GET OUT: US politics November 2020

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The turkey video is from 2018!

xxxp - did you lobby for Raytheon, though?

The turkey video is from 2018!

was gonna say, no way is he that cheerful rn

lolyellen

That progressive seat at the table is paying dividends.

Good grief, they have 500 people signed up to speak for the Michigan Board of Canvassers. They're going to limit them to like 2 minutes from here on out, which if everyone actually speaks means they'll wrap up around 10 a.m. tomorrow.

It's all winding down collectively in any event. With Michigan, Pennsylvania and Nevada certifying over these next two days -- Arizona and Wisconsin will do the same next week -- that, combined with the attention shifting over to Biden's cabinet nominees, underscores that it's reached endgame. There may be some flailing to come but no traction.

Ahhhhh.....

In the 19 days since the election, 12 have included no events on the president’s schedule. He has appeared at public events four times and has played golf at his own Virginia course six times. He has taken no questions from reporters.

Since Election Day, he has spoken 8,143 words over 18 days through Saturday, according to Factba.se, a website which tracks all of his utterances and movements. On average in 2020, he spoke 8,398 words daily, according to Bill Frischling, the website’s owner, but only 454 words per day since Nov. 3. On the last day of the campaign alone, he uttered more than 55,000 words.

He averaged about 48 minutes on camera every day in 2020, Frischling said. He has spent about 50 minutes on camera total since Nov. 3.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-quiet-defeat/2020/11/22/c2a714be-2cdb-11eb-9c71-ccf2c0b8d571_story.html

Imagine having to talk to this child for your job

How many people will speak in MI before a total loon gets screen time? They're on number two, so ... five? Seven?

despite Michigan obviously going to vote yes to certify, there needs to be a coordinated campaign to tie up that fucker Shinkle's phone line for the next 6 months. he shouldn't have been allowed to vote given his wife serving as a witness for Trump.

A short but pungent thread.

Folks, if you're not following a whole bunch of lawyers on here you're probably not seeing the way the collective legal community is in shock at how bad Trump's lawyers are. Even if you are, it's probably hard to grasp the detail of how truly bad it is.

So here's an analogy:

— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) November 23, 2020

Anyway, done and dusted

Republican canvasser AARON VAN LANGEVELDE announces he will vote to certify Michigan's election results.

It's over, folks. Joe Biden officially wins Michigan.

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) November 23, 2020

It was already over and it irritates me that people are using language that hides this. The question isn't who won, the question is about when Trump will admit Biden won.

otm. it's been driving me insane. this isn't a living, breathing electino

Yup, they just voted 3 to approve, 1 Shinkle to abstain.

I mean everyone agrees the answer to that is "never", right? xps

arrest Shinkle

Phew

Abstain? Hahahaha perfect.

Anyway, who knew?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/trump-fears-giuliani-and-other-biden-vote-challenge-lawyers-are-fools.html

otm. it's been driving me insane. this isn't a living, breathing electino

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal)

Pierre Electino?

At that event, Giuliani perspired so heavily that sweat apparently blackened from hair dye conspicuously ran down his cheeks as he made baseless allegations of electoral skullduggery.

Was this not the same press conference where Rudy smeared snot all over his head? Why mention the hair dye and leave out that detail?

it's being covered up

My guess is that one of Trump's next moves will be to scream about his "incompetent" legal team and that he should get a do-over for all of the cases they filed.

Yes, I know that's ridiculous and not how things work, but let's not pretend that hasn't already been the case.

my understanding is that hair dye doesn't run like that and it's more likely he was using mascara or something on his temple highlights like the fucking halfwit he is

forgetting Trump for the moment (as if that's possible), once PA certifies, GSA is somewhat boxed into a corner, as when you add the EVs of states Trump challenged to the states Trump isn't challenging, Biden's over 270.

that doesn't mean I think they'll complete the ascertainment right away - but we'll probably see a few more non-leadership GOP Senators cowardly poke their heads out.

