GET OUT: US politics November 2020

otm, nobody should regret that damn slogan

Hold up, so if reporting is accurate, there are hundreds of thousands of ballots that didn't get delivered in time across the country? Which is exactly what people predicted might happen? Add up those votes and maybe this election would be less of a squeaker after all.

yes the Senate is disappointing but if Biden wins let’s allow ourselves to be a little fucking happy. like Neanderthal says - all those ghouls like devos will be gone. the key is to win and keep winning. it won’t happen all at once.

Feeling that, Neanderthal.

at some point you have to do and say the right thing even if there's a risk that Joe Shlabotnik from Needlefuck, Indiana, has a visceral reaction to it because he thinks Antifa is going to commandeer his house.

It’ll only happen once

That slogan was way more useful politically to the authoritarians than it was to those of us who want to reform adversarial policing...

it's gonna suck to go without the senate but the latest is that it's looking like joe biden has a better than 50% chance of eeking out a win in the ec - is this what i'm seeing / hearing?

Well, I can tell you "defund the police" had an impact in Miami-Dade, thanks to relentless Spanish TV Trump ads. And I like the slogan.

xxxpost even if the message had been softer ("Transform the Police!", "Improve the Police!", "Help the Police!", "Hump the Police!"), I doubt people woulda stopped considering us all commie libtards and suddenly threw us votes

it's gonna suck to go without the senate but the latest is that it's looking like joe biden has a better than 50% chance of eeking out a win in the ec - is this what i'm seeing / hearing?

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 10:51 AM bookmarkflaglink

think it's like 90% or higher now

ilx is twitter now, sorry

― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 10:40 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

turns out the guy i posted deleted his tweet because he misunderstood the info, a good sign for me to stop scrolling for a minute

i know it's not going to make much material difference but symbolically i think it's such a big deal to get rid of the abusive wasteman... i mean, that alone is enough to stop the wall construction, right?

xp to neanderthal oh my god. still i don't want to get my hopes up.

This was Trump’s election to lose and he’s maybe done so by heart-attackingly close electoral college margins, the death cult vote will remain when the urgency felt by white liberals has wandered elsewhere

yeah I still feel like I have a man tapping on my chest from the inside a bit

did anyone else have the most epic nightmares of their life last night

the slogan could have been "please stop shooting us good sirs we love you" and it would have made no fucking difference

i purposely took a non-prescription sleep aid so i would have no dreams

i purposely took a non-prescription sleep aid so i would have no dreams

― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 3:56 PM (twenty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ysi lmao

I dreamt that my wife told me that Justin Beiber died.

oh wait yeah non-prescription - been thinking unisom might be a good idea

My dreams are always about like being at work or trying to go pee or something

I slept pretty well last night all things considered, but I made sure not to bring any electronic devices to bed so as not to be tempted when I woke up my usual 1-3 times.

at a certain point, when a slogan like "Black Lives Matter" sends ppl into fits -- just fuck them all

if {amorphous, undefined group of humans} had said {what i wanted about my pet issue} {outcome} would not have happened

Why is everyone down on the Senate? From what I can tell isn't it going to be 49-49 pending two GA runoffs?

You're looking at a senate majority lost by perhaps a few thousand votes, and from the perspective of having never seeing the ads microtargeted at undecideds.

At that point, pretty much everything makes a difference. A leaked memo from FBI director Comey makes a difference, etc.

As for sleep aids, I'm a big fan of melatonin. Some interesting literature on Covid19 prophylaxis/severity there too, though no RCTs.

Sanpaku don’t forget to shut the fuck up

Tracer otm, the steps are: 1. Obtain power, 2. Use that power to make things better, 3. Repeat as necessary.

Map, I lost my glasses while a bit tipsy last night. I then had three separate dreams that all were about finding them. So the opposite of an anxiety dream. When I woke up for real my daughter had found my glasses.

at a certain point, when a slogan like "Black Lives Matter" sends ppl into fits -- just fuck them all

― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 7:58 AM (seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

And if your response to electoral losses is that people should ask for THEIR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS more politely, then you are a coward and a racist afaic.

Here's another thing:

white people use "Latinx"

I've never a single South or Central American use it, even in the 18-25 set.

My wife is 41 and Costa Rican, and most of her progressive/feminist friends use either "latinx" or "latine". The latter is mostly used is Spanish-speaking countries, I think, but according to her, "latinx" is not uncommon in Central America either. Isn't its origin in the Mexican community in the US? At least that's what my wife says.

only slept for 4 hours, so only had the weird sex dream described upthread.

sleep aids:
- a sliver of indica-based weed oil
- melatonin
- regular exercise

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Once somebody reported that AZ was looking good for Biden last night, I took the opportunity to go to bed on a bit of good news. Slept surprisingly well, got up early and waited until after breakfast to check the news. But since then I’ve been obsessively refreshing this thread and other news sources and trying not to lose my mind. Feeling ok at this point, not happy about the margins or the Senate but I’ll take a Biden win.

After recount in 2011 race for WI Supreme Court, there was a swing of 300 votes. After recount in 2016 Presidential race in WI, @realDonaldTrump numbers went up by 131.

As I said, 20,000 is a high hurdle. #Election2020 https://t.co/CEr82eiCWH

— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) November 4, 2020

That slogan was way more useful politically to the authoritarians than it was to those of us who want to reform adversarial policing...

