GET OUT: US politics November 2020

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Arizona's a great hook for a conspiracy theory

lukas, Friday, 6 November 2020 00:50 (five years ago)

yeah that was a mistake, i meant to say "half"

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, November 5, 2020

peace. i'm def not itt for zings, just clinging to my belief that (just barely) most of america is (just barely) not entirely beyond redemption.

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, November 6, 2020 12:49 AM (nineteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i appreciate being called on mistakes tbr

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:50 (five years ago)

why do you say he's favoured in arizona? xxp

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:51 (five years ago)

lol at The Post turning on him

Like they aren't salivating at the chance to hammer away at Biden for four years.

On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:52 (five years ago)

If you argue that Democrats are "center-left" (or even "left") means that you have to write off all of that as a possibility

Wait. Why are those the rules? I want to change them to something that doesn't require a non-sequitur.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:52 (five years ago)

like, "drain the swamp" and conspiracy energy should transfer v easily to opposing an unlimited and unaccountable budget for military rorts, and giving the money back to the people (via services)

assuming you can convince enough voters that substantive and positive changes to everyday existence are honestly achievable through political means, which might be the trickiest trick of all at this point

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:53 (five years ago)

No socialist platform will work in South Florida. I just signed up to commit myself to how the fucking disastrous Democratic Party in Florida can sell the ACA as an awesome thing to the people most dependent on it.

In other words: the messaging is easy if you work on understanding these discrete communities.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:53 (five years ago)

Like they aren't salivating at the chance to hammer away at Biden for four years.

I mean, relatable.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:54 (five years ago)

i haven't seen anybody actually opine that AZ is destined for Trump. pretty sure we'd have seen a retraction by either AP or Fox (maybe not both), and it appears that Trump's current pace is enough to win the state, but it's a fairly thin pace that could easily fall off with a new Biden-favoring dumps

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:54 (five years ago)

Biden's national popular vote lead just surpassed 4 million (2.8%), per @CookPolitical's presidential vote tracker: https://t.co/9dMmSHHdVa?

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 6, 2020

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:54 (five years ago)

so much fraud

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:54 (five years ago)

it would be kind of fitting if the one state that actually rejuvenated my hope in Biden winning turned out to not be his after all and he winds up winning the one state that we thought was lost thanks to the Needle

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:54 (five years ago)

why do you say he's favoured in arizona? xxp

based on https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

lukas, Friday, 6 November 2020 00:55 (five years ago)

Doesn’t AZ still have a significant chunk in Pima County?

frogbs, Friday, 6 November 2020 00:56 (five years ago)

peace. i'm def not itt for zings, just clinging to my belief that (just barely) most of america is (just barely) not entirely beyond redemption.

Welcome to being Black

DJP, Friday, 6 November 2020 00:58 (five years ago)

No retraction from Fox on AZ yet — they repeated it a couple of hours ago.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 November 2020 00:58 (five years ago)

that scraper just show things as they are now, though, but it matters where the votes still remain, as frogbs has implied. he can be put off the pace fairly easily with a few bad results.

xpost yes, Pima and Maricopa have a ton outstanding

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:59 (five years ago)

somehow i doubt fox has magical az knowledge. i think it's just kinda uncertain at this point. unless are you guys seeing numbers for pima and maricopa?

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:00 (five years ago)

well, Pima's at 97%, but Maricopa's only at 86%, and Apache's at 91%, and Coconino at 88%.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:01 (five years ago)

per NYT

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:01 (five years ago)

ah

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:01 (five years ago)

https://youtu.be/TjhNU6vNWcg

Anderson Cooper administering a Voight-Kampff to CNN viewers

Deverly (Bangelo), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:01 (five years ago)

Deepfake?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:02 (five years ago)

Nah saw it happen the audio is just janked in that clip

Deverly (Bangelo), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:03 (five years ago)

Losing fair and square is one thing but in the face of all of this video evidence, lack of transparency, boarding up of windows, fighting to prevent poll watching etc etc... for GOPers to not stand up now shows your true colors.

