GET OUT: US politics November 2020

just curious where this comparison to other developed countries is going to "get us" in your thinking ... are we to be looking to them for inspiration or technical guidance?

Donald Trump not all that bright I guess

Bloom’s off the rose at the Post

Downcast Trump makes baseless election fraud claims in White House address https://t.co/FVM8v1bjq5 pic.twitter.com/FqRzUVSGkd

— New York Post (@nypost) November 6, 2020

This election AND this thread: rollercoasters

"Well that isn't the way it works"

"Well it's how it should work that matters!"

and I just really want to figure out if we can get things to work the way they should work and how that can be done, because otherwise it's just kinda depressing.

Rupert made his call

Accepting the Democratic Party (on the whole) as left-wing instead of centre-right is to accept the far-right and active fascists' framing and Overton moving.

let's wallow in this for a second people, come on

i need downfall videos and i need mad world videos

Trump dropping fast in PA. It's all over.

all over but the tweetin

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

how about someone get in there and take that nuclear football away now

Rupert, August 2018: "They'll only be in for three years – it won't be so bad. I did alright under Labor and the Painters & Dockers [union, in the 1980s]; I can make money under [Labor] and the CFMEU."

wooooo just in time for the weekend. happy friday everyone he's fried!

xp to Milo

lol at The Post turning on him

lmao the WA gov election has been a great balm, he’s down by 600,000 and refusing to concede:

ATTENTION: There is no official go fund me page for Loren Culp campaign as of this time. He is still a candidate and there is a legality. Please patiently wait for the next update.
Thank you, appreciate you all 🇺🇸

— Loren Culp, Candidate for Governor of WA State (R) (@LorenCulp) November 5, 2020

just curious where this comparison to other developed countries is going to "get us" in your thinking ... are we to be looking to them for inspiration or technical guidance?

Insofar as ILX is not an organizing space or in any way meaningful - nowhere.

The rest of the world shows us that nationalized healthcare works, better labor laws work, you don't have to spend all of your money on fossil fuel subsidies and F-35s, you can have quality public housing. If you argue that Democrats are "center-left" (or even "left") means that you have to write off all of that as a possibility - that the default of deficit hawking, shitty, overpriced healthcare and forever war is the best we're getting.

Also what does “center-right” actually mean to people

i appreciate your read on this but we literally have to not be in this place if we want some kind of sane future for humanity.

Absolutely agree.

Anyway, I know this all just another iteration of the eternal idealist-vs-pragmatist argument, and I've been on both sides of that and more or less identify as an idealistic pragmatist. I see the very real political value in left-wing activism, because it pulls and pushes things that need to be pulled and pushed. I also see the limitations in it, and I most value people who can actually get things done, whether they're working inside or outside any given system.

xpost a merry go round

The rest of the world shows us that nationalized healthcare works, better labor laws work, you don't have to spend all of your money on fossil fuel subsidies and F-35s, you can have quality public housing

at a certain point though you have to stop pointing to the rest of the world and think about how to get a few more american dumbfucks to agree with you lol

Folks, Biden just managed to net votes out of mail-in ballots in *Forsyth*, which is a massively red county that Trump is winning by 34% overall.

It's also Georgia's red county with the biggest number of ballots left. And yet Biden won this batch by 5%. Mail is very blue indeed.

— Taniel (@Taniel) November 6, 2020

most of america voted for trump...

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, November 5, 2020

wat?

Geographically

at a certain point though you have to stop pointing to the rest of the world and think about how to get a few more american dumbfucks to agree with you lol

Start with one universal program that can be seen and felt in everyone's life - like socialized healthcare.

“You see that patch of scrub-brush? That’s a TRUMP scrub-brush.”

most of america voted for trump...

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, November 5, 2020

wat?

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, November 6, 2020 12:43 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah that was a mistake, i meant to say "half"

This land ain't your land
This land is my land
You'll pry my gun out
Of my cold, dead hands

Or some kind of UBI that isn't welfare-slashing techbro terror.

not even half though, i think this ended up being a bigger win for democrats than it looked on tuesday and wednesday.

when the outstanding west coast votes are counted, Biden will have won by many millions

this feels like trying to watch a football game on an internet feed that buffers every 3 seconds

i am dying to see GA turn tonight

If you guys get your COVID shit together, Canada would be happy to sponsor the “injure a Trumper” program, where we bring Trump voters up here, wound them, and then have them treated in our commie hospitals.

Might shift a few viewpoints!

(disclaimer: cannot guarantee that all injuries will be non-fatal)

at a certain point though you have to stop pointing to the rest of the world and think about how to get a few more american dumbfucks to agree with you lol

Many of those Americans can be gotten to agree if you explain how these policies serve their own interest.

like, "drain the swamp" and conspiracy energy should transfer v easily to opposing an unlimited and unaccountable budget for military rorts, and giving the money back to the people (via services)

yeah that was a mistake, i meant to say "half"

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, November 5, 2020

peace. i'm def not itt for zings, just clinging to my belief that (just barely) most of america is (just barely) not entirely beyond redemption.

Looks like Trump will get Arizona now which is a shame, but irrelevant since Biden is on course for PA

this feels like trying to watch a football game on an internet feed that buffers every 3 seconds

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:47 (thirty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Hopefully you'll be able to focus on actually doing this by Sunday

Arizona's a great hook for a conspiracy theory

yeah that was a mistake, i meant to say "half"

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, November 5, 2020

peace. i'm def not itt for zings, just clinging to my belief that (just barely) most of america is (just barely) not entirely beyond redemption.

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, November 6, 2020 12:49 AM (nineteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i appreciate being called on mistakes tbr

why do you say he's favoured in arizona? xxp

lol at The Post turning on him

Like they aren't salivating at the chance to hammer away at Biden for four years.

If you argue that Democrats are "center-left" (or even "left") means that you have to write off all of that as a possibility

Wait. Why are those the rules? I want to change them to something that doesn't require a non-sequitur.

like, "drain the swamp" and conspiracy energy should transfer v easily to opposing an unlimited and unaccountable budget for military rorts, and giving the money back to the people (via services)

assuming you can convince enough voters that substantive and positive changes to everyday existence are honestly achievable through political means, which might be the trickiest trick of all at this point

No socialist platform will work in South Florida. I just signed up to commit myself to how the fucking disastrous Democratic Party in Florida can sell the ACA as an awesome thing to the people most dependent on it.

In other words: the messaging is easy if you work on understanding these discrete communities.

Like they aren't salivating at the chance to hammer away at Biden for four years.

I mean, relatable.

i haven't seen anybody actually opine that AZ is destined for Trump. pretty sure we'd have seen a retraction by either AP or Fox (maybe not both), and it appears that Trump's current pace is enough to win the state, but it's a fairly thin pace that could easily fall off with a new Biden-favoring dumps

Biden's national popular vote lead just surpassed 4 million (2.8%), per @CookPolitical's presidential vote tracker: https://t.co/9dMmSHHdVa?

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 6, 2020