GET OUT: US politics November 2020

Pat Riarchy v. Earl Misogyny

Yep. That $130k will disappear in legal fees. Then there's the loss of pension.

Hopefully this will deter others from claiming Texas Lt. Gov's Dan Patrick's reward of $1 million for evidence of election fraud.

Houston Chronicle: Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick offers https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-Lt-Gov-Dan-Patrick-offers-1-million-15716973.php million reward for evidence of voter fraud

Oops. Shouldn't misplace brackets while following our decline into autocracy.

"Hopefully this will deter others from claiming Texas Lt. Gov's Dan Patrick's reward of $1 million for evidence of election fraud."

Fetterman is all in!

Hey, Governor Patrick- it’s your counterpart in Pennsylvania.

I’d like to collect your handsome reward for reporting voter fraud.

I got a dude in Forty Fort, PA who tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump.

I’d like mine in Sheetz gift cards pls.

ps. The Cowboys blow. https://t.co/Y21Q3ZkSEH

— John Fetterman (@JohnFetterman) November 10, 2020

Feels like we are going to just keep shrugging this stuff off as theater until suddenly we aren’t.

I understand the sentiment. What I can't understand is why thousands of elected Republicans would feel the same kind of desperation that is driving Trump. They have a pretty good gig going and there's a new election every two years. They've maneuvered there way through trickier spots and resumed power regularly enough to know they only need to wait and turn the crank some more and... good times for Republicans are back! Why risk it all on a crazy throw of the dice and maybe crash the whole money machine?

It absolutely is theater. And at some point Republicans will cut him loose, they won't want him hanging around like a dead albatross forever.

xp Death threats to their families, the fact that Trump just got 70+ million votes, reading that Don Jr. and his gf are making a play for RNC power, etc etc.

They are frightened.

Not sure I understand the conventional wisdom that Trump will be “irrelevant” after leaving office...he’ll continue to hold enormous sway in a party that he made his own.

100%. He has the power to turn the base against Republican who crosses him.

For the Trump loyalists he is appointing into higher positions they will do as they are bidden, for many that would include criminal actions, too. What they will discover is that the powers of those positions are not inherent in the office holders, but in the office itself and how it fits into a complex web of laws. When they start giving blatantly illegal orders, they'll run into effective resistance from many sides and soon fail.

Trump derived one obvious lesson from his impeachment trial, that he's untouchable. He will soon find out that when you lose an election by about 6 to 8 million votes, you become very touchable. Even Barr knows Trump is playing with fire and will get burned. He'll do whatever allows him to retain a veneer of legality, but he's not going to immolate himself for Trump.

remains to be seen if he continues to hold sway over the masses once he's out on his ass and getting sued into oblivion

Not sure I understand the conventional wisdom that Trump will be “irrelevant” after leaving office...he’ll continue to hold enormous sway in a party that he made his own.

― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, November 10, 2020

hard to say. he has a lot of rabid supporters, but there are also a lot of soft supporters of the 'he's a good businessman' variety who could fall away

@DanPurdy322 has been suspended for violating Twitter Rules, which imo is a violation of our first amendment rights to lol

xps - he's out on his ass and into a Trump Tower vlogging studio where he clocks 10 million Youtube views a day, trashing any Republican who fails to pay homage (figuratively or literally with sacks of cash for "consulting") and getting sued by corrupt Big City Democrats like Cy Vance

He doesn't need to take over Rush's show, as long as Youtube doesn't boot him he can work for 10 minutes a day and rake in cash.

https://www.wonkette.com/keep-calm-and-remember-what-kind-of-clownass-idiots-were-dealing-with

Fetterman is bringing some decent troll game there. Props.

Of course Trump will stay relevant but if you were a 2024 Republican hopeful, would you want to be beholden to this asshole?

Twitter w the legendary Purdy muffle

xp no I think they hate it

Xps having him become Rush 2.0 is actually kinda fine with me? Rush spent decades mostly not mattering even the least little bit to normal civilized humans

I screencapped that Dan Purdy video, who wants it

From an article about the Pence meeting:

"That same day, Vice President Pence briefed Senate Republicans at a lunch meeting where he spent only a few minutes of his presentation discussing the Trump campaign’s legal efforts in Pennsylvania and other states where it’s disputing the final count.

GOP lawmakers in the room didn't press Pence for details, as many of them don't really expect the lawsuits to change the results of the election."

Twitter w the legendary Purdy muffle

Trump is clearly going to stay relevant. Our times aren't going to immediately get less ugly just because he leaves the White House.

