Mostly Apolitical Thread for Discussing/Venting our Rational/Irrational COVID-19 Fears and Experiences in 2020

That's a really weird take.

I have a reputation to keep up

i blame ownership

That's a really weird take.

nah

the very concept of owning shelter, and it being a personal asset that increases massively in value, inherently bends people's brains away from the idea of a collective society.

this would be a significant but not drastic condition in a world where everyone is assured of personal accomodation* but have the option to own a house instead; under a system that does not include home ownership as a richy-rich add-on option, it's the entire collective brain that gets bent, and more sharply.

* imi, publicly-owned housing would provide everyone with one spare bedroom, so they have the at-will ability to provide shelter to travelling family members, overseas internet friends, or acquaintances escaping abusive domestic situations.

the other thing to blame, as always, is the nuclear family

and disney

it’s all agriculture’s fault

Not unlikely.

I kinda trace the Housing Act 1980 aka the "right to buy act" as Thatcher's biggest victory over socialism/society/unions/collectivism so I agree that property ownership has bent the world out of shape.

The UK has half of its TV schedule devoted to buying fixing selling renting repossessing protecting decorating renovating etc etc our little castles with a side order of social housing asbo schemie poverty porn.

nb that my system which allows for personal home ownership as an add-on will ensure a permanent surplus of housing in every residential centre, thus allowing for anyone to move to any city or moderate-sized town at any time. this further enrichens and strengthens a collective society and undermines most base-level xenophobia.

I blame blame.

xps

That's a really weird take.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, November 20, 2020 6:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I have a reputation to keep up

― is right unfortunately (silby), Friday, November 20, 2020 6:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I'm always here for the sic & silby show, and I mean that in utter, utter seriousness.

Hello. I'm trying to work out the "right" responses in the following scenario but "right" might mean different things, including safe or legal or decent.

Scenario: 80-something bloke. Lives by himself. Has just been in hospital and probably needs some support in the home. He has four adult age children, all with partners, some with children of various ages.

Person 1: has partner, probably not up for staying any length of time.
Person 2: lives nearby, has partner and children (who are plausibly in risky jobs) but could move him in (to their home).
Person 3: lives over an hour away, has partner, but could work from his property.
Person 4: lives nearby but works in healthcare - probably not keen to be involved.

Assuming no-one wants to do permanent care, is there a safe way of managing this? (Eg. stay for two weeks/get tested between switches of households).

without knowing any of these people it seems like person 3 should suck it up

person 4 is obviously out, person 2 is most likely out. person 1 would be the ideal choice but being begrudging about it may make things worse. hence, 3

Could all the people chip in to have a professional home health aide do the needful?

That might (imo) be better than an emotionally charged debate over who has it worse vs. who has it better, whose risk is greatest, whose loved ones are more expendable etc.

Neighbours are back after two weeks away somewhere and I think they've brought people back with them because there's loud conversation going on and it's 3am. This during a time of house visits being banned.

Also, the bloke who does the yearly gas check phoned on Friday and insisted on coming around on Monday (he wanted Saturday but...). I would be surprised if he wears a mask when he does. I'll wipe all the surfaces and open the windows before he comes (although part of the test needs the windows closed, to make sure there's adequate ventilation), but short of shutting myself in the bathroom he'll be hard to avoid because it's all one room.

(More concerned about him catching something off me than me catching it off him tbh, he looks like he's retirement age)

I was in the supermarket shopping just now and another customer just pulled the classic "are you the manager?" line with the manager who happened to be aisle-walking at the time. Customer complained that they were refused service at the cigarette counter because they weren't wearing a mask. The manager very reasonably asked why they weren't wearing a mask and the customer started off on a "I will not be judged!" tirade. Fuck people. This whole pandemic has meant that I've had less contact with people, but still - fuck people.

Thanks for the answers! I wasn't really looking for a "That person should do it!" ... More, trying to work out in my head the complexities of staying within the law/advice (though this wouldn't necessarily be my first concern) and keeping everyone involved safe ...

Not happy that the cretin next door neighbour who i have never seen in a mask is standing at her door smoking into the stairwell I have to go up and down on when she has a balcony that at least doesn't feed straight onto the communal stairwell.

Despairing at things in Houston. Took kids to a park to get them out of the house and there were too many people, most unmasked. Sweaty runners huffing and puffing by us.

I worked in a new building that was in the final stages of construction and the vast majority of the workers didn’t mask properly or at all.

People suuuuuuuuuck.

not really happy that I'm having to pass within inches of someone who isn't wearing a mask and I've never seen in one either.
I've had this person not cop on that to get to my flat I've got to go right past their front door for like 3 or 4 years so probably not surprising but having my path obstructed by various forms of rubbish for the last few years hasn't been great.

both my parents were in another covid exposure (coworker lives with her family, their parents tested positive), and so far are negative but I really do not like this being a regular occurrence

btw thanks to everyone for the kind wishes, my sister had a mild case. she still sometimes randomly feels like she has smoker's lung, but hopefully that will fade.

great news lukas! in my case the aches and weirdness lasted a few weeks but eventually went away. i exercised as much as my body would tolerate (which wasn't much for awhile).

Do people wind up being shoved into supposed bubbles with people they can't stand or trust just because of geographical or architectural happenstance. was just wondering.

Well shit, my friend who I posted about a few days ago was moved into the ICU yesterday. Her husband wrote that she "now requires constant monitoring." Goddam I hope she gets better.

Oh man, sorry to hear that tipsy. Best wishes.

My uncle died this morning.

Sending strength and hope for recovery to you and your family Dan.

I'm sorry Dan, sending good thoughts your way too.

really sorry to hear

xp

Do people wind up being shoved into supposed bubbles with people they can't stand or trust just because of geographical or architectural happenstance. was just wondering.

― Stevolende, Monday, November 23, 2020 4:32 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, hi, roommates

Sorry Dan

good luck Tipsy.
really sorry Dan. this thing is an absolute fucker.

sorry for your loss, Dan

So sorry, Dan. Sending out love to you and your family.

obviously in this context, I read about three paragraphs of this and went into a blinding rage:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/avi-liberman-frequent-travel-coronavirus/index.html

Oh Dan, I’m so sorry xx

My condolences, Dan.

Do people wind up being shoved into supposed bubbles with people they can't stand or trust just because of geographical or architectural happenstance. was just wondering.

― Stevolende, Monday, November 23, 2020

i.e. relationships

Sorry, tipsy. Condolences, Dan.

So sorry about your uncle, Dan.

So sorry to hear, Dan. Love to your and your family.

Aw, man. Condolences to the Danoverse. Hope and strength to everyone out there going through this storm.

i'm so sorry dan

horrible news, so sorry. what an endless, shitty year.

Sorry about your uncle, Dan.

Sorry for your and your family's loss, Dan.

fuck :(. I'm so sorry, Dan