GET OUT: US politics November 2020

Re: posts from YMP and tipsy mothra, of course the parties aren't the same. One is a socially liberal, economically neoliberal party that at least pretends to be on the side of the population, though also spends a lot of time enriching corporations. The other is a socially fascistic, economically neoliberal party that exists for the sole purpose of enriching corporations and making life miserable for anyone who isn't rich and white.

The commonality between the two parties is large enough that sometimes it becomes easy to become frustrated and conflate then. I understand that frustration in myself, and I understand it in a lot of other people.

The other issue is related to the representational politics that have been talked about a bit in this thread already, but many people on the left (and perhaps some of those minorities who went for Trump) are tired of representational politics standing in for actual substantive work on major issues. That is, we're tired of being seen as a guaranteed vote and not receiving much in return.

So, you take those two huge issues, and I think it's pretty easy to understand why people get so goddamn frustrated with Dems and don't trust them at all.

Hey Americans

STAR: Grumpy Trumpy set to lose bigly #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/EwDB9r7TXW

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) November 5, 2020

there are some differences at the local level that will make for strange bedfellows at times though.

plus the issue of their declining to take obvious, popular, and achievable actions to improve the country or stop the opposition, some of which is explained by the other reasons but not all

america's system of government.....sucks ass is how I break it down to an extent

Katherine otm

and the shit rolls downhill -- so you end up with local governments being blamed for the ass sucking nature at the federal level, etc.

so T, tell me more about this nice radical landshare spot with the chill lake/river

― sarahell, Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:49 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Also me but looking at every 2+ acre parcel for under $30k in the Northeast with a stream and a southern exposure. ilxors unite.

Uh oh!

Panic-stricken Donald Trump Jr. calls for 'total war' in clueless tweet https://t.co/o6Nmpzfc4K pic.twitter.com/VO02SlI1Do

— New York Post (@nypost) November 5, 2020

But then we have to think about who was in power when, let's say, parts of the Bay Area were sold wholesale to Chinese LLCs and techies. Sure, it was easier to get food stamps, and getting stuff done at City Hall was great, but...

“He’s going to go through some of those numbers, which I think is pretty clever.”

getting stuff done at City Hall was great, but...

lol ... very little gets done there ... oh unless you are talking about San Francisco, the functional city

Love how three weeks ago the NY Post was all "We have the scoop that will change the election!" and now is just clowning on the failson on 'their' side instead.

And before I get pushback on that, a huge number of properties were purchased sight unseen by Chinese LLCs in Oakland in the late aughts and early teens. My husband is Hong Kong Chinese, and he would agree with me on my characterization of that dynamic.

NEW: Trump & his aides want to move ahead w/firing a few top officials like Esper and Wray and signing a slew of executive orders to make Trump look as presidential as possible, as his campaign disputes ballots and Biden kicks up his transition team.https://t.co/RlJDCGcccU

— Nancy Cook (@nancook) November 5, 2020

Only a president can resign the presidency, he should think about that, it's exclusively presidential.

tipsy, you misunderstood me: I'm agreeing with you

The pivot to presidentialness begins

It'd be downright ... unpresidented.

But first, we'll be treated to a bit of light whining, followed by a more substantial course of lies and distortions.

I think it's pretty easy to understand why people get so goddamn frustrated with Dems and don't trust them at all.

Well yes, and me too. But I also think, and the point of my original post, is that a lot of the actual working difference it makes to have a center-left party in power rather than a far-right party is not immediately apparent on the surface but still significant and far-reaching.

And sure, having a center-left party in power does not keep rich people from getting richer or properties from being snapped up by corporate entities. But you can make some difference around the margins of those dynamics. If you really want to make rich people poor and control private property transfers, you need something more like an authoritarian state.

xpost to Alfred: Right, sorry, I was spinning off of your point, not arguing with it.

Maybe he’ll do another Pavarotti impression.

caek that judge quote is amazing

Bay Area real estate speculation is very bipartisan ... . I'm just thinking from the perspective of someone who works for non-profit orgs that get local gov't funding, which of course is complicated by state government often being intermediaries, and this is like the first time CA has had two democrat governors in a row since ...the 1880s. But often, when Republicans are in power, the majority of the funding going to cities is for roads and cops, and when Democrats are in power, there is money for other things.

Ahahaha MSNBC just cut him off after 10 seconds

lol MSNBC just cut its transmission of Trump's speech

Miles Taylor is out at Google. https://t.co/AnHN7Ng4Li

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) November 5, 2020

Now he’s basically got just going straight out for saying that the states that are cheating him out a victory are all run by democrats, which will probably come as a shock to the governor of Georgia

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 5, 2020

CNN is running an endless stream of 1000% lies from the President's facehole. Good to see they've learnt their lesson over the last five years!

trump "won pennsylvania by a lot", he says

Tipsy, the Dems are a center-right party.

All network news has cut away from him.

damn that's cold, and it was just dude's birthday the other day, and Scorpios, we remember when people do us dirty

whining like a real winner right now

All network news has cut away from him.

that was in re: the governor of Georgia not Trump who is a Gemini and has all the flaws of his sign

:)

Fox and CNN still showing him

if only one person in the press room was gonna change jobs anyway and would shout You're Fired right now... my god for the chance to do that

Georgia lead down to 3600

you know it's bad when daniel dale says it's the most dishonest speech by trump he's ever seen

Again, pfft.

He is promising “a lot of litigation“ that he hopes ends up in front of the Supreme Court, right after he said that he thinks he will win the election “very easily“

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 6, 2020

the most litigation. the biggest litigation. covered in honey mustard

hehe, the last question shouted at him before the mic cut off on the White House feed was "are you being a sore loser??"

difference of 3,635 votes in Georgia now

He genuinely didn’t see this coming, did he? Truly an unbelievably damaged person.

It’s looking like it could be Biden by 2000

wow georgia's going to put biden at 269 ...

...

nice,,,,

double nice

Fox's John Roberts reporting from the White House mildly calling BS

and the percentage of remaining votes that Biden needs to win in GA keeps going down.