toobin out
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
wasn't that the problem in the first place?
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
Probably the only possible thing to do with an employee who jerked it on a work zoom.I’m not allowed to move any accumulated New Yorkers to our new house, oh well.
― The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
wtf, what are you supposed to do with those, recycle them or something?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
I was hoping I can trade them in for one much larger New Yorker
― The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
You could make him write "I will not jerk it on work zoom" 100 times on a blackboard like Bart.
Then fire him, but make him do the blackboard first.
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Ditch the New Yorker, subscribe to the New Worker
still don't understand the logistics of this -- never had a zoom call where anyone's camera was on their crotch
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link
Have you considered that Toobin’s penis might be freakishly long?
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/style/jeffrey-toobin-zoom.html
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link
I think it’s perfectly understandable to fire someone for (in essence) masturbating in view of their colleagues and leave it at that. Being fired from the workplaces where the incident didn’t occur is more eyebrow-raising but also only comes up for rich famous people. Ongoing interest is mostly driven by it still being funny that a famous guy in late middle age had his dick out on a work zoom.
― is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
yes
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link
plus that his name sounds like what he was doing
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link
NYer URLs should all contain (or not) a /print/ section so you know whether to burn a click or wait a week or two
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link
https://www.magazines.com/the-new-yorker-magazine.html$2 an issue is very reasonable imo
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link
For as many people were excoriating Mr. Toobin for lewd and inappropriate behavior in a virtual workplace, others were thinking, or even saying, “there but for the grace of God go I,” acutely conscious of all the private or potentially embarrassing moments they’d stolen in this odd new zone where we now meet our colleagues.
Don’t think God’s intervention is required to not masturbate while on a work video call tbh.
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link
Gladwell's response to this was really fucking primo material
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link
$2 an issue is very reasonable imo
yes but if you already have a print subscription it's annoying to skip a click on the erroneous assumption it will be on paper soon, or to burn one of five clicks on something that turns out to be literally a) two sentences long and b) in the print version one day later
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link
if you have a print subscription you can read stuff online for free
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link
yeah, print = unlimited digital access to current and old issues
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:50 (three years ago) link
but it's better for yr eyes & brain to read on paper
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link
as always sic, an excellent point
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link
I regret being inclusive & considering library and foreign readers by mentioning "burning clicks" obv
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link
p expensive per issue u actually read > 0 pages of tho
― flopson, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 07:37 (three years ago) link
? I have a print subscription so I read online as much as I like
― mother should I build the walmart (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link
fwiw the best price I've seen lately was $132 for two years, which is $66 a year, or, what, about $1.50 an issue? It was via discount mags . com a month ago, but I don't think the deal is currently there.
Best article I've read recently (there have been a bunch!) was the one about the more or less homeless guys paid to housesit vacant homes in LA that are being flipped. Touched on lots of things - race/gentrification, pandemic, fallout from 2007 foreclosures, those big companies that buy up and sit on real estate in places with tight real estate markets, and so on.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
I’ve half-heartedly defended Toobin before since I think it doesn’t seem like he deliberately masturbated on camera, but I don’t think “getting fired” for him is the equivalent of an ordinary person getting fired either and I’m not too worried about him.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
I hate when I accidentally masturbate. Especially on camera.
― The Battle of Taylor Swift's "Evermore" (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
You have to be so careful.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link
Oof, I missed this awkward story:
Toobin had a longtime off-and-on extramarital affair with attorney Casey Greenfield, who is the daughter of American television journalist and author Jeff Greenfield and the ex-wife of screenwriter Matt Manfredi. They had a child in 2009, which Toobin initially resisted acknowledging. Ultimately, Toobin's paternity was confirmed with a DNA test and a Manhattan Family Court judge ordered Toobin to pay child support.
