GET OUT: US politics November 2020

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Maybe it's been mentioned in the CA thread, but the fact that Kamala Harris' BIL is head of legal for Uber and that one of their main labor consultants is an ex-Harris staffer does not inspire confidence.

oof.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:40 (five years ago)

Very real chance that Trump will be appointed Prime Minister of Florida.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:40 (five years ago)

Yeah I mean Kamala Harris (looks around for Shakey) is a cop and she sucks let’s be real

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:40 (five years ago)

Do you think he’s yelling at the TV, is yelling from the toilet, or both

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:40 (five years ago)

I'm 100% certain of little in life, but I am absolutely certain Trump has at least one TV in view from his shitter.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:41 (five years ago)

I am more happy about the symbolism of Harris than the candidate herself, sure, but I'll take it

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:41 (five years ago)

He's probably yelling *at* the toilet. "Why won't you flush!?!??!?!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:42 (five years ago)

Who needs a secdef, really

NBC reporting that @EsperDoD has prepared a letter of resignation.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) November 5, 2020

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:42 (five years ago)

this is absolutely true btw

Trump lost Arizona because he's scared to be too far away from the Home Toilet. https://t.co/wYIMukLzMh

— man it’s a hot zone, (@Mobute) November 5, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:43 (five years ago)

Aw, a shame.

Hard to overstate how angry Trump's advisers are at Fox right now. Just incandescent.

— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) November 5, 2020

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:43 (five years ago)

So Trump will not concede, right? The presidential race, at least. He's already lost the plumbing race.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:43 (five years ago)

re: NV/AZ Fox

In 2004 Fox called Ohio for Bush long before anyone else did, and then held off on calling FL even though everyone else had called it, just so they wouldn't be the first to call the election for Bush.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:43 (five years ago)

So I get the psychological impact of the early Fox call on Arizona, but they do realize that didn't change any actual votes, right?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:44 (five years ago)

What the hell is going on with az? Why is it so up in the air?

GET OUT: US politics November 2020

@oneposter (✔️) (sic), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:45 (five years ago)

Caek, I was told there would not be any math on the test

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:45 (five years ago)

Yeah I mean Kamala Harris (looks around for Shakey) is a cop and she sucks let’s be real

― all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, November 5, 2020 1:40 PM (twenty-one seconds ago)

at this point "sucks" is relative ... she sucks less than Biden, or rather, their hazard level due to sucking is much lower than those of Trump and the toxic waste of his administration... though a sliver of hope remains with the prospect that someone more progressive gets to take over her senate seat.

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:46 (five years ago)

Gotta say just waiting around for Trump to officially lose is giving me a weird feeling I haven’t felt in years

frogbs, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:46 (five years ago)

I am more happy about the symbolism of Harris than the candidate herself, sure, but I'll take it

― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, November 5, 2020 1:41 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I too am overjoyed that our overlords are becoming more diverse. The rainbow flags on cop cars parked while they beat the shit out of peaceful protestors is especially inspiring.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:46 (five years ago)

so T, tell me more about this nice radical landshare spot with the chill lake/river

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:49 (five years ago)

You've got a lot more faith in Newsom than I do, Sarahell

Fetchboy, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:49 (five years ago)

hire more female prison guards etc

||||||||, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:49 (five years ago)

Sarahell, I'm working on it.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:50 (five years ago)

You've got a lot more faith in Newsom than I do, Sarahell

― Fetchboy, Thursday, November 5, 2020 1:49 PM (thirty-six seconds ago)

I said "sliver" ... like barely any really ... but it's not over until it's over ... and geez, Dianne can't you retire soon?

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:51 (five years ago)

What the hell is going on with az? Why is it so up in the air?

GET OUT: US politics November 2020

― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:45 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah tbh it looks like he's going to lose arizona. so does that mean he needs another state besides nevada? it's looking like pa is good. nv and pa and then he wins? sorry i'm so bad at math

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:52 (five years ago)

This is what keeps me nervous, everyone seems to have been insistent that AZ was a given and now it's.... not?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:52 (five years ago)

Honestly, my sliver of hope is more like "appoint someone like Libby Schaaf or London Breed" and then Oakland or SF can get a better mayor

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:52 (five years ago)

I for one appreciate sarahell's sliver

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:53 (five years ago)

xp to map
yes, NV is not enough to clinch it without one of: PA, AZ, or GA (or NC I guess)

rob, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:53 (five years ago)

This is what keeps me nervous, everyone seems to have been insistent that AZ was a given and now it's.... not?

