GET OUT: US politics November 2020

Rudy, at one point, accidentally suggests a FAR MORE LENIENT TEST FAVORING THE STATE because he doesn't understand what's going on. The judge, who is honest, corrects him and gently redirects him to the general vicinity of what he should be talking about.

— LastThanksgivingHat (@Popehat) November 17, 2020

“If I conclude that rational basis applies, why don’t they satisfy that standard?”

Rudy: “how is this rational?”

That isn’t the answer Rudy.

— Raffi Melkonian (@RMFifthCircuit) November 17, 2020

both melkonian and popehat's livetweets are v v entertaining

xps Can't Shelton's nomination be put forward again once Grassley and Rick Scott return from quarantine? Then McConnell could change his vote back to yes and it would be 50-50 with Pence as tiebreaker. Or is there not enough time?

Sorry last one

Rudy: how is it "RATIONAL" to have different standards?

Jesus this is like a bad Death Wish remake where a feeble old man is getting beaten up by hoodlums

— LastThanksgivingHat (@Popehat) November 17, 2020

he's really gone isn't he -- is it dementia? WTF is wrong with Rudy?

Coup alert https://t.co/fHXJa3Weqj

— 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚎 (@resisterhood) November 17, 2020

Rudy has moved past failing the "adequate advocate" test and is rounding the bend on failing the man woman person camera tv test.

— LastThanksgivingHat (@Popehat) November 17, 2020

lol this is very enjoyable to follow itt, thanks all

Xxxpost Doesn't this suggest that the certifying is going to happen regardless?

A county board that fails to canvass within 14 days after the election must give all of its documentation to the Secretary of State's office and Board of State Canvassers, which then has 10 days to complete the work and canvass and certify the results, according to the board’s canvassing manual.

Thanks Neanderthal, was just trying to find out more about what happens next with that.

Yeah from the articles I read, it's another punt. A temporary "win" that really does nothing but delay inevitable.

Also WI finished their canvass without issue...woohoo!

as Chuck Grassley (87) announces + test for COVID, a fellow gerontocrat tempts fate:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), without a mask, walks through the corridor before today's Facebook/Twitter CEO hearing. pic.twitter.com/lYTVMEa3Dw

— The Recount (@therecount) November 17, 2020

there were another 2755 votes found to be not uploaded in Fayette County GA that shifted the vote slightly in Trump's direction, but Biden is still winning by ~13,000, and most of the recount has been completed now

Yeah it was never going to change the victory. However, that error in that county is abnormally large and should be scrutinized. Someone should lose their job over it.

Judge Brann tells the plaintiffs that they need a new motion for an injunction since they have a such a different amended complaint.

"You should write this down. That's what lawyers do. They write things down."

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 17, 2020

as Chuck Grassley (87) announces + test for COVID, a fellow gerontocrat tempts fate

fingers crossed!

Lol xpost

“What standard of review should I apply?”

Rudy: “The normal one.”

"I move for a bad court ... thingy"

Even i vaguely know what the two levels of scrutiny are

Smooth and Crunchy?

We're never going to have a normal election again, will we?

Btw, Georgia found other instances of vote counts that weren't uploaded from memory card. We're now talking like between 5,000 -7,500

Only netted Trump about a thousand more votes but... optically, that isn't good. It does helpfully illustrate why Trump has no chance though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntvEDbagAw

it sounds like Judge Brann is being too indulgent, but maybe he's just wanting them to know that their insane concerns are being heard before he dismisses the case.

the quotes from Aronchick have been otm. this has to end somewhere

i think it's the judge going thru the motions of assuming Rudy/the campaign as rational actors (which is how we got into this mess in the first place) so they can dismiss, yes.

as/are

Only netted Trump about a thousand more votes but... optically, that isn't good. It does helpfully illustrate why Trump has no chance though.

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:45 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

any chance this can push david perdue over 50%? that would be bad.

Hmm not sure

as far as I know, they aren't recounting the other races besides president

if you can't apply the normal standard of review - try a butt one

Lol

Chuck Todd stating Trump refusing to concede after Georgia recount would result in a Constitutional crisis. Even though "conceding" is just a dumb formality so it quite literally wouldn't be a constitutional crisis

white flight, the electoral strategy

The Republican chair of the board, Monica Palmer, literally just said she would be open to certifying the vote in "communities other than Detroit" https://t.co/YQqRmIABOI

— Nancy Kaffer (@nancykaffer) November 17, 2020

Chuck Todd knows shit about constitutional crises.

It’s really something to watch them pour that extra layer of straight up racism on top in Wayne County. Shameful.

Chuck Todd stating Trump refusing to concede after Georgia recount would result in a Constitutional crisis. Even though "conceding" is just a dumb formality so it quite literally wouldn't be a constitutional crisis

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:53 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Twelfth Amendment "concession clause" requires the outgoing president to put on the concession hat and say "I renounce I renounce I renounce" in order for a new president to be sworn in

regarding the Wayne County stand-off

Xxxpost Doesn't this suggest that the certifying is going to happen regardless?

A county board that fails to canvass within 14 days after the election must give all of its documentation to the Secretary of State's office and Board of State Canvassers, which then has 10 days to complete the work and canvass and certify the results, according to the board’s canvassing manual.

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 17, 2020

from what I can see though, the Board of State Canvassers is also split 2-2 Democratic/Republican?

Is there going to be anyone left for him to fire by January?

so are the Republicans just going to do this every election from now on?

Only the ones they lose.

Other than it being absolutely petty and batshit, like most of his firings, can anyone tell me why people on Twitter seem to be exceptionally worried about the firing of Krebs?

I guess because he is saying the election was not rigged, and he is in a position to know.

this was an interesting article about him yesterday:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/us/politics/christopher-krebs-election-security-trump.html

Yeah, that’s why I assumed this was a petty Tantrump for hurting his feeling, but people seem to be more put out by this particular one than I expected.

people seem to be more put out by this particular one than I expected

They're just really sick of his shit at this point.

I've never understood why the US has such a damn long transition period. In most countries, the old administration is out within a couple of weeks, sometimes within a couple of days

I think it's more alarming to the GOP, who are trying to appease their dictator-on-training-wheels, even as he continues to throw more gasoline on the fire.

Obviously there's concern any time a President continually fires people who stand up to him and replace him with loyalists, but I suspect us on the left are numb to it by now.

GOP Senators are now probably holding an emergency meaning to try and figure out a way to wag their finger at Trump as mildly as possible to avoid getting death threats.

Re: Michigan, I mean, I presume other counties have similar make-up and didn't deadlock. But...

It is unclear what would happen if the state board reaches the same partisan deadlock. Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, suggested in a statement Tuesday night that she could use her powers overseeing the statewide Bureau of Election to get the results from Wayne County certified.

“In similar circumstances in the past, state canvassers have appointed the Bureau of Elections to carry out the processes of canvassing the vote and voter totals,” Benson said. “The Bureau stands ready to fulfill this duty and we expect this will address clerical errors and improve the quality of the canvass overall.”

Follow up to my question ("so are the Republicans just going to do this every election from now on?"), does that mean the Democrats are also going to have to do this shit from now on? The 2000 election, for example, could have *easily* gone to Gore if they went full dick-mode, like these assholes are doing.

These are things i don't want to become normalized

I've never understood why the US has such a damn long transition period. In most countries, the old administration is out within a couple of weeks, sometimes within a couple of days