GET OUT: US politics November 2020

CNN reporting that people in the White House are managing the president's anger and frustration

Please, please, CNN, just say it.

You know how.

Come on.

In-kree-sing-lee

Eye-so-late-ed

Here we go

Sources close to the White House said some senior officials inside the White House and the campaign are beginning to quietly back away from Trump, in acts of self-preservation, as the returns in Pennsylvania and Georgia indicate the President will not win reelection. https://t.co/Pi50hRjavO

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) November 6, 2020

Just call it someone, please.

He's going to have to do all the upper-decking by himself. MAYBE Junior and Eric will help.

Doth not Brutus bootless kneel?

what does "quietly back away" even mean?

Why should the networks call? I half joke but this brings down the curtain on The Trump Presidency Spectacle and the attendant coverage and ratings and hate-watchings and etc. Ad rates are about to crash. Wring out everything while you can!

what does "quietly back away" even mean?

An image of Homer and a hedge comes to mind.

Thus

But is there enough room for all of them in the hedges of the Rose Garden? pic.twitter.com/8rqY7JTpw3

— Thierry Côté (@tcote) November 6, 2020

He'll have to clean all those stains in the Lincoln Bedroom if he wants to get his security deposit back.

Why should the networks call? I half joke but this brings down the curtain on The Trump Presidency Spectacle and the attendant coverage and ratings and hate-watchings and etc. Ad rates are about to crash. Wring out everything while you can!

While I certainly understand the ratings angle here, it also gives Trump more time to whine and wheedle about how unfair it all is. Not that he'd shut up when it's called, but it would feel a little less like we are in limbo.

bingo:

A separate adviser to the campaign described Trump as increasingly isolated in his claims of a stolen election. "He is mostly alone here," the adviser said of Trump's claims of voter fraud.

Pres Keyes, thanks. Fucking called it. if I worked for the administration I would beg to be fired right about now, so I could say I had been a dissenting voice.

Oh and yeah btw the military has, proportionately, fewer white and more Black personnel than the general population.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/demographics-us-military

how much more isolated can one man get

Jan 2021, hiring office:

"Hm, blank space on your resume for four years."

"I was experiencing personal growth."

yeah the take that the networks have a vested interest in drawing it out supposes that we'll never hear from trump again after they call it. there will plenty of profitable trump-related pageviews to be had for years to come i think.

In 2016, there were 7,788 military absentee votes in Pennsylvania, 5,203 in Georgia, and 2,677 in Nevada. Assuming similar numbers this year, it seems unlikely that those will make a difference unless it's *really* close in Georgia.

― jaymc, Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I should note that many of those votes have already been received, anyway.

why isn't anyone calling it ffs. i have hard kombucha i cannot in good faith crack until somebody calls it.

if this election were an ilx poll, this would be the point where everyone would start posting their individual ballots

how much more isolated can one man get

https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2017/02/1ba4d7c5206bd92a-600x338.jpg

please lord, give me a 46th president for my 46th birthday

why isn't anyone calling it ffs

yeah it's time! you have to start getting the baby used to hearing it

how much more isolated can one man get

― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, November 6, 2020 1:46 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

One really easy way to test this in a fun visual way for all ages is to put him on a large chunk of ice, kick it out to sea and watch it drift away

Trumps setting up for a strong 'stabbed-in-the-back' myth.

speaking of stabbing ...

If you did that to him he would propel all over the room and probably get caught on the ceiling fan.

News outlets reporting on other news outlets not calling it yet, smh. No one wants to be first.

I'm guessing networks are waiting on NV? Since NV and PA together put Biden over the top even without the two recount states or AZ

how much more isolated can one man get

https://thebrokencliche.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/the-conversation.jpg

hopefully all his true believers will focus their ire on the republican party for abandoning him.

I get wanting to be as thorough as possible so as not to give the slightest justification to the fraud accusations, but come on, at what point does the math become inevitable?

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I'm guessing networks are waiting on NV? Since NV and PA together put Biden over the top even without the two recount states or AZ

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, November 6, 2020 6:58 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

waiting on what from nv exactly? he has won nv.

"he'd steal the election if he got the chance"

News orgs are being waaaay too cautious

yep, this is bullshit

still tiptoeing around the abusive dad

nobody wants their corporate building to be surrounded by a posse of batshit q freaks screaming WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY

There just isn't a feasible path for Trump at this point, so dragging it out just creates a false narrative.

yeah! come on people, stick the knife in

So tired of refreshing

My finger is sore

Does getting fired from the trump whitehouse look good on a CV or are you better off without any contact at all

you guys know you don't actually need to wait for CNN or whatever to validate, you can party whenever you want

So weird that it's up to news networks(?) tbh

is there a chance biden declares victory tonight if networks continue to be shook?

tbh "calling the election" is sort of an epistemic quandary, why bother until the secretaries of state all certify the results? or the electors vote?

the larger issue here is that if the narrative is "count all the votes," you actually have to do it before you announce a winner. let it happen.

at what point does the math become inevitable?

Short answer: when the officially designated electors register their votes in early December.

Long answer: the networks are in a tight place compared to previous elections where it was accepted that when the outcome was apparent to experts, it was all but settled. A huge fraction of the population not only distrusts experts more than ever before, but they have been primed by the fucking President of the United States for months to expect massive fraud, which same president has zero intention to acknowledge any outcome where he lost.

To the degree the media try to anticipate a loss for Trump before every avenue is closed to him, they will risk losing credibility with tens of millions of their audience. The outcome will be the same, no matter if they 'call' it or not, so why should they risk anything by doing it one moment prematurely?

please lord, give me a 46th president for my 46th birthday

― sarahell, Friday, November 6, 2020 1:53 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my wife turned 46 on Tuesday. It sucked!

Trumps setting up for a strong 'stabbed-in-the-back' myth.

― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd)

speaking of stabbing ...

― sarahell

Which brings us back to that Politico piece on parallels between Trump and Julius Caesar (apart from hair loss)