We need him in jail or keeled over from a heart attack. Sorry, did I say "him"? I pretty much mean the entire family.

Twitter w the legendary Purdy muffle

vlogging is likely to not cut it for him when he's had five years of rallies: the attention feedback loop is not immediate enough, and for all that he's been a pure media creature forever, dude has absolutely zero camera skills.

his audience would thrive on a Rogan-style show of him talking to someone with thought-out nonsense or actually-interesting things to say, for three hours at a time, but he can't actually listen to anyone long enough to even fake a conversation.

he doesn't have the drive or the attention span to build an entire (fake) news network, so OANN is still his better shot there, but let's face it: the best fit is taking over for Stern, with Omarosa in the Robin Quivers role, and rotating goblins like Rudy and The Mooch in as a barely-heard Wack Pack.

IMO Dem lawyers should start filing lawsuits in states where they lost Senate races

Besides all the other motivations to slow-walk the concessions, don't forget just general GOP pissiness and delegitimization of the incoming president. There's not going to be any cap-doffing or concessions, they're signaling that they are going to pick back up where they left off with Obama.

xp - Wasting the time of the court with frivolous lawsuits is frowned upon by most courts and will often result in stinging judicial beat downs. Why put yourself in line for that?

Not to win, just to illustrate the stupidity of it.

But yeah, it won't happen.

to illustrate the stupidity of it.

if that's the strategy then Rudy's eating their lunch

I’m willing to chip in $5 for an Election Participation Trophy for Trump; maybe that will make him feel better.

Georgia seems settled at this point. I hope Biden wins in Arizona, the count is getting really close

Generally--I've taken grief for this--I find ongoing stories like this so fascinating, I'm content to watch them play out. With this, I just want to skip forward two weeks and get to the end. It's pathetic. And I agree with something I heard the other day: it's got less to do with Trump (because you've known for months, and in a way since his preemptive calls of fraud in 2016, exactly how he was going to react to losing) than with hundreds of other Republican office-holders at all levels.

The laundry list of people who've enabled this shit over the past four years is absolutely gargantuan, and I hope history (or, more importantly, the law and polite society) eviscerates every last one of them. It's just fucking sick and cowardly and ultimately not even worthwhile in terms of self-interest. How long do the enablers really hope to reap the reward of unceasingly eating Trump's flabby ass?

someone else's brave, wild talent / in sixth grade watch fascinated as the bully abuses the vulnerable before his parents transfer him to a military school

social security for all
medicare birth -> earth

eat shit heirs of wealth

http://thomaspaine.org/aboutpaine/was-thomas-paine-a-socialist.html

have to say Biden was about as good as he's ever been today at that presser

he was so sharp accepting the presidency saturday night

iirc first step of the transition is gaining access to the presidential adrenochrome supply

Biden's answer about what an embarrassment all of this is was great, the theatrical pause about finding the most tactful way to say it (referring to the preservation of Trump's "legacy" with a straight face must have been tough).

I do remember one night in the early days of 2017 where Trump seemed so weirdly still fixated on claiming that there were so many illegal votes and that his win should have been bigger. So I kind of freaked out to my husband, saying this had to be for the long game of delegitimizing future elections, real doom panic moment. He got irritated like I was overreacting and said it could never happen. I think I’m owed an apology there.

i feel less freaked out than i was earlier but goddamn it i don’t know if i can handle 2 months of this

Diamond Joe’s dealwithit.gif vibe in the presser was v v good

honestly my bar for him is so low that the press conference p much clears it lol

the way he repeated "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo" with a grin was amazing

just so relieved to have an actual president again.

xps:

What I can't understand is why thousands of elected Republicans would feel the same kind of desperation

They're just as afraid of stochastic terrorism as we are. More, because they'll rise to the top of lists should they acknowledge reality.

They, and all of right wing broadcast/social media, created a monster in the basement. It's a real Little Shop of Horrors moment.

Re: Esper and Haspell.

What's worse for your career: getting fired by these guys? Or... NOT getting fired by these guys?

Do you really want to go down in history as the last person to leave the fuhrerbunker?

Arizona continues to be closer but at a slower pace for Trump. Latest from Maricopa:

Maricopa county has posted 5,291 ballots.
Breakdown
Biden: 2,213 (41.8%)
Trump: 2,982 (56.4%)

This was a net gain of +769 for Trump.

Biden leads Trump by 12,813 in Arizona.

— The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru (@Garrett_Archer) November 11, 2020

Decrees? Decrease, rather.