GET OUT: US politics November 2020

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c'mon Braves fans

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:48 (five years ago)

Homophobia is prevalent in so many non-white cultures, it's part of the white supremacist agenda but can and does exist elsewhere. xpost

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:48 (five years ago)

Kind of comforting that no other Republican (besides Rudy) is playing along with what Trump’s trying to do right now

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:48 (five years ago)

some of them are vaguely familiar with wanting to have a career after Trump

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:49 (five years ago)

who they have probably concluded will die when his veins congeal and turn into Cheez Wiz

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:50 (five years ago)

Homophobia is prevalent in so many non-white cultures, it's part of the white supremacist agenda but can and does exist elsewhere. xpost

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, November 4, 2020 10:48 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

you're really close to getting it!

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:50 (five years ago)

Homophobia is universal.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:50 (five years ago)

I was really getting serious about leaving the country last night.

devil wears nada (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:51 (five years ago)

Kind of comforting that no other Republican (besides Rudy) is playing along with what Trump’s trying to do right now

― frogbs, Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:48 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

probably because it doesn't seem to be successful

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:52 (five years ago)

Kind of comforting that no other Republican (besides Rudy) is playing along with what Trump’s trying to do right now

― frogbs, woensdag 4 november 2020 23:48 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yep:

This is an important note.

They may be signaling that they will not go along with Trump efforts to stop vote counts, etc. if it is clear that Biden has won. https://t.co/I2KgD6NXA3 https://t.co/sMr4EiFvFv

— FiveThirtyEight (@FiveThirtyEight) November 4, 2020

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:52 (five years ago)

they're through with him too i think

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:53 (five years ago)

oh my god are we really falling for this again; the only reason why it appears they are opposing it is because it seems likely trump won't pull it off.

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:53 (five years ago)

The Republican political project is better served with Biden eating the shit sandwich of the next two years than Trump.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:53 (five years ago)

xposts
if 99% of the vote is already in in Georgia, doesn't that mean there are <60,000 votes outstanding?

Dan S, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:54 (five years ago)

The Republican political project is better served with Biden eating the shit sandwich of the next two years than Trump.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 10:53 PM (thirty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah at this point it's just realpolitik

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

whenever mitch mcconnell, lindsey graham, susan collins, mitt romney, etc. appear to be "signaling they will not go along with trump," with few exceptions, that signal disappears when it becomes clear trump will get his way

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

GOP eazy breezy plan of lay low for 2 years and blame everything on the Democrats seems to work pretty well.

earlnash, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

tbc he has to officially lose first

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

a postmortem for the lincoln project, who are presumably moving on to cushy media gigs:

Their ads focused on trying to court disaffected Republican voters and attack Trump’s character, as Biden loaded up the Democratic convention with GOP speakers. When polls during the summer showed that the strategy wasn’t working, galaxy brain Rahm Emanuel defended it to a national televised audience, insisting that 2020 would be “the year of the Biden Republican.”

Now survey data show the strategy epically failed, as Trump actually garnered even more support from GOP voters than in 2016. Indeed, Edison Research exit polls on Tuesday found that 93 percent of Republican voters supported Trump — three percentage points higher than in 2016, according to numbers from the same firm.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:56 (five years ago)

McConnell are delighted they're gonna have an easy four years kickin' it as fake legislators no longer forced by Kasie Hunt to respond to the latest Trump outrage.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:57 (five years ago)

Welp, time to double down on that strategy again I guess.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:58 (five years ago)

yeah I have to imagine McConnell and co are delighted by this result for the most part

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:58 (five years ago)

xposts I think there are some 170k ballots left to count in GA.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

this is just too much like an abusive relationship or that Danish tv show I watched last week where there was a violent rapist but the sadistic one was his partner who would let the victim escape briefly only to be recaptured.

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

xp to Simon
no need to guess: https://www.axios.com/scoop-the-lincoln-project-is-becoming-a-media-business-f366aea2-d730-4ad3-a601-e8380ebf96e8.html

rob, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:00 (five years ago)

Feel like there are still 3-4 variations on this they can run with over the next decade.

“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:00 (five years ago)

(xxp yeah I see WP NYT and Fox are all reporting different percentages of the oustanding vote in GA)

Dan S, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:00 (five years ago)

Georgia has been called for Michael Dukakis

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:00 (five years ago)

pic.twitter.com/BWOh4TMwsP

— Holly Herndon (@hollyherndon) November 4, 2020

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:01 (five years ago)

We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, Your Mom

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

hahaha

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

BBQ
BEER
FREEDOM

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

The moment when Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project tweeted out that Eric Garland tweet being trashed up thread was the telling moment.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:03 (five years ago)

Trump losing and having to stay in power until Jan 20 will be wild.

Position Position, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:03 (five years ago)

GOP eazy breezy plan of lay low for 2 years and blame everything on the Democrats seems to work pretty well.