But yeah, dude has written several best-selling books, and they didn't sell because he was a New Yorker staffer.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
genuinely impossible to feel bad for this guy
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
yeah he seems like a shitty dude. I had forgotten that whole deadbeat dad subplot
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
also just a general stalker freak who doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/cnn-jeffrey-toobin-made-shockingly-sexual-proposition-well-known-media-figure-claims-article-1.198127
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
early in the pandemic, someone who works in the same organization as my wife stood up during a Zoom call and wasn't wearing pants. that's a super-embarrassing but reasonably understandable accident. she wasn't fired
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
― flopson, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:37 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mother should I build the walmart (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:33 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
was a joking ref to subscribers to the magazine being notorious for accumulating piles of unread issues (as the OP of this thread)
― flopson, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link
Even Mx. Gessen, who initially found the incident “traumatic,” said they now feel sympathy for Mr. Toobin. “I think it’s tragic that a guy would get fired for really just doing something really stupid,” they said. “It is the Zoom equivalent of taking an inappropriately long lunch break, having sex during it and getting stumbled upon.”
i have many questions about this
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link
how is it "tragic" that "a guy would get fired for doing something really stupid"?That's why people get fired!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
surely the equivalent would be going for a break from a meeting and jacking off in your office and being seen through the door that you left ajar by the people sat in the meeting room
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
poor vanilla ice
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
remember when paul reubens jacked off in an adult theater and was basically kicked out of show business for 20 years
― na (NA), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
don't know how to post this without it immediately seeming like i'm a jeff toobin creep, but
there are ways that you can, pretty innocently, accidentally expose yourself. perhaps toobin, like me, has a big computer monitor that he uses for multiple machines. i have both my mac and work computer plugged into one large screen. it's really useful! sometimes i do picture-in-picture and have work and non-work stuff side-by-side, other times i switch one or the other to full screen.
i haven't read all the toobin details so maybe it's already been embarrassingly and painstakingly revealed (no pun intended) to everyone. but to me, it's plausible that on Work Computer, he's in the New Yorker zoom call and everyone takes a break. he mutes his line, and thinks he mutes his video as well. then he switches to the other screen and decides he's feeling really horny and goes for it. meanwhile, on the other screen, Andy Borowitz is watching in shocked horror and fascination. there are other scenarios, too, that aren't quite as evil and malign as lots of people (here and others) immediately seem to gravitate toward, and all of these scenarios also involve Andy Borowitz, and are thus not funny.
there was a side discussion somewhere about the inappropriateness of jerking off at work. Regardless of your take on that, I think it's fair to argue the lines between work/home are extremely blurred right now. it's not appropriate to watch fast and furious 4 at work, normally. but how many people working from home have movie/tv/music playing in the background? not saying it's the same deal, just saying i'm pretty sure there are a loooooot of people who are doing intimate things during work hours right now.
i'm sure someone will immediately point me to the vanity fair article where it is reported that toobin revealed himself in the most despicable, hurtful, unforgivable way. and based on other links upthread, yeah toobin seems like a likely candidate for getting caught masturbating on zoom. but people do all sorts of things in their homes, and pandemic work is the same location as the home, for many people. i haven't read anything about the toobin incident in weeks, but even the retelling of it by borowitz unnamed eyewitnesses made me think that toobin was doing his masturbation routine and made a tech mistake
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
if you decide that immediately after a work video call is the best time for your "masturbation routine" and you don't first leave the meeting, quit the app, turn your computer off, throw it out the window and buy a new one, then you deserve whatever comes your way.
― ledge, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
again, i think it's fine toobin got fired - that's what happens when you get caught masturbating at work, in general. but i don't think he's a monster for it (unless, again, there are newer details i missed)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
i don't know that anyone is calling him a monster for this particular dumbfuck activity on his part, just that his public shaming and firing are hardly unjustified!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
firing = justifiedpublic shaming = unjustified, imo
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
and i guess i do see "public shaming" and "being a monster" as highly related
like, we don't resort to public shaming for people who accidentally mess up, we reserve it for people like michael vick
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
I think it doesn’t seem like he deliberately masturbated on camera
wasn't the entire point that he was deliberately masturbating on camera, but forgot to log off from one meeting before jacking off on another
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
or "forgot"
i believe that was the version of the story that everyone told themselves, but again, i think it's very possible that what he was doing was very much NOT deliberately masturbating on camera
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link