienced vice president since anybody.”

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, January 16, 2009 2:45 AM (eleven years ago)

Nobody will be watching Biden unless he says something idiotic, and Palin can beat herself; he just needs to show up and say words no one will remember.

― nabisco, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:11 AM (twelve years ago)

I will be doing a series of ritual spirit-dances to keep Biden from saying anything dumb, and I hope you will all join me.

― nabisco, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:12 AM (twelve years ago)

dude's gonna gaffe big time, i can feel it

― eman, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:13 AM (twelve years ago)

"Good metaphor for the illusion of choice tbh"

you can't just toss Biden off in one post and then witheringly both-side him in the next, that's against the rules!

dude's gonna gaffe big time, i can feel it

― eman, Tuesday, September 30, 2008

glad he gaffed his way to pushing Obama to support gay marriage again tbh

I'd like to see Joe Biden on TV!

― the pinefox, Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:38 AM (twelve years ago)

I am boggling that PalinPalooza was 12 years ago. I mean...

He has no interest in the common good either. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, November 24, 2020 6:20 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Come on, man. Joe Biden has worked in public service his entire life and clearly has "interest in the common good." Of course, his ideas on how to achieve it may not match up with yours. You may think that his vision and policies aren't sufficiently expansive and, as a result, the "common good" won't actually be attainable by much of the population. I probably agree with those criticisms. But it's unfair to say that he isn't *interested* in making life better for all Americans. I don't buy this notion that he's secretly evil and deliberately out to screw people.

There is no difference between any of the perspectives that don't align exactly with mine, actually.

Also I've shit my nappy again can someone get that.

Glad to have you back, deems.

"Also I've shit my nappy again"

this is the right thread for it!

Tis the right site for it tbh

Love yis all obv

How might one understand these Biden voters? What makes them tick?

Instead of the 2017 Cletus safari, we'll have the 2021 brunch safari.

Joe Biden has worked in public service his entire life and clearly has "interest in the common good."

Do you think the former means the latter? There are a lot of right-wing politicians that it would apply to, no?

eh, earlier i typed "jaymc otm" and elaborated a little bit, but didn't think it added anything so i deleted it.

but can we not? am i really supposed to pretend that joe biden is 100% evil and there's really no difference between him and a lot of right-wing politicians?

ok, you can, but that kind of reasoning alienates nearly everyone, not just rightwing dipshits.

it was the same with obama, this same fucking conversation and line of reasoning. we get it, biden fucking blows. seriously, we all get that. it doesn't make him 100% evil. my parents are racist fucks who betray everyone in their universe if it meant a chance of kissing jesus' gonads in heaven. they're 99.9% evil. joe biden is not even in their fucking league, get out of of here

you guys - matt gaetz ALSO says he has the public's interest in mind!

!!!!!!!!!111!!!1111

and they BOTH take MONEY!

i don't understand...how could i think something is...not 100% evil...or 100% the best...at the same time? could there be degrees of good and bad? are there, in fact, a wide spectrum of actions and behaviors and consequences in the world so that every issue on the goddamn planet can't be reduced down to a child's book GOOD / BAD dichotomy?

no..no. joe biden is the same as chuck todd, who is the same as chuck grassley, who is the same as joe lieberman, who is the same as john kerry, who is the same as tom cotton, who is the same as dan quayle and ted cruz. they're all 100% evil!

it's a fucking joke

i'll just be over here in the Evil category, it's where i belong anyway

i oversee the circle of hell that is labeled Pedantic Bullshit Human Centipede

Instead of the 2017 Cletus safari, we'll have the 2021 brunch safari.

Yes. Funny, and probably fair to an extent and partly true - but a little reductive and tendentious as well.

I'm sure it's fun for yr TRU LEFT to say that the Biden victory is just due to prissy suburban liberal elites who are okay with crony capitalism but find Trump icky because he is uncouth.

This overlooks millions of voters of color and from otherwise marginalized communities who find Trump and Trumpism not just socially unpresentable, but actively dangerous to their welfare and survival.

I think there's room for Whole Foods Democrats / Brunch Bloc jokes, sure. But I don't want to minimize those for whom an anti-Trump vote entails antiracism, y'know?

