GET OUT: US politics November 2020

we as a nation are pretty lucky that, against all odds, this georgia secretary of state has some integrity

I mean, we all know about the ladybugs, but the guy must be a real sub, subjecting himself to so much shame. I'm starting to think he gets off on it.

apparently, on a hand recount, Floyd County GA (Rome) found that they had undercounted by ~2700 votes

“there were an additional 1,643 votes for Republican President Donald Trump, 865 for Democrat President-elect Joe Biden and 16 for Libertarian Jo Jorgensen.” https://t.co/2YmgORt2PD

— stephen fowler covers Georgia's election! (@stphnfwlr) November 16, 2020

welp, we're never gonna hear the end of that as long as we live

I mean, that's no big deal, but jesus christ that is all we are going to hear for months on end now.

I mean... that's the literal purpose of a recount. Though that's a huge error for an individual county to make

What if ... there wasn't fraud before but *now* there's fraud? I demand a recount of the recount!

Floyd Co is Marjorie TayTay Green country l

lol

it doesn't come close to changing the results, and so far it doesn't seem like there have been other problems with the recount

I just don't see the whining turning off any worthwhile chunk of the deluded MAGAs at this point--very much corroborated by some right-wing radio out of Buffalo I heard on the way home this afternoon. Voting machines out of Venezuela, "100,000-vote drops" (two of them), one of Trump's lawyers who's "got the goods," a host who "doesn't want" civil war but is predicting it...utter lunacy.

To be fair, Venezuela.

yeah these assholes don't know how to do anything other than double down

Pretty sure they have a passing familiarity.

https://paxholley.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/kfc-double-down.jpg?w=584

"moist mayo" {shudders uncontrollably}

donnie 1term double cheddarburgers

2scoops 1term

lol

nice

I was in the local KFC a couple of weeks ago and saw they had those bunless burgers in. Maybe should have got one. Don't remember actually seeing them advertised this side of the Atlantic but not often in KFC.
So maybe I missed the chance to mess up my diet.

I was in the local KFC a couple of weeks ago

stop right there

Great success etc

BREAKING: Trump-backing election conspiracy theorists cannot revive their lawsuit.

Appeal DENIED in Michigan.

Background, @LawCrimeNews: https://t.co/QcAkJd0Cr8 pic.twitter.com/v5fgpEJSqX

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 16, 2020

No appeal either.

Meanwhile in PA

It's been 20 years since my clerkship and my bar license has been inactive for a while now, but even I know that when the judge explicitly calls out the time at which your motion for a continuance was filed, said motion is getting denied and said judge is *not* happy. https://t.co/Sjl26Ve4ch

— Marc Channick (@Sorry_What_Now) November 17, 2020

that is *tart*

also

Trump's latest lawyer told listeners of his radio show Nov. 7 "in my opinion there really are no bombshells that are about to drop that will derail a Biden presidency, including the lawsuits" and suggested Trump's suits "don't seem to have much evidence." https://t.co/qGUt3Afssv

— Brad Heath (@bradheath) November 17, 2020

It's worth pausing to reflect on the fact that the Trump campaign's suit in Pennsylvania was filed ONE week ago and they are already on their THIRD set of lawyers.

— Alan Feuer (@alanfeuer) November 17, 2020

It just gets better!

From the desk of Sidney Powell, the newest addition to Trump's "legal team" that is trying to overturn the 2020 election. She says the "rigged" election against Trump was part of a larger plot by FBI, CIA, Google and Twitter to commit massive voter fraud in other democracies too. pic.twitter.com/byHsadEKqk

— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) November 17, 2020

#Kraken

dare I ask?

No.

You do understand that it is a powerful strategy to lose in the lower courts, right?

— Skyler Burton (@LapeSkyler) November 17, 2020

he doesn't have the drive or the attention span to build an entire (fake) news network, so OANN is still his better shot there, but let's face it: the best fit is taking over for Stern, with Omarosa in the Robin Quivers role...

― @oneposter (⛰️) (sic), Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:29 PM (six days ago)

NY Daily News: "Howard Stern: If Trump starts a TV network, it’ll fail within a year"

Get this man a yellow pad:

Many Republicans are delicately approaching the issue, aware of how politically-charged the simple arithmetic of the Electoral College has become within the Republican Party.

“I’m working on what I want to say about this topic,” said Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.). “I think I want to wait ... until I get my thoughts cleared on a piece of paper and in my brain.”

Sidney Powell--when I posted yesterday, that was the lawyer who supposedly "had the goods."

Meant to mention the most interesting call. A woman complained that she had nowhere to voice her opinions because Buffalo had nothing but conservative radio, that she cast her first presidential vote for Thomas Dewey, and then she hung up.

Which makes her, what, 92 at least? From encountering him in books, I thought Thomas Dewey was the Republican's arch-conservative stalwart through the FDR era. I'm either misremembering, or she really took a left turn through the decades.

Checked that--I'm misremembering. Taft was the conservative, Dewey the moderate.

wow shocking

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959

a tale as old as time

Read before u post

Biden wants his Justice Department to function independently from the White House, aides said, and Biden isn't going to tell federal law enforcement officials whom or what to investigate or not to investigate.

"His overarching view is that we need to move the country forward," an adviser said. "But the most important thing on this is that he will not interfere with his Justice Department and not politicize his Justice Department."

A third Biden adviser said that when it comes to any Trump-related investigations, the expectation is "it's going to be very situational" and "depending on the merits." Broadly, Biden's priorities will be the economy, the coronavirus, climate change and race relations, not looking back at the Trump administration, an adviser said.

Not saying Trump should get off scot free, but Biden's got a lot of shit on his plate for the first two years of his presidency. He's likely going to focus (as the article states) on coronavirus, getting the economy up and running again, etc. Makes total sense to me. Let the Justice Department sort it out.

if they're already saying this now don't be surprised if it's bupkis down the line xp

Apols if already posted

1/ It turns out that Donald Trump was right: the election was rigged. He would know, of course, because he and Lewis DeJoy were the ones who rigged it.

— Thom Hartmann (@Thom_Hartmann) November 16, 2020

if Biden attacks Trump personally and tells Justice to go after him it's going to be way way worse for the country

Certainly at this point talk of prosecuting Trump is akin to talk of him pardoning himself: for what, exactly? Also, keeps Trump in the news for the possibly brief time Biden will maybe have even a little power. I think there is plenty of Trump stuff in the state pipes, and having a new AG and a fresh DOJ in general will help ensure those gears keep turning.

eh…

I think the NY AG is going to hand that whole family their ass

And that's the way it should be done. This is all speculation, anyway. We don't even know Biden's AG.

God, listening to This American Life this morning, specifically the section where they are interviewing people about the alleged "voter fraud" and I just, good lord, there is no hope of these people ever embracing reality. No matter how much evidence is presented, they just continue doubling down and expanding the definition of who must be lying. It's exhausting.

Points to sign

Give people a choice between a mountain of reality-based evidence, and a whispered hint of a conspiracy that validates their beliefs, prejudices, and victim complexes, and how many will refuse the evidence and embrace the conspiracy? It used to seem like the conspiracy theorists were the fringe 10% at most, but now it’s closer to half the country. Trump has functioned as the GOP’s perfect accelerationist in many ways.

Careful, clearly table doesn't think we are allowed to talk about this, as demonstrated in the usual completely snide and dismissive way that makes this thread end up being so fucking unbearable sometimes.