ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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electricity, not energy xp

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:32 (five years ago)

Someone asked me to sign a petition to get JC restored to the Labour whip.

Is this a good thing?

My instinct is that JC is better off without these wankers and KS should deal with the problems of his own making.


i think everyone (all sides, and obv the hacks) would be a lot better off if they stopped making corbyn the centre of everything they write and think.

by “lot better off” i mean in terms of idk... political probity? (which is absurd but hopefully ykwim). clearly a thing you can keep hitting to generate coins is going to be v difficult to wean people off (people here = hacks, tories, labour right).

But for the Labour left it’s all up side.

There probably is some EHRC due process to be gone through with some of the things that happened under his watch, and detaching the future of socialism in Labour from corbyn would be sensible as wd embracing the EHRC report imo.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:36 (five years ago)

🐦[I’ve read the full 46 page report from the National Audit Office on PPE procurement and it’s a doozy.

This government has awarded over 1300 PPE contracts without any competition, for a total of £10 billion.

This is corruption to the core. pic.twitter.com/8A9gqXArIX🕸
— Dr Meenal Viz (@meenalsworld) November 18, 2020🕸]🐦


i mean to this point, as twitter has pointed out, hacks dementedly still going on about an *ex* leader of the *opposition* while serious and blatant corruption (fast tracking politically connecting ppe bids) by the government is happening ripe for a proper exposé and a press to do its fuckin job to chase and snap and not let go...

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:39 (five years ago)

i love how the NAO are just like 'we have literally done the work for you'

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:01 (five years ago)

helen lewis is just fucking awful. i realise this doesn’t contribute much bu

i love how the NAO are just like 'we have literally done the work for you'


right?!

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:04 (five years ago)

it makes me really wish in understood how newsrooms editorial boards etc worked. like how has consent manufactured itself so homogenously that the obvious main story is just flapping about in the wind, unloved?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:10 (five years ago)

All journalists get pavlovian boners on hearing the words "Jermy Crobyn"

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

All this the week the Labour Islamophobia report has also been published eh.

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:37 (five years ago)

The problem with the "let's move this away from Corbyn" stance is what makes you think they'll stop at Corbyn? "Let's move this away from Labour" might be a more sustainable position.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:20 (five years ago)

That’s correct. This has never been about Corbyn or his mistakes. Thirteen socialist MPs (or twelve and Rayner) are currently under investigation following complaints from the CST. We can expect these tactics to be used indefinitely, as they are now, to target the rest of the SCG, socialists on the NEC, prospective councillors and MPs, etc, etc,

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:35 (five years ago)

Jenrick is currently highlighting that four of Starmer’s current shadow communities team alone have had complaints raised against them by the Campaign Against Antisemitism - and why not? Why would he stop?

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:48 (five years ago)

The defence of the realm is the first duty of government.

We are investing an extra £16.5 billion in defence to end the era of retreat, strengthen our Armed Forces, and extend British influence as a force for good in the world 🇬🇧 https://t.co/SWRzM8Pdhu pic.twitter.com/j9EARz2DV9

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) November 19, 2020

the magic money tree is blooming

not sure what the "era of retreat" is, don't remember us being in any wars where we weren't the aggressor lately

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:53 (five years ago)

next time China dismissively treats the UK like an insignificant little gadfly they can threaten to invade them lol!

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:00 (five years ago)

jeez ...imagine the widespread media indignation if Corbyn had been systematically purging all his factional rivals.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:02 (five years ago)

Era of retreat? They surely can't mean all the swingeing cuts on the Armed Forces carried out by Tory governments most of the current cabinet served in.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:06 (five years ago)

maybe they should be thinking about some PIP reforms so some of these soldiers that come back with PTSD (no doubt from the trauma of retreating!) and get ejected onto the streets by an austerity welfare state get some help maybe? Without getting all Help Our Heroes about it, going into the army seems to be a good way of ultimately getting into the homeless street begging sector.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:15 (five years ago)

The soft left.

Politicised Labour process let Corbyn back in, says Anneliese Dodds https://t.co/k2z5K9AdAe

— Guardian politics (@GdnPolitics) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:32 (five years ago)

what an absolute Dudd, it will also be part of a politicised Labour when Kieth gets rid of her because she's so crap!

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:35 (five years ago)

process

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:36 (five years ago)

I mean fancy that, even the leaders DID selections were part of a politicised process.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:45 (five years ago)

Brexit catching Covid is exactly what today needed

stet, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:58 (five years ago)

There's nothing the PLP could do to more effectively torpedo faith in the independence of a new review board than advertising the conclusions it will be required to make in advance.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:21 (five years ago)

Back to Jeff and the boys in the Political Football studio for updates on the Starmer-Corbyn derby, where it sounds like Margaret Hodge has taken the game by the scruff of the neck... pic.twitter.com/IQs60ArmD8

— TheIainDuncanSmiths (@TheIDSmiths) November 18, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:54 (five years ago)

beat me to it

nashwan, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:56 (five years ago)

cheap lousy maggot

"Why have a minister for women, but not for men?"

