rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

Meanwhile, in the Oval Office, a voice is heard:

No matter where; of comfort no man speak:
Let's talk of graves, of worms, and epitaphs;
Make dust our paper and with rainy eyes
Write sorrow on the bosom of the earth,
Let's choose executors and talk of wills:
And yet not so, for what can we bequeath
Save our deposed bodies to the ground?
Our lands, our lives and all are Bolingbroke's,
And nothing can we call our own but death
And that small model of the barren earth
Which serves as paste and cover to our bones.
For God's sake, let us sit upon the ground
And tell sad stories of the death of kings;
How some have been deposed; some slain in war,
Some haunted by the ghosts they have deposed;
Some poison'd by their wives: some sleeping kill'd;
All murder'd: for within the hollow crown
That rounds the mortal temples of a king
Keeps Death his court and there the antic sits,
Scoffing his state and grinning at his pomp,
Allowing him a breath, a little scene,
To monarchize, be fear'd and kill with looks,
Infusing him with self and vain conceit,
As if this flesh which walls about our life,
Were brass impregnable, and humour'd thus
Comes at the last and with a little pin
Bores through his castle wall, and farewell king!
Cover your heads and mock not flesh and blood
With solemn reverence: throw away respect,
Tradition, form and ceremonious duty,
For you have but mistook me all this while:
I live with bread like you, feel want,
Taste grief, need friends: subjected thus,
How can you say to me, I am a king?

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removing bookmark

Can someone lock this thread so we never have to see it again?

please

He could run in 24!

unlock it in '24

So what are his chances at this point? I think he might turn it around

MY MAGA NEIGHBOR REMOVED HIS ***ENTIRE FLAGPOLE*** lmaoooooo

— bonhomme (@swamp_surprise) November 7, 2020

he had the entire ensemble, american flag, no more bullshit, don't tread on me. temoved the ENTIRE STRUCTURE

— bonhomme (@swamp_surprise) November 7, 2020

These Trump guys hate America more than anybody

MAKE AMERICA GR— actually you know what, n/m *whistles*

The silence or open acquiescence of GOP Senators to Trump's "this looks reeeeeeeal fishy" business is freaking me out, I need you guys to tell me they are not going to launch a literal coup after losing an election free and clear followed by half the country saying "well I know that's not strictly legal, but what are you gonna do, I saw on Facebook the other guys cheat even worse"

I mean there is a much more plausible explanation that they're thinking "It's still a better move for a GOP elected official not to oppose Trump so openly that the hardcore Trumpists would figure it out, better to let this thing deflate on its own"

Said on another thread my neighbor removed Trump flag from his pickup truck on Thursday but US and blue lives matter flags remain. Yesterday I noticed the don't tread on me mixed with confed flag was down from mast on house, dunno how long ago that happened.
Then I thought hmm maybe he grabbed the Trump flag and hitched a ride with a buddy to Phx to go protest. We shall see if Trump flag makes a return

eephus otm

otm where I sweat or otm where I talk myself down

I meant that most career politicians are just keeping their heads down in the hopes that things just deflate

OK I do think that makes the most sense

I had a paranoid moment about the coup possibility, but I just don't see the mechanics of it working. Federalist Society and all, I don't think the judiciary is sufficiently degraded to allow it. And the courts are his only conceivable avenue, it's not going to come from the military.

In court, you have actually prove things.

have to

Eephus, I hasten to note that abject terror and eerie calm can in fact coexist, and both may be right.

It's Schrodinger's news cycle.

Wetting your pants while also taking celebratory bong hits is prolly appropriate to the moment.

Carry on and stay thirsty my friends

Wetting your pants while also taking celebratory bong hits is prolly appropriate to the moment.

are you literally looking in my window right now

YMP looking through all of our windows rn

You should at least have the sense to draw the blinds, sheesh

You especially, Lunch.

I've been having some panicky feelings tonight, too, after reading this Masha Gessen piece (from a few days ago), calling Trump's declaration of victory an "attempted autocratic breakthrough," and the stuff about how the GSA administrator won't authorize the transition to begin.

My nightmare is that network news is going to be trotting out Trump like his opinions mean something, like Newt Gingrich, until the end of time.

I'd be scared if these weren't the dumbest motherfuckers who ever lived

that was my reaction to the original coup talk

the Gessen piece isn't making me feel panicky about the January transition. 2024 and beyond tho ...

Hopefully we can have an orderly wind-down of America by then

Upper miss brings truth

I'd be scared if these weren't the dumbest motherfuckers who ever lived

Hah, yes. The press conference for their long-planned coup d'etat would somehow end up being held at Cooter Tat's, a Dukes of Hazzard-themed tattoo parlor outside of Macon.

(Y'know, because "coup d'etat" sounds kinda like "Cooter Tat") man I really need to to go sleep now

Ah, yr not gonna top what actually happened

Masha Gessen is a kook, wouldn't listen to much to what she's saying.

I am not concerned about any coup nonsense; a ums pointed out, these guys would pull of a coup that ended with them hanging off a bridge over the Potomac.

I am worried about an effective transition due to the hollowing out of agency professionals over the last 4 years and a determination by Trump goons to hamstring the next administration as much as possible. Even little things like passwords and legacy knowledge are going to be lacking.

of = off

BUt what if the next wave of GOPers has a few more braincells. Is the world f-ed.
or is this the last stand of a dying brand.

Cobra Kai Never Dies, my friend

Masha Gessen is a kook

Also *they

I've liked their New Yorker stuff.

Trump is not complex. His declaration of victory "by a lot" was an attempt at an autocratic breakthrough. But, typically for him, it was only effective at deluding his most clueless supporters, who are mostly good for driving around in pickups yelling "we love Trump". They aren't organized and he has no interest in organizing them, so they're useless to him for overturning the election.

my mom called Trumps voter fraud line and told them she saw a guy in Atlanta alter the ballots by staring at them for several minutes

<3

(It was a prank call, maybe shouldn’t have posted that)

Trump is not complex. His declaration of victory "by a lot" was an attempt at an autocratic breakthrough. But, typically for him, it was only effective at deluding his most clueless supporters, who are mostly good for driving around in pickups yelling "we love Trump". They aren't organized and he has no interest in organizing them, so they're useless to him for overturning the election.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, November 9, 2020 1:01 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'd say this is right, which is why I both agree that Trump was attempting *something* and that at the same time calling it a fancy term like "autocratic breakthrough" gives it too much credit. He's reacting instinctively and trying everything he can, but it's not like he developed some sophisticated plot to remain in office/seize power. He doesn't have the chops or the wherewithal for a true autocratic breakthrough, even as POTUS. In the same sense that it would be a stretch to call the Whitmer kidnapping plot an "attempted coup," since they didn't get that close, and even if they had kidnapped her it's not like they could have overthrown the government of Michigan.

the phrase "autocratic attempt" is a good one, i think, because he really did try to cancel the popular will and re-install himself as prez with his attacks on the mail and the legitimacy of the electoral process. it's looking like he failed, but he did "attempt" it.

somewhat half-assedly of course