GET OUT: US politics November 2020

they're all being blackmailed

Kinda my guess, but jesus, how much intel does he have on all of them?

if georgia was decided, we would be in full denial mode but they want his money and base for a few weeks more.

being blackmailed by Peter Cetera

to be clear, i don't mean TRUMP's money; I mean the runoff money he's bilking.

yeah this is all a show for the millions of Republican voters who literally believe Trump won all 50 states

Blackmailed? Only in the sense that there are tens of millions of MAGAnaut chuds who worship the T and will not brook the least criticism of their god-emperor. And those chuds vote, apparently.

Distance yourself from the Orange One and you get a kooky-ass primary challenger who will whup your milquetoast ass, because the electorate in primaries is dominated by motivated hyperpartisans.

like outside of Gaetz and a few other lunatics I really think these guys are counting down the days until Trump's powerless and they don't have to pretend to like him anymore but this strategy is backfiring because it turns out being a massive, ignorant asshole is what actually makes you popular in the GOP

otm

I suspect we'll see a few more GOP Senators call Biden "president-elect" after Michigan and PA certify, because at that point, Trump can't win unless he finds another state to contest outside of the battlegrounds, which would mean like, him arguing Biden didn't win Illinois.

Toomey actually called him President-elect after PA finished counting their votes. it's easy for them to still be cowardly and say "we were waiting for the votes to be certified unlike those reckless Dems".

some will continue to be silent, and some will say "we need to wait until all of the lawsuits are resolved", which ignores that they will never be resolved because his campaign just keeps refiling to keep cases in circulation so he can argue THE PROCESS HASN'T PLAYED OUT YET.

I’ve been walking around my neighborhood bragging about how I stole a bunch of ballots and changed them to Biden, so Illinois may be next

Someone has to seal the deal here, and I didn’t trust the electors

standing on the corner, watching all the ballots go by

A duo for the ages, these two.

daddy what did you do during the fascist grifter civil war pic.twitter.com/J9nYAAWp54

— kilgore trout, four seasons appreciator (@KT_So_It_Goes) November 23, 2020

What we need is a poll of the people who were in the Trump orbit for < a month before turfing out, lest we ever forget their contribution to this perpetual clusterfuck. Although the Mooch at least seems determined to never let that happen.

it’s a shockingly large universe especially when you include sycophantic GOP pols and media figures who fully debased themselves

I think a lot of that old adage "You can shear a sheep many times, but you can only skin them once" and how the GOP's entire shtick has been effectively ruined by a guy who just threw endless red meat to their voting base while lying about everything under the sun, and now they're in this position where they have to publicly support a position that's a loser from every single angle or risk losing a ton of the crazies who vote for them every election. It's true that Trump has taken over an entire political party in a way that I don't think's ever been seen in American history but it's also true that Trumpism is generally a loser - he got crushed in the popular vote twice, to really boring centrist candidates no less, Republicans got trounced in 2018 & have been struggling in special elections, including losing a Senate seat in fucking ALABAMA. I know a lot of y'all are scared about them running a "competent fascist" in 2024 but here's the thing...Republican voters fucking hate competency

yeah, feels like a competent fascist would have the stink of career politician that Trump manages to avoid with his relatable guileless idiocy

Fiery car wrecks are extremely mesmerizing, memorable and exciting. They're also full of chaotic piles of flaming wreckage in the end.

...Republican voters fucking hate competency

I guess I'm not sure where "the next Trump" is supposed to come from. all the real Trumpy candidates save for that one QAnon woman who ran in a R+27 district have gone down in flames. and I think Trump has turned off enough centrist voters that just running someone "normal" is gonna be a disaster.

Probably someone else from the stage of a comedy central roast. Let's see... Charlie Sheen? Larry The Cable Guy?

Jeff Foxworthy

Paul Ryan is right over there

Ross/Lampanelli 2024

Can felons run for president? Asking for the Tiger King.

This is kinda fun to look at. Seems they were all putting their faith into this sort of like their own OPPO dump style last ditch hope.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/jz5rv6/trump_campaign_says_sidney_powell_not_a_member_of/

just showed up in my email. my money is on junior.
http://i.imgur.com/GqmTmMY.png

#notmyturkeypresident

literally asking to toss all mail-in votes after they've already occurred. a sitting GOP rep filed this.

will fail, but jesus god, they're cockfarmers

Republicans in Pennsylvania are asking a state court to step in on an emergency basis to stop the vote certification there. The move comes just hours before most counties are expected to officially certify and Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar signs off.

The lawsuit was filed by GOP Rep. Mike Kelly and others on Saturday. It alleges that Pennsylvania's allowance of universal, no-excuse mail-in balloting was unconstitutional. The lawsuit seeks an immediate halt to the certification process and an invalidation of all mail-in ballots.

