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i didn't know it was cool to have your cock out these days

It's now called "Toobining."

they don’t make statues of Kierkegaard with a backwards hat

maybe that’s the only way he can be understood tho

every single athletic shoe is ugly.

almost every single shoe, in general is ugly.

shoes are ugly

Disagree. Foot boats can be aesthetically pleasing.

Oh wow

I thought the top bit was the main bit

Fuck

― Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, November 10, 2020 9:53 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's got the main bits though

A Vindication of the Right to Abstain from Pubic Maintenance

fuck that, i don't want pubes in my Cheerios

I think most teenage boys are going to be too busy giggling at the pubes to notice the tits

also before I scrolled up I thought cardamon was talking about shoes

(specifically the Kanye shoes)

pubes and tits in shoes?

yr kid'll never take em off

Calling it now - someone is definitely going to take some green paint and turn those to chiapubes.

on looking at the statue again, it looks less like pubes and more like a second face

_they don’t make statues of Kierkegaard with a backwards hat_

maybe that’s the only way he can be understood tho

Here are three:

a) Starman is Bowie's worst big single of the 70s.

b) Raspberry Beret is Prince's worst big single of the 80s.

c) Of the run: Blue-For the Roses-Court & Spark-Hissing of Summer Lawns-Hejira, Blue is the worst album.

a, this is correct

b, maybe but that's like being the worst painting by Leonardo da Vinci. still pretty frkn great

c, well that's just wrong

a. Maybe, if you don't count UK top-tens "Sorrow" and "Knock On Wood" as big singles

b. It may be my favourite, but I don't call myself a Prince fan

c. I'll agree with that; Blue has a few overly conventional ("Carey", "River") or hookless ("My Old Man", "Last Time I Saw Richard") songs

River is gorgeous

Sorrow is definitely better than Starman

a) they're creepy and they're kooky
b) mysterious and spooky
c) they're all together ookie

I'm gonna just go ahead and say that both "Starman" AND "Life on Mars" are boring and flabby. DB went to this well a few times too often. It remains a mystery to me that the same dude could bring forth those duds, as well as all the lean and clean material from this period.

Blue is unimpeachable, I will not budge on that

disagree with a), though I can't think of an answer that wouldn't be controversial (maybe "Ziggy Stardust" or "Suffragette City" or maybe "Jean Genie"? I like all of these less than starman)

The fuzzy area in this controp/challop batch is the definition of "big single."

For your consideration as long as we're challopsing:

1. Prince was a singles artist who made albums.

2. Bowie was an albums artist who made singles.

I can't think of an answer that wouldn't be controversial

do u know what thread u r in

are you really willing to defend fucking "America" (which I didn't even realise was a single - baffling choice even by that album's standards) as a better song than RB?

there’s an ilm thread for this /threadcop

Ye Mad Puffin, could you give an example of a good Bowie song drawn from the same "well" as the two songs you mention?

hookless ("My Old Man", "Last Time I Saw Richard") songs

wow gotta reverse time so i can unread this

I'd say of her first four albums, the best was her debut. Then there were some growing pains before she started the next phase with For the Roses. I prefer the distanced, observational perspective to the heart-on-sleeve stuff.

Though I love "All I Want".

I can't think of an answer that wouldn't be controversial

do u know what thread u r in

I guess my point is if every possible answer to a question ("what is David Bowie's worst big single of the 70s?") is controversial, then maybe also no answer is controversial

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson) at 5:03 4 Jun 21
hookless ("My Old Man", "Last Time I Saw Richard") songs
wow gotta reverse time so i can unread this

other people are capable of appreciating music in a way so alien to me that they may as well be from Neptune

I feel this way every single day on ILM.

(xxp) I don't really think saying a live version "Knock On Wood" is Bowie's worst big single of the 70s is very controversial tbf. "Starman" is great. As is "Sorrow".

yeah knock on wood no contest

I feel this way every single day on ILM.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, June 4, 2021 9:35 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if you feel this way every single day... you may be the one from neptune

Halfway there: I'd say "Space Oddity" works fine. It's got the dreamy ballad feel plus the weird, but it doesn't feel as sludgy to me as "Starman." "Life on Mars" is aiming for a cabaret vibe? Maybe? But still feels approximately two minutes too long to my ear.

"Ziggy" works fine for me also, but as an uptempo rocker it might not be considered from the same well.

unpersons are from mars, ilxors are from venus

Is there life on neptune?

if you feel this way every single day... you may be the one from neptune

Then unperson and I are neighbours.

you really are very well-travelled

Then there were some growing pains before she started the next phase with For the Roses. I prefer the distanced, observational perspective to the heart-on-sleeve stuff.

No such thing as the latter. That line is bulllshit sold by 1970s-era critics who thought artists didn't this sort of thing.

*did

I can understand seeing the progression "Space Oddity" to "Life On Mars" to "Starman" as Bowie gradually stirring more sugar into the mix until it becomes inedible (sentimental chord changes, strings, backing vox). That's why it's so nice that Aladdin Sane cuts back on the slickness.

But yeah I prefer her after 1973.

Alfred, you don't see a change in perspective from Blue to For the Roses?

Anyway let this be said: I think any artist would be pleased and proud to have something as fine as "Raspberry Beret" in their discography.

If it is his worst big single (from a decade of continuously stellar chart performance), that's still pretty good.

I can understand seeing the progression "Space Oddity" to "Life On Mars" to "Starman" as Bowie gradually stirring more sugar into the mix until it becomes inedible (sentimental chord changes, strings, backing vox). That's why it's so nice that Aladdin Sane cuts back on the slickness.

full agreement

Halfway, I do, but I don't see it as a shift from autobiographical narratives, no matter what she says. I don't think art works in those binaries.