GET OUT: US politics November 2020

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Hello from my dining table, where I'll be covering the 1:30pm hearing in the Trump campaign's case in federal court in PA seeking to block certification of the election results.

Background on where things stand for Trump in this case and in PA generally: https://t.co/7rltlF4Xue

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) November 17, 2020

lol they're in Williamsport?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/us/politics/giuliani-trump-election-pay.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Rudolph W. Giuliani, who has helped oversee a string of failed court challenges to President Trump’s defeat in the election, asked the president’s campaign to pay him $20,000 a day for his legal work, multiple people briefed on the matter said.

The request stirred opposition from some of Mr. Trump’s aides and advisers, who appear to have ruled out paying that much, and it is unclear how much Mr. Giuliani will ultimately be compensated.

Since Mr. Giuliani took over management of the legal effort, Mr. Trump has suffered a series of defeats in court and lawyers handling some of the remaining cases have dropped out.

A $20,000-a-day rate would have made Mr. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who has been Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer for several years, among the most highly compensated attorneys anywhere.

Rowdy Rudy won't even get out of bed for less.

America's Grifter

What if he’s only the lawyer for a couple hours though

Holy shit the judge threw out the entire election

Lol psyche

Lol psyche: US politics November 2020

About the $20,000 a day for Rudy: Totally worth it, IMO.

I will help the Trump campaign pay Rudy's fee on one condition: so long as he is the _only_ attorney working on these lawsuits.

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Rudy is asking for the cancellation of hundreds of thousands of votes moments after talking about the importance of the right to vote.

This feels like a moment:

The Judge says he intentionally did not allow Pennsylvania counsel to withdraw because he has "some questions."

— Raffi Melkonian (@RMFifthCircuit) November 17, 2020

Xpost Wait no. 1.5 million votes

A nice round number arrived at by black magic.

Actual lol imaging Rudy trying to shove some printed memes from Reddit into the judge’s hands https://t.co/7KXen5pBJK

— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) November 17, 2020

Your honor; may I approach the bench?

Rudy, we c- Rudy. Rudy, stop. This is a chain email and the Facebook logo is visible on the side of one of the embedded .bmp screenshots which is attached

Your honor, do I have your permission to freestyle at length?

It's so fucking weird and surreal that Giuliani was once a US Attorney for the SDNY. I guess I'm so overloaded with weird and surreal things about this administration that sometimes I forget that one, but it's so hard to fathom that he once practiced law on a fairly high level and even gained renown for it.

What is it about these ghoulish freaks that they refuse to retire.

Please tell me this is all being filmed for posterity.

Rudy reminds me of the positively ancient partners at my old job who feebly trailed behind assistants in the cafeteria who assembled their lunch for them because they were too infirm to do it for themselves. I always wondered what value there was in them continuing to come into the office.

"I'm out of order? I'm out of order? YOUR'RE out of order!"

It's so weird not really knowing anything about Rudy at all until 9/11, when he was being hailed like a hero on SNL and shit, then to see him pop back up as this completely incompetent, bumbling freak. I'm assuming he was always the latter, but he managed to not shit the bed after 9/11 enough to make him seem like a good leader, but maybe NYC folks can disabuse me of that assumption.

at least part of rudy's big time career was federal prosecutor which if you are bad at your job you will win 98% of the time

bummer the court feed went out, was looking forward to more lolz

https://i.imgflip.com/33wmg1.jpg

i enjoyed this maybe u will too

https://defector.com/these-people-are-morons/

goddamn how is jared kushner a real person lol

irl lol Albert

Old Lunch, here's some audio

https://www.twitch.tv/imstill87x

Kushner always looks like someone who just woke up with fang marks on his jugular.

calm down, sailor

Old Lunch thank you for your service

irl lol Albert

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:15 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ditto

🚨BREAKING: Trump and his allies have just lost their 25th court case. This time in the PA Supreme Court.

They are now 1-25.

More details soon...

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) November 17, 2020

Here's the PA Supreme Court's 5-2 majority opinion rejecting the Trump Campaign's claim that Republican observers didn't get "meaningful access" to watch the vote counting https://t.co/uGkm9YjQ5G pic.twitter.com/hRS100bfOf

— Mike Sacks (@MikeSacksEsq) November 17, 2020

The decision was 5-2 but...

The decision was 5–2 because two justices wouldn't have even decided the case, preferring to rule that it is moot. The principal dissent also explicitly says that throwing out valid ballots would not be an appropriate remedy anyway. This is a total loss for the Trump campaign. https://t.co/BYJ1xThkxQ

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) November 17, 2020

Funny how it works

An interesting scene on the Senate floor when several GOP senators congratulated Kamala Harris (most Rs still siding with Trump in his fight over election.)

Sens. Tim Scott, Mike Rounds, James Lankford all congratulated her, as did Ben Sasse. Lindsey Graham gave her a fist bump

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) November 17, 2020

fuck you Lindsey Graham

It's so weird not really knowing anything about Rudy at all until 9/11, when he was being hailed like a hero on SNL and shit, then to see him pop back up as this completely incompetent, bumbling freak. I'm assuming he was always the latter, but he managed to not shit the bed after 9/11 enough to make him seem like a good leader, but maybe NYC folks can disabuse me of that assumption.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:04 (fifty-five minutes ago) link

He's also credited with bringing down all the NYC mob bosses. Different time.

There's even a new Netflix documentary about that! I've been morbidly curious.

I can’t speak on his competency as a lawyer, but Rudy was always a fucking asshole.

The partners were known to hate Giuliani. His job was literally to smoke cigars with clients. https://t.co/MPFZcL0uPC

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) November 17, 2020

*sheds a tear for Dr Morbius*

BTW the right-wing "it's 6D chess" line is that they always intended to lose these initial cases, and lose them quickly; the objective is to lose in lower courts so that you can appeal to higher ones, presumably ending with the Trumpian Supreme Court.

Narrator: that's not how this works; that's not how any of this works

"losing = winning" is a remarkably consistent philosophy for them

It's kind of funny how "Throw out all Joe Biden's ballots" isn't quite the winning legal strategy they envisioned.

Rudy Giuliani is among the worst people alive afaic.