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:52 PM (forty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

right like i don't care that fox/ap called arizona.. it's not looking good there atm

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:53 (five years ago)

god this really is a pants-wetter lol

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:54 (five years ago)

I'm sure both Schaaf and Breed are grooming themselves (and being groomed) for eventual replacement of Feinstein and Pelosi tbh

sarahell, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:54 (five years ago)

https://www.reuters.com/live-events/election-2020-15-id2942501

this is the vote-count tracker I use from the UK, so it is probably no good!

calzino, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:55 (five years ago)

winning Nancy Pelosi’s seat doesn’t make one speaker of the house fortunately

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:56 (five years ago)

So I get the psychological impact of the early Fox call on Arizona, but they do realize that didn't change any actual votes, right?


He is extremely superstitious and specifically a believer in the power of positive thinking so I’m guessing not.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:56 (five years ago)

Maybe it's been mentioned in the CA thread, but the fact that Kamala Harris' BIL is head of legal for Uber and that one of their main labor consultants is an ex-Harris staffer does not inspire confidence.

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:38 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean, maybe, but not necessarily, lots of people have inlaws who suck

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:56 (five years ago)

(to the brother-in-law part)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:57 (five years ago)

just to remind everyone (as Ned has many times), if he wins PA, it's over. and it's very very likely he's gonna win PA (maybe even tonight?)

he's probably winning NV as well, though we may not know until tomorrow. so even if you throw PA out, he could still win with AZ, NC, or GA. Arizona isn't looking great and I think the wonky way mail-ins are being counted caused Fox and AP to call it prematurely. But he's still alive there. NC, I dunno, looks like it'll be close but Trump will probably win. GA on the other hand is looking quite good for Biden right now

frogbs, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:57 (five years ago)

xp to map
yes, NV is not enough to clinch it without one of: PA, AZ, or GA (or NC I guess)


This is not true. He wins by one vote with Nevada.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

Yup. NE-2, doing the business.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

Breaking: as expected, Biden just took the lead in Lehigh Co. (Allentown) by 4k votes (2.8%) and his lead there is poised to climb much higher w/ subsequent batches.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 5, 2020

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

Dem centrism worked with Clinton and Obama, two incredibly gifted politicians

Depends on what you mean by worked. For them personally, absolutely. But they cost a lot of other centrist Democrats their jobs and made it impossible for centrist Democrats to govern because of those losses.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

Oh wait sorry Arizona. Right.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

i agree, and i also think we're not going to have the chance to find out for a few years because he's going to try to stay involved, which is in many ways worse news for the GOP than the fact they've lost their (unique, unrepeatable) leader.

Yes, once the Tump is out of power, I'm like "oh by all means, GOP, hitch your entire strategy on the personality quirks of this one disgraced, sad, tired, and flawed individual."

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

So Trump will not concede, right?

Why would someone who has won an election concede?

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:59 (five years ago)

He wins by one vote with Nevada and Arizona. Sorry I’m trying to delete it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:59 (five years ago)

Trump freaking out about Fox calling PA suggests he knows it’s happening tonight

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:59 (five years ago)

Oh and for sleeve

gotta admit I am really enjoying the slow motion steamroller aspect of all this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NmO4HFSr1g

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:01 (five years ago)

Dem centrism worked with Clinton and Obama, two incredibly gifted politicians
Depends on what you mean by worked. For them personally, absolutely. But they cost a lot of other centrist Democrats their jobs and made it impossible for centrist Democrats to govern because of those losses.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, November 5, 2020 1:58 PM (forty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

milo OTM. It also didn't work for a lot of the US populace.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:01 (five years ago)

He wins by one vote with Nevada and Arizona. Sorry I’m trying to delete it.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:59 PM (thirty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah but again - doesn't look good in arizona. so he needs pa. which he's currently behind in. quite a bit! but it looks good.. in the future.. the next few hours.. hopefully *bites nails*

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:02 (five years ago)

Here's a county-level map of swing in vote margin* toward Biden (blue) or Trump (red) versus the results of the 2016 election. The story is: urban-rural polarization + Dem suburban gains + GOP Latino gains

*Numbers are projected for counties that aren't fully reporting results pic.twitter.com/r9G0bo5NO6

— G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) November 5, 2020



It’s going to take weeks to figure this out, and not to diminish the organising work in Arizona, but I wonder how much of the difference in the Latino vote between Arizona and the RGV was down to the fact that, just like any other group, they have a stronger tendency to vote Republican in rural areas and vote democrat in cities, and Arizona is basically all cities.

(Obviously the Miami situation seems different)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:02 (five years ago)


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