GET OUT: US politics November 2020

you know it's bad when daniel dale says it's the most dishonest speech by trump he's ever seen

Again, pfft.

He is promising “a lot of litigation“ that he hopes ends up in front of the Supreme Court, right after he said that he thinks he will win the election “very easily“

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 6, 2020

the most litigation. the biggest litigation. covered in honey mustard

hehe, the last question shouted at him before the mic cut off on the White House feed was "are you being a sore loser??"

difference of 3,635 votes in Georgia now

He genuinely didn’t see this coming, did he? Truly an unbelievably damaged person.

It’s looking like it could be Biden by 2000

wow georgia's going to put biden at 269 ...

...

nice,,,,

double nice

Fox's John Roberts reporting from the White House mildly calling BS

and the percentage of remaining votes that Biden needs to win in GA keeps going down.

Tipsy, the Dems are a center-right party.

They're not, tho. I mean, like all such things it depends on where you set your markers, but by the standards of American political history, the modern Democratic Party is very much center-left. Maybe center-center-left, if you want to north-by-northwest it, but remember that half the country just voted for Donald Trump. I might enjoy living in a country where Elizabeth Warren qualified as a squishy centrist, but that's just not the place we are.

man one silver lining of this admin is the political photographers aiming for the bleachers

Amazing work by AP's @evanvucci pic.twitter.com/63iFyVg5h8

— Rob Crilly (@robcrilly) November 5, 2020

Trump's lead in Georgia now under 4000 votes after Chatham absentees report.
Might still be about 20000 votes left throughout the state, based on the earlier tallies from the secretary of state. Hard to think Biden wouldn't find another 3700 votes https://t.co/io5SZi0vvp

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) November 6, 2020

Daaaaamn

calling BS on the election or Donnie Dingleberry?

Some of them are in Republican counties but it seems to be 5k vs 15k

lololollolol Santorum was on CNN immediately before Trump's speech, explaining that he, Rick, is a Trump whisperer and the anchors don't understand that Trump is never going to say "stop the count" or anything antidemocratic like that

(in *response* to an anchor quoting Trump saying "stop the count")

and now he's having to talk himself through his reaction live on air

Tipsy, the Dems are a center-right party.

They are anywhere but the US. Trump appears to have mislaid a few more marbles since we last saw him.

froth on, you absolute mixture

That was like a small-town community theater production of Death of A Salesman where the director insists on casting his clinically depressed great-uncle as Willy Loman

— SadDeflatedOldManHat (@Popehat) November 6, 2020

They're not, tho. I mean, like all such things it depends on where you set your markers, but by the standards of American political history, the modern Democratic Party is very much center-left. Maybe center-center-left, if you want to north-by-northwest it, but remember that half the country just voted for Donald Trump. I might enjoy living in a country where Elizabeth Warren qualified as a squishy centrist, but that's just not the place we are.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, November 6, 2020 12:09 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i appreciate your read on this but we literally have to not be in this place if we want some kind of sane future for humanity. so we need more people shifting us away from this place and fewer people retrenching us there with this kind of analysis, which has a lot of assumptions baked into it and not a lot of imagination.

Santorum started out at "no elected republican is going to stand behind those statements" (nb I bet Matt Gaetz already is), and kept going until he got to "the president might be right that there's massive fraud resulting in a stolen election, but he shouldn't say so"

so if Biden squeaks out a win in GA and a recount is called, I guess Georgia isn't going to be the tipping point state, but it will be hugely gratifying. thank you Stacey Abrams for all of the work you've done

calling BS on the election or Donnie Dingleberry?

the latter

many xposts (to Neanderthal)

It really is like the testing thing. More vote-counting and you get more results, unfair results. Stop counting and you wait and see, Biden will just one day go away. That presser was incredible

I missed the latest meltdown. Is there a supercut of high/lowlights?

most of america voted for trump, most of america is also religious freaks, they can be persuaded with a little imagination, something with a purpose that comes from the gut - a mission. the neoliberal austerity from the dems is NOT WORKING. it's been thirty years of it. how can that not be obvious at this point?

Another great annoyed judge thread:

Judge Paul Diamond to the Trump campaign lawyer:

Diamond: Are your observers in the counting room?
Trump campaign: "There's a non zero number of people in the room"

— kadhim (＾ｰ^)ノ (@kadhim) November 5, 2020

what is even left to say

Annoyed judges are the funniest people on earth

put it this way to how little Donnie's ranting is getting to me atm - I'm more angry at the ref who gave Nani a red card last night. yelled at him that I would fuck his wife for a half hour until a guy in lower balcony upped the ante to his mother.

lol at a non-zero number of people

can't you answer a question like a complex organism

They're not, tho. I mean, like all such things it depends on where you set your markers, but by the standards of American political history, the modern Democratic Party is very much center-left. Maybe center-center-left, if you want to north-by-northwest it, but remember that half the country just voted for Donald Trump. I might enjoy living in a country where Elizabeth Warren qualified as a squishy centrist, but that's just not the place we are.

By the standards of American history is a terrible measure (and also not really true - the modern Democratic party is economically right of the party from 1932-1976).

On a global scale of developed countries, the Democrats are certainly center-right - economically, in terms of 'national security' and imperial projection, social welfare, law and order.

The one arena where the Democrats could be described as center-left is on some social issues - but even then, can they? The last elected Democratic President ran opposing same-sex marriage! I always think of Wendy Davis making her political bones with a pro-choice filibuster then running for governor and saying actually she'd be okay banning the third-trimester abortions that had been at stake in her filibuster.

milo otmfm

NEW: I’m told that President Trump can’t get his messaging straight on counting the votes because he doesn’t understand what “stop the count” means. On a call this morning, an adviser had to explain to him that if they stopped counting votes right now, he would lose the election.

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) November 6, 2020

map otm. This is literally the response I feel like I get any time anyone makes this point.

"Well that isn't the way it works"

"Well it's how it should work that matters!"

new, honed message for Trump: "Make me win. I won."

Like we can take stock of where things are without reifying that state of things.

2500 outstanding votes from the most Trump friendly county left in GA just came in. He needed to win these by at least 3:1 and instead he lost them by a hair. Biden’s gonna win there.

The most liberal element of the national Democratic Party rn is the congressional progressive caucus, which makes up half of the overall D delegation, and even they have members who are anxious about challenging leadership too much counterweighting the AOC/Tlaib/Omar end of things.

just curious where this comparison to other developed countries is going to "get us" in your thinking ... are we to be looking to them for inspiration or technical guidance?

Donald Trump not all that bright I guess

Bloom’s off the rose at the Post

Downcast Trump makes baseless election fraud claims in White House address https://t.co/FVM8v1bjq5 pic.twitter.com/FqRzUVSGkd

— New York Post (@nypost) November 6, 2020

This election AND this thread: rollercoasters

"Well that isn't the way it works"

"Well it's how it should work that matters!"

and I just really want to figure out if we can get things to work the way they should work and how that can be done, because otherwise it's just kinda depressing.

Rupert made his call

Accepting the Democratic Party (on the whole) as left-wing instead of centre-right is to accept the far-right and active fascists' framing and Overton moving.

let's wallow in this for a second people, come on

i need downfall videos and i need mad world videos

Trump dropping fast in PA. It's all over.