I know it was suggested upthread that Trump might fire Murphy if she ascertains the election, and that her successor might undo her actions, but do we know if that's even possible? Once ascertainment is done, is there any putting the spaghetti back into the machine?

if there's not, I say "who fucking cares if she's fired", but if there is - I almost still don't.

President Trump 'does not want a transition,' an administration official told Washington Post. 'He's made that very clear, and we are following orders'

so cute that people keep framing this like a choice, something you can "opt out" of

Trump 'does not want to be arrested,' an administration official implied to anyone who would listen. 'He's made that very clear, and we are actively involved in crimes against the state.'

I know it was suggested upthread that Trump might fire Murphy if she ascertains the election, and that her successor might undo her actions, but do we know if that's even possible? Once ascertainment is done, is there any putting the spaghetti back into the machine?

The lawyers here will correct me, but this is impossible.

only the pest beople

if it's impossible, then I don't get why she's so afraid of being fired. you'll be fired in January either way. what's a month's difference

But when asked why Trump doesn’t fire Giuliani and other attorneys who remain on the team, a person familiar with the president’s thinking gave a profane shoulder shrug of an answer.

“Who the f--- knows?” that person said to NBC News.

if she holds the line, she'll land a sinecure in 2021. if she goes against Trump, she loses that

Emily Murphy, the lead referee, said she could not ascertain a clear winner, so she sent the match to extra time. The score was 4-1 in favor of Man City

This would strike me as unconstitutional as the line item veto. A federal agency can't, like, rescind the allocation of money already allocated.

my understanding is that hair dye doesn't run like that and it's more likely he was using mascara or something on his temple highlights like the fucking halfwit he is

When I was in Catholic school one of the priests had a combover that shifted from chestnut brown to mahogany brown depending on the day of the month, and when it was in its mahogany phase it would sometimes trickle down the back of his neck.

DO IT

Fox News contributor and three-time failed congressional candidate Dan Bongino today floated a potential run for President of The United States in 2024. https://t.co/lHKX77Oc2F

— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) November 23, 2020

He'll win the daily Facebook user demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GeF7A05zQ8

If it were as simple as firing that GSA person and hiring a new person to reverse her decision, then what would be the point of the position in the first place?

Actual user of Ronco spray-on hair: "I never dreamed that I'd look like this."

re: "Trump fears Giuliani, other lawyers in Biden vote challenge are ‘fools that are making him look bad": It dawned on me sometime last week that Trump actually believes this shit, that the election was stolen, and that his lawyers would prevail. I really thought he was just bluffing and doing a power grab.

Dan Bongino was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma a month ago, might want to focus on that first

NEW: GSA has informed president-elect Joe Biden the administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from administrator Emily Murphy sent Monday afternoon and obtained by CNN.

— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) November 23, 2020

I think he believes that when he loses it can only be due to some inherent unfairness. What he literally believes about fraud is hard to say but I think he he believes that.

I really thought he was just bluffing and doing a power grab.

He's really doing a power grab, but he truly believed that it would be possible to 'win' the election through canny legal maneuvering because he's been manipulating the legal system for personal benefit all his life. I'm sure he believes that if he just had the best lawyers on his side, and with all the judges he's appointed (who he presumes are as crooked as a dog's hind leg), it would all fall into place for him again. He will believe this to his dying day.

tbf, if the election had been as close as 2000, that belief would have some validity.

Sad, as they say

Here's the full letter from Murphy to Biden: pic.twitter.com/DJ4SFLzrfP

— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) November 23, 2020

And yeah, clearly his whole 'we'll take it to the Supreme Court!' deal is a core belief that 'his' justices will rule for him. Which, no. They still haven't even said they'll look at that case involving the post-Election Day absentee votes from PA.

He will believe this to his dying day. Which cannot come soon enough.

We'll probably never know if a serial liar believes his own lies, or if it's all an elaborate bluff/con to never show weakness or back down no matter what. It can be either, or both, I'm fucking sick of trying to peer into his diseased orange brain and I just want him to die.