Will make the 2024 primary process a lot easier. https://t.co/GNC5OkVvf5

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) November 6, 2020



L o l

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:03 (five years ago)

No, I heard him say it live.

Maresn3st, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:04 (five years ago)

Ok I guess I just have no idea of the kinds of things people say on cable news

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:05 (five years ago)

If that clip is him making the “obese turtle” “joke” then yes it’s real.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:05 (five years ago)

how much more slowly could the remaining results come in?

Dan S, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:05 (five years ago)

The PA vote, man, just gets worse for Trump.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:06 (five years ago)

the scraper's 'percentage needed to win' is based on an estimate of how many votes remain uncounted. by posting that percentage to the nearest tenth, it makes that look more authoritative than it really is.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:06 (five years ago)

how much more slowly could the remaining results come in?

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5f626e7cde8955b36a7f436f/960x0.jpg

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:08 (five years ago)

MSNBC starting to act like the writing is on the wall now

Would love for this to be called tonight. Probably won’t based on GA since the margin will be razor thin. But if Biden pulls ahead in PA...

frogbs, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:09 (five years ago)

This is big. Pima county, the liberal stronghold of Arizona, just posted 28,344 ballots. Breakdown
Biden: 13,045 (46%)
Trump: 14,484 (51.1%)

Trump now trails Biden by 56,547 in Arizona.

— The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru (@Garrett_Archer) November 6, 2020

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:13 (five years ago)

my point exactly re: the scraper - 28k votes just dropped in AZ, 52% for Trump, 47% for Biden (way off the pace he needs), and now the block trend has him below the pace he needs to be at.

that doesn't mean Biden's now 'favored', it just means at the moment, that's how it looks, but that info is fairly toothless without analyzing where the remaining ballots are and how that area typically votes, and whether they're mail or in-person

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:13 (five years ago)

Re: Fox Az.I can understand a news organization not wanting to issue a correction only to then have to issue a correction to that correction.

If you leave the call in place, then it turns out to be wrong, correct it then.

If you reverse the call, then you may have to reverse that reversal which just looks worse

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:15 (five years ago)

Yeah I see Trump gaining ground in AZ but I see no reason to think it’s a lost cause for Biden at this point.

epistantophus, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:17 (five years ago)

the narrative from Silver was that Trump could carry the needed % in counties that he's favored in, but there would be several counties that would be more favorable to Biden that would counteract that. this seems to play into that narrative, but caek can tell me if I'm wrong

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:17 (five years ago)

and now Biden's lead just went back up 1,300 votes 3 minutes ago

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:19 (five years ago)

This trickle out stuff is ridiculous, counties here just put out numbers once a day.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:20 (five years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmGj27yUcAEuqrH?format=png&name=900x900

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:21 (five years ago)

I have no idea what’s going to happen in Arizona but my money would be on Biden based on what I’ve read.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:22 (five years ago)

It is fun to see the numbers change on the scraper, but as long as Trump's lawsuits keep failing dismally to make any kind of a ripple in the process I'll be content to let the process wind slowly to its conclusion and see what it spits out when the votes are all in.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:23 (five years ago)

trump only up by 63k in pa with more philly ballots to come

treeship., Friday, 6 November 2020 01:23 (five years ago)

just fyi to you guys, the scraper is using the NYT/Upshot API*. You can easily follow along on the NYT election page.

*is it really a scraper when you have API access? Back in my days, scraping meant you had to employ some creative uh data collection services.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:27 (five years ago)

i want a fast result as I want to speed up America wiping its collective ass with Trump's face

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:27 (five years ago)

lead in pa below 60k now

treeship., Friday, 6 November 2020 01:28 (five years ago)

ok

Dan S, Friday, 6 November 2020 01:30 (five years ago)


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