GET OUT: US politics November 2020

It sounds like PA might be won by more than 1% unlike Georgia. There will be no cognitive dissonance amongst Trump mobs switching from chanting Stop The Count to Start The Recount!

Morning USA. Woke up, certain that overnight there would have been some significant movement, more fool me.

CNN has this kind of night shift, low energy vibe right now with two relaxed anchors having the same cyclical conversation.

I've got a mental picture of Georgian ballot-counting machines like something from the Flintstones with two little purple birds inside and lots of string pulleys.

Georgia flipped

917 ahead

I presume as 99% of votes have been counted it will be blue within a 1% margin + Trump will be calling for a recount?

where are you seeing this? NYT doesn't have it

AP

CNN for me, nothing on the 538 blog as yet

Same on CNN. (Semi-sleeping through this.)

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GA Presidential Election Results - Biden takes the Lead

Biden (D): 49.39.% ( 2,449,371 votes)
Trump (R): 49.37% ( 2,448,454 votes)

Biden Margin: (+917)
Estimated: > 99% votes in

More results here: https://t.co/xlHf7GZUxJ

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) November 6, 2020

Welcome to the 'magic hour' of the thread, when the Americans are all asleep and everyone else can snark about how insanely stupid their electoral system is. (Brit here, glass houses and all that I admit)

the Americans are all awake and find it exponentially more stupid than you do

what's wrong with knowing the results before the elections are even run? that's what they do in good and healthy countries

Hooray! Happened while I was pulverising something orange with a hand blender, zzzzzzzzzt!

xp I was gonna say, even the Americans that benefit from the electoral system probably find it stupid

Having fun translating US electoral system into British terms, like Greater London would be one state with a heavy electoral college weighting, South Lincolnshire (Buttlick, Nebraska for cultural translation purposes) another, with a much smaller weighting... but get this, the house of lords is way more powerful and Greater London and South Lincolnshire have the same representation in it lol

Possibly unfair to glancingly denigrate Nebraska there as they're one of only two states to gesture towards a saner voting system, but ykwim

I never watch CNN but it's enjoyable hearing them calling Trump 'pathetic' and Cooper's crazy 'obese turtle' comment, do they usually use that kind of tone or are they emboldened by events?

Discovered this page last night:

https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

So...I'm guessing that any state where the difference is less than 1% will have a recount ordered? Or is that up to the discretion of local judges or something? If so this is going to drag on for weeks. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

They keep tweaking and refining the UI on that site. Right now, they've got the "block trend" for Trump in GA wrong but I'm sure they'll fix it.

Recount in GA is at 0.5%, which is assured; even if Biden picks up every remaining vote it's only a 0.1% "win". But a buffer of a coupla thousand should be recount-proof, you'd hope.

I did not sleep well.

I literally just woke up to see that GA flipped, guess I can now go back to sleep

Congratulations to our next Secretary of State, Hunter Biden.

CNN had Pornhub open 😭😭😭 #Election2020 #Vote2020 #CNNElectionpic.twitter.com/46zhaMM5DL

— Patrick (@PatrickSikler) November 6, 2020

CNN is the gift that keeps on giving today.

funny but probably fake

Another 2 hours (approx) for the next batch of PA votes, apparently.

Good morning!

CNN saying that even with conservative estimate (based on current percentage splits) Biden should be around 12k up in PA when next batch of 50K votes come in

dreamt that Biden died of a heart attack whilst waiting for the final results :c

GL USA.

can states split their vote allocation? has that ever happened?

Chris Cuomo is really trying to make "AmeriCANS" happen

answering my own question from here: https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/allocation

"Allocation within each State

All States, except for Maine and Nebraska have a winner-take-all policy where the State looks only at the overall winner of the state-wide popular vote. Maine and Nebraska, however, appoint individual electors based on the winner of the popular vote for each Congressional district and then 2 electors based on the winner of the overall state-wide popular vote.

Even though Maine and Nebraska don't use a winner-take-all system, it is rare for either State to have a split vote. Each has done so once: Nebraska in 2008 and Maine in 2016."

https://i.imgur.com/LmDKn6s.jpg

According to somebody on CNN or MSNBC (I'm back and forth and it all blurs), another perfect sidebar to go along with Arizona/McCain: it was John Lewis's district that moved Biden into the lead.

Nikema Williams being happy about it on CNN rn

― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, November 6, 2020 5:27 PM (five hours ago)

^ elected to Lewis' seat this week.

Expert commentary:

From what we know after 20 years of wide-scale postal voting in the UK is it’s open to fraud and intimidation.

There have been huge problems involving verification of ballots here before.

Many from the left have gone to prison in that time.

pic.twitter.com/Q9Fe04U9u9

— Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage) November 6, 2020

No we don't. No there haven't. No they haven't.

I was out last night, so I missed Trump's whatever-it-was. Watching it now--truly sad, especially the absolute silence in the room. Nixon's petulant farewell in '62 seems small by comparison.

pvmic :)

I swear to god waiting for PA to come through is giving me Rick Wilson OPPO DUMP PTSD here.

Andrew Yang peeing his pants on CNN right now.

Biden so fast, bout to piss on myself

Koogs: you can have faithless electors, who don't vote the way they're pledged to when the college convenes. In 2016, the final tally was a few off due to this (some votes for Colin Powell, Bernie Sanders, Faith Spotted Eagle...). Wasn't close enough to matter then, but if this ends up 270-268 (hope not)...

If it’s Georgia that does this, we really all need to chip in and buy Stacey Abrams a big ice cream sundae. Her voter turnout efforts are nothing short of inspiring.

Koogs – the US also came very close to reforming the winner-takes-all system in 1970 but it was blocked by segregationist senators. There was a good Daily podcast about it recently:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/podcasts/the-daily/electoral-college-trump-clinton-gore-bush.html

Even Maine and Nebraska don't award their electoral votes fully proportionally according to the popular vote. It seems to me that if you did within the current college system, you'd probably just end up even more mired in lawsuits and demands for recounts because of there being more points in the vote tally that would tip over into meaning an extra EC vote.

ie just abolish the electoral college already

Stacey Brams appreciation day imo

Abrams even

Oh, I think I've misrepresented the 1970 plan, which was indeed to abolish the EC and replace with a popular vote system, not just get rid of the winner-takes-all part

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