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The whip situation is going to be interesting. Starmer at least had the option of claiming the suspension was not down to him (which he repeatedly bungled), he doesn’t have that luxury here.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:12 (five years ago)

lol I had dream last night that Starmer was playing for the RoI football team and I was part of a crowd yelling abuse/taking the piss out of him and he came over and gave us a stern finger-wagging lecture about how those that don't do anything are always the first to mock in his Kermit voice!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:18 (five years ago)

just about every amateur epidemiologist in the pub (if they were open) mostly know basic maths and also know the Rona has a roughly 1 % fatality rate, but daft Toby Young seems to have added an extra decimal place in his mind if not in his post which has made him look incredibly thick. I know he left school with no qualifications and I'm the same, but for this fucker to be so patently dumb and also a fan of eugenics with a history of sneery disablist comments is too much for me.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:19 (five years ago)

James Schneider on R4 saying in effect the whip is already restored with the restoration of Labour Party membership.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:21 (five years ago)

xp
in fact the fule posted it as 0.1% which would make the fatality rate 10 ten times worse than it is lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:25 (five years ago)

lol it's funny remembering that the piss boiling today is what it used to be like every day when Corbz was leader

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 08:28 (five years ago)

Not even just a retweet will do for LK here, got to have the index finger of implicit endorsement.

👇🏼 https://t.co/1L4yfJ6tDZ

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) November 17, 2020

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:23 (five years ago)

I also often point at Neil Coyle

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:29 (five years ago)

🖕🏻

||||||||, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:32 (five years ago)

the moment he doesn't give the media what they want - maximum ritual humiliation of the left - he gets doorstepped. Unbelievable https://t.co/JUrYe3HopD

— tom (@malaiseforever) November 18, 2020

lol I'm enjoying seeing this fucking tool getting doorstepped way too much!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:45 (five years ago)

The offence of “bringing the party into disrepute” was designed to give leaders a blank cheque for expulsions says @stephenkb but a “make it up as you go along” approach to Labour’s disciplinary process is exactly why it was unprepared for its crisis on AS https://t.co/VJzetgrq4l

— Jon Lansman (@jonlansman) November 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:17 (five years ago)

People are saying court case but aren't ppl assuming Corbyn would actually go through with this?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:18 (five years ago)

Very amusing about the dream about Kermit playing international soccer. But why for Ireland?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:19 (five years ago)

He's said that he's not restoring the whip, now.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:23 (five years ago)

xp

sometimes your dream logic is chaotic and makes no sense, a bit like kieth's leadership skillz right now!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:27 (five years ago)

Starmer, as leader, cannot interfere in the complaints process, as per EHRC report. He shouldn't be saying anything about it, unless he doesn't want to implement that report and it's recommendations.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:29 (five years ago)

falling asleep with R4 on and having taken some Rhodiolia Rosea (artic root) guarantees me crazy long REM state dreams every time.
xxp

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:30 (five years ago)

He's said that he's not restoring the whip, now.

― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:23 (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Leadership by press reaction.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:53 (five years ago)

I wish he'd have mentioned this pathetically rudderless and reactive type of leadership was going to be his thing at the hustings in February, the worthless piece of shit,

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:57 (five years ago)

The most bizarre Labour meme I've seen today is the Corbynista left calling Keir Starmer "Keith". Any explanation?

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) November 18, 2020

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:58 (five years ago)

I'm not sure Corbyn has much to gain from going to court. He'd likely be re-elected as an independent if Labour chose to run someone against him at the next election.

I find it difficult to imagine Starmer backing down on this now. He's much more comfortable picking a huge, unnecessary fight with the left and cementing the idea that he's an unscrupulous, hypocritical, stitch-up merchant, than he is with appearing weak in front of the press. There's likely to be a flood of complaints against members and MPs standing in solidarity with Corbyn that'll just prolong this even further.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:59 (five years ago)

vacillating between being a compromising triangulator who manages to piss off nearly everybody and pretending to look tough by inflexibly sticking to bad decisions you've made is such a winning combination, Keith you champ you!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:05 (five years ago)

Best answer to Kieth question

"I think you'd understand it if Labour were 20 points ahead."

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:06 (five years ago)

It's funny that the professional Payne person has just seen a 'Keith' meme for the first time -- but then TBH, as Ride once sang, I don't know where it comes from either.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:47 (five years ago)

It always reminds me of "Hey Keith!" at the start of The Damned's cover of I Feel Alright.

Also (former?) ilxor Keith, who is a much better Keith.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:55 (five years ago)

lol, they have Steve Reed, of all people, doing the rounds to criticise the NEC decision.

