Gutted!— Jess Phillips MP (@jessphillips) November 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
Was coming here to post that, truly tragic, am sure she’ll have plenty of space on the Spectator/unmissable cow site/The Critic.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 16 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
If I was a well known columnist, and I had accepted a windfall payout as part of company-wide costcutting, I too would probably like to pretend that I quit on principle.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) November 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
you'd have to establish a track record of principles tho
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 November 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em9jDVlW4AEmJ4l?format=png&name=large Owen Jones should sue
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 16 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
lol, of course Jess Phillips is gutted.
― emil.y, Monday, 16 November 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link
Suzanne will be fine.
This thing that the right wing press does of content policing the Guardian is very odd, just very odd indeed https://t.co/VvaKI6OV7F— Simon (@simonk_133) November 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
Get her next!
As a reader, I'm devastated that Suzanne is leaving. As a journalist, I'm shocked that others in my profession believe that differing opinions don't belong in a newspaper. Don't agree with something? Write a column, don't personally abuse the writer or try to shut her down https://t.co/Lb03Q5yECb— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) November 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
John Harris also kicked off. Ofc the problem is deep.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
the idea that being terfy would harm your career at the graun and be a factor in getting paid off seems... fanciful
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 November 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link
Well yes
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
If she has gone because of budget cuts/contract buyout or flounced and is allowing people to say she was hounded out by OJ and/or the ‘trans lobby’ then that’s an extra FRO from me.
― scampopo (suzy), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
Been a Guardian reader for 25 years-ish, and even worked there for about six years (albeit in admin) but I have no idea what a Suzanne Moore column is actually like
Can just about guess from comments though
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 November 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
Hadley F is awful, but they seem to value her for fuck knows what reason.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
i think she's from a super wealthy family which seems a big help getting a column gig at the graun cf toynbee, hyde etc.
― plax (ico), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
it's fun to reflect on the fact that Toynbee's dad unbeknowingly used to often get pukingly drunk (I'm talking 6 bottles of gin here!) and trash rooms with a Soviet agent who was arguably one of most productive of the Cambridge 5 (agent Don Cleanteeth)
― calzino, Monday, 16 November 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link
plz find other kinds of bees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Toynbee#Toynbee_genealogy
― mark s, Monday, 16 November 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
🤮🤮🤮
Sad to say indulgence of TERFism runs deep at the Guardian, and with a fully predictable cast list pic.twitter.com/PHwnidkL1a— Simon (@simonk_133) November 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
it's what you'd expect and more likely about cronyism and centrist wagon-circling than simple antitrans solidarity. but it's a terrible look for the Graun when so many of its "star" writers consistently behave like this.
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
but also this
I can't remember this solidarity for Dawn Foster when she got let go for writing an article critical of Tom Watson— Fred Durst Apologist (@DurstApologist) November 16, 2020
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
sack them all and hire 👇
I’m sorry for the three trans employees who quit The Guardian in the last eighteen months because of the rhetoric being promoted by the paper. To be made to feel unwelcome at work not because of what you believe but because of who you fundamentally are, that’s the real travesty.— shon faye. (@shonfaye) November 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
Is (Fleet Street) journalism the last profession where you can walk out of a job one day and get another job the next? And how does that work when no-one reads newspapers anymore?
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
Other professions where your talents and cv are no impediment from skipping from job to job are politics, football management and company directorships
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
Yes, but some football managers have to wait for the next job and some never find the next job, these fuckers are never out of work.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Monday, 16 November 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
id love a browser extension that filters comment and opinion pieces out. the reporting in the graun is bad enough but its the way the site constantly redirects you to think pieces by people who have never exhibited a capacity to do so that really pushes me over the edge.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:10 (three years ago) link
"If Keir Starmer sticks to his principles, Labour will vote against a Brexit deal"
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:12 (three years ago) link
The app is very good for creating your own guardian bubble. I never see any opinion and mostly read news, food and Blind Date (I can’t tear myself away from that I’m afraid). For me, the Guardian is better than it used to be!
― Madchen, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:22 (three years ago) link
yeah actually i’ve thought this for a while and never done anything about it. your post has prompted me to go and remove a load of sections and also add world news categories for countries and continents.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link
xp I also read Blind Date purely so I can then read the Guyliner writeup.I have a content blocker on Safari for ads etc and it works very well on those Guardian begging messages.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link
lol i enjoy the begging messages! i'm like keep begging terfs lol
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link
Blind Date is good, largely due to the Guyliner (xp gyac OTM!)
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link
Crosswords, Letters and Country Diary here.
― mahb, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link
I stopped buying the graun about a decade ago, but if I had a portable device with a kakuro app on it back then I'd have fucked them off much sooner.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link
xp - I often just go straight to the Guyliner.
― hamicle, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link
I was going to complain about "Harry Styles wore a dress on the cover of Vogue – and US rightwingers lost it" inanity, but then they've slightly redeemed themselves by covering a very valuable topic (to me as a downstairs resident)"Quiet please! How to exercise in an upstairs flat – without annoying your neighbours"
― Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
ilx faves weigh in:
The demonisation of @suzanne_moore by 300 fellow @guardian journalists causing her to leave her job is disturbing. Identity politics is the curse of the modern left. Gifting the right with each 'woke' witch hunt. Difference of opinion is crucial for adult 'political' discourse.— Primal Scream (@ScreamOfficial) November 17, 2020
― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
can't believe Bobby's politics are stuck in an imaginary 1980s
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
just needed "snowflakes" for a bingo
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
also i'm pretty sure the 300+ employees who complained about Moore's work making them feel harassed and unwelcome weren't mostly journalists but y'know, drugs
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
Methinks Bobby and his band have a few skeletons waiting to come out of their collective cupboard.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
Boab's a bit like trevor phillips in a way - a right-wing reactionary blue labour bigot who thinks because they went through a radical lefty spell in the 80's it excuses all sorts of reactionary tory bullshit attitudes they have. And he's probably getting the same fear Nick Cave was getting a few months back, because he probably knows he's done enough to get me-tooed or even put on the sex-offenders register!
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
https://guardian.gyford.com/ is handy if you just want to read today’s paper. The opinion section is in there but it’s all siloed off in one section.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
siloed is le mot juste
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
xp excellent link thank u
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
far less hideous to look at as well
*Such* an great piece. Superb in so many ways. Not the main point, perhaps, but I don't think anyone can drop an immaculately crafted gag (and there are several) into otherwise serious journalism quite like @helenlewis https://t.co/d9K2ty12zg— Tom Peck (@tompeck) November 16, 2020
HL retweets high praise of her article about why women should be allowed more access to aristocratic titles.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
It has taken me a while to come to understand what a terrible person HL really is.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
oh god that article which i didn't read tbf despite HL saying she thoroughly addresses any concerns you might have within it, but the whole premise of that article at least, is one of the biggest pisstakes I've ever seen!
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
I thought it was a very interesting article, describing a curious and bizarre world that I’ve not previously had sight of. I somehow missed the well-crafted gags though.
― Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
alright Helen, I knew you were lurking here somewhere!
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link