Speaking in the International Men's Day debate, Conservative Ben Bradley says "can we ensure equality means just that, rather than positive discrimination at the expense of certain groups"

Watch: https://t.co/fci0RxYjAp pic.twitter.com/79MkEWm9wi

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) November 19, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:39 (five years ago)

why don't we ever have a white history week asks Ben Bradley

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:47 (five years ago)

the right honourable member for Mansfailed

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:55 (five years ago)

Why isn't there a member from Womansfield

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:54 (five years ago)

She-ffield has several members!

imago, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:57 (five years ago)

just heard Kieth boldly praising the government's "reboot the Empire" initiative then trying to criticize him in that stupid voice for not describing our new space navy forensically enough

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:29 (five years ago)

oh and Crombone's lawyers are challenging his suspension

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:45 (five years ago)

Lollolol

Holy shit, he's doing it https://t.co/sSHoVceOVD

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:49 (five years ago)

I heard Nandy earlier complaining that Boris needs to cut the armed forces budget to build more drones rather than the cutting the foreign aid budget. Of course we need continue giving aid to poor countries and project more soft power before we start bombing them or supplying the weapons to bomb them to other rogue regimes. Labour are a fucking mess.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:50 (five years ago)

omg I've never felt so much goodwill towards lawyers as I do towards Jez's rn. Take 'em to the fucking cleaners lads.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:51 (five years ago)

tbh getting your lawyers to ask for clarification on a procedural point is a long way from taking them to court but good luck to him.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:59 (five years ago)

A misleading and unhelpful intervention from @AnnelieseDodds. ⁰⁰The panel was chosen by Party officials who report to the General Secretary and the panel was staffed primarily by supporters of Starmer. If it was politicised it could only have been done by Starmer or his allies https://t.co/UJF3KL7Vev

— Momentum 🌹 (@PeoplesMomentum) November 19, 2020

Momentum tell Dudds to reel her neck in and stop misrepresenting a situation she seems to know nothing about.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:04 (five years ago)

Corbyn’s suspension is apparently for three months, per Sienna Rodgers. Seems bizarre to indicate that he should have been expelled permanently from the party if that’s the case.

I’d guess some are hoping the other investigation into the former shadow cabinet gets heard under the new board and expels him then but there is a strong ‘making it up as they go along’ vibe.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:09 (five years ago)

They're obviously writing off Islington North for the foreseeable future because as long as Corbyn's still standing they haven't a hope in hell of winning it. Scotland's gone, the North and Midlands is gone, let's lose London next. Great stuff.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:19 (five years ago)

I'm really looking forward to finally being one of these aprocyphal "voices on the doorstep" that tell campaigners: I can't possibly vote for Labour with Joromy Crumblyn that tory cunt who has follow-throughs in his troosers leading them.

calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:30 (five years ago)

Well well look at what we have here

This latest YouGov poll reported in @NationCymru has independence on 33%. The fourth poll in a row to show support for #IndyWales on 32-33%. Support is solidifying. Here's the historical trend in a graph (which anyone's welcome to pinch).https://t.co/ApEEABacxu pic.twitter.com/kGVIXCmlKC

— Math 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Wiliam (@MathGW) November 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 November 2020 00:25 (five years ago)

Lab to lose Wales next!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 November 2020 00:26 (five years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnQFTo6XIAAf4IK?format=jpg&name=large

dexy's then the pogues. good couple of days for 80's music biz veterans twitter accounts... less said about boab the better!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 08:17 (five years ago)

a pro-Corbyn "gang of three" Labour councillors have quit in Hudds which has torpedoed their wafer thin majority! I didn't realise there actually were councillors with a backbone .. amazing!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 08:32 (five years ago)

That guy Lee is the former head of editorial at Faber responsible for all the music books. A writer on his list invited me to a launch party for their new book and I watched Lee spend the entire night not speaking to any of the female critics and editors there. Just to make sure I wasn’t hallucinating a vibe, I checked with my friend J, who grew up with Dave Peace (also published by Lee at the time). J is a fashion gay and he actually stopped going to Dave’s launches because Lee was such a laddish twat he couldn’t unsee the effortless sexism (and had to wonder if dude was quietly homophobic too).

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2020 08:52 (five years ago)

People who vehemently despise Corbyn rather than just indifferent or not particularly a fan usually are wrong 'uns.

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:08 (five years ago)

https://www.faber.co.uk/blog/an-open-letter-to-morrissey/

||||||||, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:21 (five years ago)

just listened to what KS had to say about his Orange Juice pick on DID. nothing. reminds him of university and he still plays it from time to time.

koogs, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:41 (five years ago)

boss level crashing bore alert!

calzino, Friday, 20 November 2020 09:51 (five years ago)

Just a typical DID guest, some middle aged bore who has never had the slightest interest in music beyond a few years in his late teens/early 20s when he had to fit in with the crowd at uni before settling down to his boring life.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Friday, 20 November 2020 09:58 (five years ago)

To give him the tiniest sliver of credit, he’s a classically trained ex-Guildhall student and Norman Cook said he was schmindie at school. But his answers were super-boring and there was no follow-up by Lauren.

scampopo (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2020 10:03 (five years ago)


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