This Steve Reed? pic.twitter.com/Z2Hzx7tfNF

— Liam Gallagher (@liamtgallagher) November 18, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:06 (five years ago)

Just woke up, have I missed anything funny?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:10 (five years ago)

Kieth has now declared himself a friend of all terrorists and is getting some RA tats

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:16 (five years ago)

Excellent, up the ra

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:19 (five years ago)

Next Islington North by-election to be completed by Labour, New Labour, Real Labour, Provisional Labour and Continuity Labour.

And won by Tories.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:22 (five years ago)

🤔🤔🤔

Powered by the wind turbines of Scotland and the North East, propelled by electric cars made in the Midlands and advanced by tech developed in Wales, my 10 point plan will drive forward a Green Industrial Revolution, creating jobs across the country. https://t.co/98ZbUFZzrT pic.twitter.com/CwXmaxM1R3

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) November 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:52 (five years ago)

Nothing about Heathrow I notice

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:05 (five years ago)

i feel bad when actual human beings lose their job but at the same time it's kinda nice watching airlines go to the wall

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:06 (five years ago)

That Liam Gallagher?

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:57 (five years ago)

Offshore wind: Producing enough offshore wind to power every home, quadrupling how much we produce to 40GW by 2030

There is already the capacity to power every home from Scotland's wind. Every Scottish home, that is.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:02 (five years ago)

the tories have such a good record with not frittering away Scottish resources on consumer bubbles. I honestly can't why'd there would be any cynicism towards a lot of wind!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:16 (five years ago)

Someone asked me to sign a petition to get JC restored to the Labour whip.

Is this a good thing?

My instinct is that JC is better off without these wankers and KS should deal with the problems of his own making.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:57 (five years ago)

There is already the capacity to power every home from Scotland's wind. Every Scottish home, that is.

Curious that they're expecting the country they claim is so economically weak and lacking in resources and resourcefulness it couldn't survive without handouts from Westminster, and they don't think is deserving of even the skimpiest self-governance, to light their fucking houses for them.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:15 (five years ago)

The figures for 2019 were 90.1% of energy in Scotland came from renewables compared to 37.9% for the UK as a whole (inc. Scotland).

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:31 (five years ago)

I've read the full 46 page report from the National Audit Office on PPE procurement and it's a doozy.

This government has awarded over 1300 PPE contracts without any competition, for a total of £10 billion.

This is corruption to the core. pic.twitter.com/8A9gqXArIX

— Dr Meenal Viz (@meenalsworld) November 18, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:31 (five years ago)

electricity, not energy xp

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:32 (five years ago)

Someone asked me to sign a petition to get JC restored to the Labour whip.

Is this a good thing?

My instinct is that JC is better off without these wankers and KS should deal with the problems of his own making.


i think everyone (all sides, and obv the hacks) would be a lot better off if they stopped making corbyn the centre of everything they write and think.

by “lot better off” i mean in terms of idk... political probity? (which is absurd but hopefully ykwim). clearly a thing you can keep hitting to generate coins is going to be v difficult to wean people off (people here = hacks, tories, labour right).

But for the Labour left it’s all up side.

There probably is some EHRC due process to be gone through with some of the things that happened under his watch, and detaching the future of socialism in Labour from corbyn would be sensible as wd embracing the EHRC report imo.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:36 (five years ago)

🐦[I’ve read the full 46 page report from the National Audit Office on PPE procurement and it’s a doozy.

This government has awarded over 1300 PPE contracts without any competition, for a total of £10 billion.

This is corruption to the core. pic.twitter.com/8A9gqXArIX🕸
— Dr Meenal Viz (@meenalsworld) November 18, 2020🕸]🐦


i mean to this point, as twitter has pointed out, hacks dementedly still going on about an *ex* leader of the *opposition* while serious and blatant corruption (fast tracking politically connecting ppe bids) by the government is happening ripe for a proper exposé and a press to do its fuckin job to chase and snap and not let go...

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:39 (five years ago)

i love how the NAO are just like 'we have literally done the work for you'

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:01 (five years ago)

helen lewis is just fucking awful. i realise this doesn’t contribute much bu

i love how the NAO are just like 'we have literally done the work for you'


right?!

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:04 (five years ago)

it makes me really wish in understood how newsrooms editorial boards etc worked. like how has consent manufactured itself so homogenously that the obvious main story is just flapping about in the wind, unloved?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:10 (five years ago)

All journalists get pavlovian boners on hearing the words "Jermy Crobyn"

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

All this the week the Labour Islamophobia report has also been published eh.

nashwan, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:37 (five years ago)

The problem with the "let's move this away from Corbyn" stance is what makes you think they'll stop at Corbyn? "Let's move this away from Labour" might be a more sustainable position.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:20 (five years ago)

That’s correct. This has never been about Corbyn or his mistakes. Thirteen socialist MPs (or twelve and Rayner) are currently under investigation following complaints from the CST. We can expect these tactics to be used indefinitely, as they are now, to target the rest of the SCG, socialists on the NEC, prospective councillors and MPs, etc, etc,

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:35 (five years ago)


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