Now, with 65 of the 67 counties in the state expected to have meetings shortly to certify their election results, plaintiffs are asking the state board to immediately issue an injunction, writing: "the Court must intervene immediately in order to prevent further, irreparable injury from the resulting wrongs of an election conducted pursuant to an unconstitutional and invalid mail-in voting scheme."

Philadelphia County is expected to meet Monday or Tuesday, depending on this pending lawsuit. According to the Washington Post, Berks County does not intend to certify until Wednesday.

This year there were 2,612,091 mail-in ballots cast for the general election in Pennsylvania.

The initial request for an injunction by Rep. Kelly and other plaintiffs was filed hours before a federal judge in Pennsylvania wrote a scathing opinion dismissing a Trump campaign lawsuit. That suit was filed by Trump's legal team led by Rudy Giuliani, seeking to stop certification.

Judge Matthew Brann, a longtime Republican nominated by President Obama, compared the lawsuit to "Frankenstein’s monster…haphazardly stitched together," and slammed the request to disenfranchise nearly seven million voters in a complaint littered with "strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations."

The Trump campaign has appealed to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals which has granted expedited review of the appeal.

The Circuit Court set a deadline for the Trump campaign to submit its brief by 4 p.m. ET Monday, with the reply brief due Tuesday by 4 p.m. ET. The Circuit Court is still determining if there will be oral arguments.

Yeah laches applies here

apparently he didn't pardon the turkey.

Trump refused to pardon the turkey 🦃 ?!?!?!?!?pic.twitter.com/tVFjJanzvs

— David Leavitt (@David_Leavitt) November 23, 2020

Is that Trish from Broadcast?

too soon

Watch the video; he made a joke about the losing turkey challenging the result of the online poll and said the result wasn’t going to change.

This is likely as close as we are going to get to a concession speech from him.

Tbf re: oppo dump, there has been a truly historic trove of a terrible or terrifying Trump shit released over the past 5 years. The surprise twist was that either no one gave a shit, did shit or could do shit. But, like, don't blame the dump, the dump did the best it could.

I honestly don't understand why a court would even consider these 'grousing about the validity of electoral procedure ONLY AFTER votes have been cast to the grousing party's detriment' lawsuits at all.

Watch the video

no lol

"I honestly don't understand why a court would even consider these 'grousing about the validity of electoral procedure ONLY AFTER votes have been cast to the grousing party's detriment' lawsuits at all."

Well, it's a stalling tactic - the court will have to take time to dismiss, the dismissal will be appealed, the appeal will have to be denied, etc. Paperwork flies about and it looks like the Trump lawyers are FIGHTING FIGHTERS WHO FIGHT whereas the judges are sinister Deep State swamp creatures etc.

Tbf re: oppo dump, there has been a truly historic trove of a terrible or terrifying Trump shit released over the past 5 years. The surprise twist was that either no one gave a shit, did shit or could do shit. But, like, don't blame the dump, the dump did the best it could.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:11 (eleven minutes ago) link

Are you responding to my comparison? I'm only referring to the way everyone was hoping it would be the dump ex machina that would swoop in and guarantee the desired outcome decisively. As evidenced by that thread I linked, there was this similar desperation around something vague from a single source that was simultaneously being teased and promised to be "Big, if True".

a deuce ex machina

...all with the endgame of grifting his ultra-credulous disciples for even more of their savings in order to pay off his $1bn+ debts

xpost

I guess I'm not sure where "the next Trump" is supposed to come from. all the real Trumpy candidates save for that one QAnon woman who ran in a R+27 district have gone down in flames. and I think Trump has turned off enough centrist voters that just running someone "normal" is gonna be a disaster.

Ben Sasse and Mitt Romney, the JEB! wing of the party, are lost causes, they can't pivot - but almost everyone else under the age of 65 in the GOP plays the owning the libs game.

If Trump's appeal was entirely the gaucheness and TV fame, then no one, but I don't think that's going to be the case. We all think Ted Cruz is a disgusting chunk of rotting whale fat who could never capture the right audience to run with 24/7 grievance politics - but we all see through Trump's physical presence and bitchiness too.

All it takes are some Ben Garrison-quality memes showing Ted Cruz dressed like Rambo with an 8-pack.

It's pretty easy to imagine Nikki Haley winning landslides in '24 and '28.

It's not, though.

I respond the same btw when charisma-free planks like Hawley and Cotton also get mentioned.

yeah she's the one that worries me, I think she's the one who could capture Trump's base while simultaneously distancing herself from him enough for the centrists. I'm not too concerned about guys like Cruz who have the stage presence of a wet napkin. a lot of Trump's appeal is that he's entertaining. the fact that he got good ratings is why the media gave him so much speaking time to begin with.

can we please wait at least 1 year before we start worrying about the next election cycle

Seems like the rabid misogyny they encouraged and amplified through 2016 might backfire a little on Haley, but what do I know.

It's pretty easy to imagine Nikki Haley winning landslides in '24 and '28.