GET OUT: US politics November 2020

a deuce ex machina

...all with the endgame of grifting his ultra-credulous disciples for even more of their savings in order to pay off his $1bn+ debts

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I guess I'm not sure where "the next Trump" is supposed to come from. all the real Trumpy candidates save for that one QAnon woman who ran in a R+27 district have gone down in flames. and I think Trump has turned off enough centrist voters that just running someone "normal" is gonna be a disaster.

Ben Sasse and Mitt Romney, the JEB! wing of the party, are lost causes, they can't pivot - but almost everyone else under the age of 65 in the GOP plays the owning the libs game.

If Trump's appeal was entirely the gaucheness and TV fame, then no one, but I don't think that's going to be the case. We all think Ted Cruz is a disgusting chunk of rotting whale fat who could never capture the right audience to run with 24/7 grievance politics - but we all see through Trump's physical presence and bitchiness too.

All it takes are some Ben Garrison-quality memes showing Ted Cruz dressed like Rambo with an 8-pack.

It's pretty easy to imagine Nikki Haley winning landslides in '24 and '28.

It's not, though.

I respond the same btw when charisma-free planks like Hawley and Cotton also get mentioned.

yeah she's the one that worries me, I think she's the one who could capture Trump's base while simultaneously distancing herself from him enough for the centrists. I'm not too concerned about guys like Cruz who have the stage presence of a wet napkin. a lot of Trump's appeal is that he's entertaining. the fact that he got good ratings is why the media gave him so much speaking time to begin with.

can we please wait at least 1 year before we start worrying about the next election cycle

Seems like the rabid misogyny they encouraged and amplified through 2016 might backfire a little on Haley, but what do I know.

It's pretty easy to imagine Nikki Haley winning landslides in '24 and '28.

If there's one thing Republicans desire, it's women in positions of power

My pick for the Republican candidate in 2024 is a quick, merciless death for even engaging in this speculation right now

^^^^

Death for President

If by "entertaining" you mean leading endless Nazi-style rallies exhorting crowds to 'lock her up' Nikki's not your candidate. xp

Any republican with the potential to become the next presidential nominee will be devoured alive by the increasingly-ravenous school of piranhas that is the GOP constituency when said candidate inevitably fails to respond positively to every one of their insane and oft-contradictory demands.

OUTLAW TACOS FOR THEY ARE FOREIGN FOOD MADE FROM THE SOULS OF DEAD BABIES! ALSO MAKE TACOS MORE DELICIOUS!

Pennsylvania Republicans voting against—and Democrats voting for—certification of a county that Trump won by 22,000 votes. https://t.co/f9oX02nf98

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 23, 2020

In re: my previous post, plz see jaymc's post immediately following.

Good luck, GOP elected officials. Good luck.

Conversely, please have all the terrible luck in the world, GOP elected officials. Suffer until you wail.

yeah harnessing that kind of pure uncut crazy in support of any one candidate or ‘political project’ is going to be a tall motherfucking order

As the next US president, I will improve the average taco quality by deporting all false tacos and establishing a new Taco Overdrive Team to boost the flavor crystals of the tacos of our heartland using the innovation of our small business owners as well as my unique ability to make deals and dominate.

a lot of Trump's appeal is that he's entertaining

Nikki Haley is...not.

can we please wait at least 1 year before we start worrying about the next election cycle

― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Monday, November 23, 2020 11:47 AM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not interested in spending a lot of time speculating about 2024 but over the last 12 years on this board there's been way too much empty talk about the GOP's disarray while they've been wildly successful at dragging the country further and further to the right.

Sidney Powell is officially thrown under the bus for being too cuckoo:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/22/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-legal-439357

I'm not interested in spending a lot of time speculating about 2024 but over the last 12 years on this board there's been way too much empty talk about the GOP's disarray while they've been wildly successful at dragging the country further and further to the right.

"dragging"

no one needed to be dragged to this shit, they just needed to be reassured that they could still have a nice Thanksgiving while being total abject monsters

now they're going to give each other covid at thanksgiving

I was talking more about gov't policy/judiciary/etc. Yeah, there's a vast chunk of the populace that are all too eager to support inhumane bullshit.