Did anyone say there's no difference between Biden and "a lot of right-wing politicians"? Nor did I see anyone say he's "100% evil" for that matter.

Joe Biden has spent his career serving his interests and ambition and the interests of donors and special interests that support him. Sometimes that might overlap with the common good but there's little evidence to show that was his primary motivation.

This does not mean he's 100% evil nor that he's Ted Cruz (who has spent 99% of his adult life in "public service").

welcome all, to the Pedantic Bullshit Human Centipede, level 8

Do you think the former means the latter? There are a lot of right-wing politicians that it would apply to, no?

― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, November 24, 2020 11:18 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

No, I don't think "has worked in public service" *necessarily* means "is interested in the common good." I was just adding a detail. But you're right, it's irrelevant.

I've come to realize that one of the places where I differ most from people to my left is not in ideology or policy but in how I perceive the motivations of individual Democratic politicians. Basically, I think most Democrats in state/national politics are well-intentioned and few are irredeemable (even if I wish that many had more progressive views and took bolder approaches to politics).

Well, I guess if corporations are the common interest, and manufactured consent around his racial policies is taken into consideration, Biden has served for the common good.

This is the Biden sucks thread. If you don't like it when we talk about how much Biden sucks, then take it elsewhere, Karl. Afaic, Biden is an evil, racist fuck who serves at the whim and pocketbook of the donor class, who would rather see the population miserable and making money for them than any sort of common good.

Can we actually retitle this "The Biden Sucks Thread"? Maybe that would encourage more wide-ranging discussion to migrate to other Biden threads. Sic points out that there are 11 Biden threads in the archives, but this is the only one that's gotten any significant traction in the past two years, because people view it as a default.

I think that's a great idea, tbh.

Biden should get a new thread on Jan. 20 anyway

xposts

i won't take it elsewhere. of course biden sucks. you know what else also sucks? some of these novelty sushi gummies i have sitting here. some of them are 100% evil, in fact.

i wish there were ways to differentiate between how a human being sucks and gummy roe sucks, but i guess we'll have to make do and put them in the same giant category and resist any urge to distinguish between them

let's not dumb our conversation down

This is the Biden sucks thread.

Point taken. We need to open another Biden/Harris thread asap. Then this thread can serve its highest purpose of letting the same six or seven people bitch about Biden's awfulness to one another. If they try to infect the new thread with endlessly repeating how much Biden sucks we can say, "take it to the 'Biden sucks' thread; we're having a different discussion here."

so we're agreed, we'll start the "Biden is Great and beyond daily, withering criticism" thread

this shit is 100% as dumb as the shit i hear from my mom

what a fucking 840766091

Please understand that imo repeating "Biden sucks" is not "withering criticism".

i was trying to be sarcastic and failed.

what i meant was that of course, any thread about biden is going to involve lots of criticism, because he has made many mistakes and will continue to make them. i was trying to be sarcastic and offer the diametric opposite of a commom theme of this thread, which is "biden is evil and there is no difference between him and the rightwing, when you think about it"

Not many posts saying "Biden sucks"

Yes. Many say "Biden is irredeemable" or "Biden is beyond all hope" or "Biden has sold us all out and I hate him". Which, I admit, has its place, which is in this thread, where such sentiments can flow as freely as hormones at a frat party.

I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before

Biden sucks!

he's filling his cabinet with just the worst kind of douchebags afaict

Second verse
Same as the first

Hormones at frat parties can flow on any thread. And I've seen many a thread turned around from its original purpose in my time here. No doubt it will happen again xps

Many say "Biden is irredeemable" or "Biden is beyond all hope" or "Biden has sold us all out and I hate him". Which, I admit, has its place, which is in this thread, where such sentiments can flow as freely as hormones at a frat party.

or PFOA in your bloodstream

Can we actually retitle this "The Biden Sucks Thread"?

Add it to the title, but "Senator from MBNA" (/Citi) is part and parcel of why Joe Biden sucks.

Putting in even the smallest amount of effort to defend the guy who's working his ass off to find a job for Rahm Emanuel is incomprehensible.

Tell me how a man who has consistently served US hegemonic interests in bombing innocent people abroad, building up a racist police state and carceral system, and serving corporate interests above those of his constituents is any better than some of the right-wingers you speak of?