Enforce rigid austerity in a deep recession, hold the budget hostage, probably refuse to let Biden replace Breyer. McConnell might be experiencing his first erection in decades.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:03 (five years ago)

while I do like to think about penises, Mitch McConnell's penis is not something I want to consider except in the context of leprosy

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:04 (five years ago)

AP calling it

lukas, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:05 (five years ago)

xp the Atlanta Journal-Constitution says that about 163,000 absentee ballots remained to be counted as of 5:50 EST

https://www.ajc.com/politics/about-200000-absentee-ballots-still-need-to-be-counted-in-georgia/BYGJAXV5FRBGBAMA6JPIC7ZL34/

Brad C., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:05 (five years ago)

AP calling it

― lukas, Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:05 PM (forty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

what is "it," I'm not seeing anything

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:05 (five years ago)

wait yeah now i can't see it either

lukas, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:06 (five years ago)

calling it how it is

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:06 (five years ago)

it's it

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:07 (five years ago)

With Nevada releasing additional ballots today, Biden now has a reasonable path to clearing the 270 electoral vote threshold tonight https://t.co/LFIErxoj2T

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) November 4, 2020

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:07 (five years ago)

Is AZ still in doubt?

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:08 (five years ago)

the AP calls the things the rest of us are thinking but too afraid to call

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:08 (five years ago)

Nate Silver just posted this overview:

Here’s where the presidential race stands from most likely Trump win to least likely Trump win:

North Carolina. Trump leads by 1.4 points or about 77,000 votes, but mail ballots can arrive after Election Day in North Carolina, so perhaps 5 percent of the vote is still outstanding. The mail vote should be pretty blue in North Carolina, but is it enough to flip the state? Probably not, according to The Upshot’s needle, which gave Biden about a 15 percent chance in North Carolina before it was frozen. I’d call this one Likely Trump, although 15 percent chances aren’t zero, obviously!

Georgia. Trump leads by 78,000 votes without around 200,000 votes outstanding (there’s some uncertainty over the exact number). That gap seems like a tall order for Biden to close, but the remaining vote is expected to be very blue: mail votes from blue counties plus some Election Day votes from predominantly Black precincts in blue counties. The Upshot’s needle actually had Biden slightly favored to pull it off as of last night. We’ll know more soon. Let’s say Toss-up, but you could force me into Lean Biden if you told me I had to make a pick.

Pennsylvania. As expected, far more uncounted votes here than elsewhere, mostly mail votes that should be quite Democratic-leaning, though. There are too many outstanding ballots for us to be in the endgame where we can game out exact scenarios, but in counties that have completed reporting, Biden looks to be hitting the targets he needs. Even with the Trump campaign filing a number of lawsuits, the margin is tightening quickly enough that I think this belongs in Lean Biden.

Arizona. We may need to do a longer post on Arizona later. What’s left to count is mostly mail votes that were returned late in the process — on Monday or Tuesday. There’s some ambiguity about how many ballots this actually is; Edison Research seems to think around 450,000. If so, Trump would need to win those votes by 21 points to overtake Biden’s current 93,000-vote lead. They’re distributed fairly evenly throughout the state.

Wait — outstanding mail votes? Shouldn’t those be good for Biden, as they are in other states? Well, not necessarily, because Republicans have a fairly strong mail voting program in Arizona and — this is the key part — the mail ballots that were returned later in the process (the ones yet to be counted) were significantly redder than the ones that came in earlier on, as Democrats sent their votes in early. For instance, the party registration breakdown of the votes that came in Monday and Tuesday was: 23 percent Democratic, 44 percent Republican, and 33 percent independent or other parties. That is to say, a 21-point GOP edge, which would put Trump on track to tie things up.

But … here’s the bad news for Trump. Party registration may be a misleading indicator in Arizona. The state has a lot of ancestral Republicans who have now turned into swing voters. Biden also had a big lead among independents in polls. And earlier batches of mail ballots were considerably stronger for Biden than party registration alone would suggest. So probably these ballots are going to come in more for Trump than for Biden, but not as strongly as he needs.

There’s also the fact that two other news organizations, the Associated Press and Fox News, have called the state for Biden. I’d assume they’ve looked into this more than I have, so that shifts my priors a bit, but you never know and you do get incorrect calls occasionally. Overall, I’d say this is Likely Biden, but I don’t think the state should have been called yet.

Nevada. This one’s a bit more straightforward. Biden leads by only 0.6 percent, or about 7,500 votes. But what’s remaining should be pretty good for him. It’s all mail-in ballots that were either received late in the process or that are still coming in — in Nevada, mail ballots can be received by Nov. 10 provided they’re postmarked by Election Day. The mail ballots were quite blue in Nevada by party registration, much more so than in Arizona, including votes that arrived relatively late in the process. Likely Biden.

Wisconsin. No known votes left to be counted. The Trump campaign says it will seek a recount, but recounts rarely change results, and certainly not with something on the magnitude of Biden’s 20,000-vote lead. Biden is the “apparent winner,” per ABC News.

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:08 (five years ago)

Georgia sounds good from the linked thread in this tweet:

These mail votes coming in Georgia are 20-30pts better for Biden than a normal county baseline. Gotta see how exactly the Fulton/DeKalb/Chatham/etc numbers look but I see no reason why he can’t do it. https://t.co/7MALAuPcH7

— Conor Sen (@conorsen) November 4, 2020

tl;dr Biden is doing well in areas Trump needs to win the state before the Atlanta votes come in

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:09 (five years ago)

Biden's gonna do his acceptance speech, and Trump will literally go on tv at the same time, you watch

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:10 (five years ago)

when even comedian Steve Hofstetter is running statistical models showing an optimistic GA outcome, it's time to take serious

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:10 (five years ago)

So the senate: basically if you include King and Sanders in the "D" camp, we'd need to win seats in MI, NC, and both runoffs in GA to get a majority, and any three of those to have Harris as tiebreaking vote?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:13 (five years ago)


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