Sort of surprised given events of recent days that this portion of the Voting Rights Act hasn't been discussed more: https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2020/11/23/michigan-canvassers-who-could-face-felony-charges/6388235002/

(a) Failure or refusal to permit casting or tabulation of vote
No person acting under color of law shall fail or refuse to permit any person to vote who is entitled to vote under any provision of chapters 103 to 107 of this title or is otherwise qualified to vote, or willfully fail or refuse to tabulate, count, and report such person's vote.

I'm not interested in spending a lot of time speculating about 2024 but over the last 12 years on this board there's been way too much empty talk about the GOP's disarray while they've been wildly successful at dragging the country further and further to the right.

there has also been a lot of empty catastrophizing about how the GOP is an unstoppable menace

I agree that we shouldn't speculate on who the next Republican nominee will be, nor engage in empty catastrophizing.

Pre-emptively trashing the incoming Biden-Harris administration is more fun anyways

I KID

The Michigan canvassers' meeting is live here, fwiw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuQquoM4sQ.

They're currently hearing public comments.

Said comments situation is strategic (in a good way, I'll note)

Chris Thomas, the state's longtime nonpartisan elections guru, just got done educating the reluctant GOP canvasser (Shinkle) on the duties of the job.

Now he's providing cover for the willing GOP canvasser (AVL) who's eager for Thomas to affirm there's no way out of certifying.

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) November 23, 2020

The key exchange -- between GOP canvasser Aaron Van Langevelde and longtime Michigan elections guru Chris Thomas -- tells you why AVL requested to hear public comment.

He wanted Thomas, who's universally respected, to testify in ways that gave him cover to vote for certifying. https://t.co/1JsKodZE9O

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) November 23, 2020

This point in the thread forward has more about those exchanges:

Julie Matuzak moves to certify the election results.

GOP'S Aaron Van Langevelde asks to hear members of the public before voting on the motion, even if he concedes they "have a duty" to certify.

"We have a duty to certify these returns," he adds.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 23, 2020

Why do I think that if we could hear this guy talk there would be a smallish question mark after each "we have a duty to certify"?

meanwhile we learn the prospective secretary of state has tastes:

wow. in re last RT, here's the incoming Secretary of State reviewing Marshall Crenshaw's debut https://t.co/F5sK7rCdKA

— Bowiesongs (@bowiesongs) November 23, 2020

Wonder how he feels about Field Day.

This thread is my favorite waste of time.

i also wrote for the harvard crimson! relatable

Lol

map for SoS

The turkey video is from 2018!

xxxp - did you lobby for Raytheon, though?

The turkey video is from 2018!

was gonna say, no way is he that cheerful rn

lolyellen

That progressive seat at the table is paying dividends.

Good grief, they have 500 people signed up to speak for the Michigan Board of Canvassers. They're going to limit them to like 2 minutes from here on out, which if everyone actually speaks means they'll wrap up around 10 a.m. tomorrow.

It's all winding down collectively in any event. With Michigan, Pennsylvania and Nevada certifying over these next two days -- Arizona and Wisconsin will do the same next week -- that, combined with the attention shifting over to Biden's cabinet nominees, underscores that it's reached endgame. There may be some flailing to come but no traction.

Ahhhhh.....

In the 19 days since the election, 12 have included no events on the president’s schedule. He has appeared at public events four times and has played golf at his own Virginia course six times. He has taken no questions from reporters.

Since Election Day, he has spoken 8,143 words over 18 days through Saturday, according to Factba.se, a website which tracks all of his utterances and movements. On average in 2020, he spoke 8,398 words daily, according to Bill Frischling, the website’s owner, but only 454 words per day since Nov. 3. On the last day of the campaign alone, he uttered more than 55,000 words.

He averaged about 48 minutes on camera every day in 2020, Frischling said. He has spent about 50 minutes on camera total since Nov. 3.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-quiet-defeat/2020/11/22/c2a714be-2cdb-11eb-9c71-ccf2c0b8d571_story.html

Imagine having to talk to this child for your job