I don't want to get into all the problematic assumptions implicit in this sentence, (mainly because there are a bunch of other ilxors who can do this better) but the key problematic thing here is the word "was" -- as in assuming that "defund the police" is "over" and not a continuing battle that people have fought and will continue to fight independent of these elections. ... Talking about in the past tense is a bit insulting, especially to people for whom this is their major issue.

one of the big shifts in my perception of politics came when Arnold Schwarzenegger won as the governor of California (as a Republican no less!), because that was my first sign that the American electorate, even in progressive areas, treated politics with the seriousness as a teenager like myself

I'm starting to think that maybe we are overthinking this stuff a little. ILX and most of the people I follow on Twitter are very tuned into politics and it gives me a distorted perception of what the real world is like. It's funny how both sides whine about how there isn't enough substantive policy discussion but still tend to cast their votes for whoever's got the most name recognition. Dubya doesn't fit into this mold but obviously Reagan and Trump do. Reagan as celebrity-turned-politician, Trump as still a celebrity first and foremost, with a political title, but no real interest in the job itself. The last 2 Dem presidents on the other hand were politicians-turned-celebrities, I think both Clinton and Obama had that Michael Jordan/Tom Hanks level "presence" that made them larger than life. I still think Obama is the most skilled politician I've ever seen in my life due to his ability to turn it on and off like that. Joe Biden on the other hand does not have it and Hillary Clinton very much did not have it.

It's amusing/weird that the "Hollywood Dems" are the one who put up the "I'm just a good ol' boy from Scranton" candidate while the "working class conservatives" ran a dude who has literally nothing in common with his voters, outside of the general brain damage. The Democrats have a lot of very important things to do but when it comes to future elections, they very much need to start finding people who fit that mold. The fact that Mayor Pete gained so much traction despite being one of the most fake-ass and boring politicians I've ever seen in my life speaks to that. Bernie is the best they've got right now and yes it's disappointing he lost but I suspect the simple explanation was: he's not as popular as the dude who was Obama's VP. Obviously it's not really about policy, otherwise Jay Inslee would've made inroads instead of being just another generic white guy on the debate stage. Anyway, what I'm trying to say at the end of all this is: I really do believe AOC is the future of the party. Quite literally.

also not trying to trigger anybody, don't take this to mean AZ is reversed, but:

"So, earlier I said that Biden had a lead in Arizona of around 3.5 points with about 99 percent of the expected vote in. It turns out that there may have been some sort of issue with Edison Research’s data stream, however, and there may actually be less of the expected vote in. That obviously matters as the vote has trended toward Trump since Biden led after the initial vote returns were announced in Arizona. All we know is that Biden is ahead and that some votes remain to be counted in Arizona."

from 538

(btw I'm fully aware that this is very obvious to you but it is clear that Trump's star power is so much more important than his lawbreaking and multiple catastrophic failures)

(AZ becomes moot if he wins WI, MI, and PA though, i think.)

if Biden wins, at least executive orders get reversed, Barr is gone, and Trump and cronies are open to prosecution.

amen. preach it.

Biden’s just gonna blanket pardon them on day 1 to bring the country together

look i have little faith in Biden either but he is not going to pardon any of these clowns

Why is everyone down on the Senate? From what I can tell isn't it going to be 49-49 pending two GA runoffs?

― the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:59 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's currently 47-47 on the NYT map, with 6 uncalled races.

It seems likely that Susan Collins (R-ME), Dan Sullivan (R-AK), Thom Tillis (R-NC), and Gary Peters (D-MI) will win, which would make it 50-48.

Which would mean Dems would need to win both races in Georgia to tie. One of them is definitely going to a run-off, but it's possible that Perdue can still beat Ossoff outright with >50%.

I think in Maine there are still a ton of absentee ballots to count? I haven’t given up on that Senate seat yet.

xp Dems picked up CO and AZ but lost AL, so it might just be a +1 pickup when all is said and done.

Hope you're right, epi!

here's my election night story. i get home from work. i'm getting ready to do my post-work self-care routine which is do yoga while listening to high on fire. i fire up itunes and press play - nothing. i notice my external hard drive is making a very quiet beeping sound and the light isn't going on. i try plugging it into other ports, other computers - nothing. i knew that drive was going to fail and i ordered another external a few months ago but managed to not back anything up because you know i can barely get through the day some days. that is thousands of dollars of music and five years of collecting, folks. even if it's saveable that's going to put me out a couple hundo at least. more than i really have right now.

so i'm processing that and i log into ilx just when the florida shit is going down. have a panic attack. lay down. breathing fast and hard. can't really speak for a half hour or so. my boyfriend asks if there's anything he can do and i request a media black-out night, take-out and playing a board game. we do all of that except the board game, which is ticket to ride, and i don't want to stare at a map of the country. take a melatonin and two tylenol, drift off. my epic nightmare lasts for what seems like hours. rollercoaster ride between biden winning and then trump winning. lots of crying. i thing part of why this whole thing has been so unexpectedly triggering for me is four years ago i was in a really vulnerable place and this hit deep.

finally check things at 5:30 this morning, convince myself this is going to go to the supreme court like trump has been bragging all along, at which point he will be installed as dictator three months from now, take some cbd/thc gummies, go work out (last two things have been hugely helpful today), come home, hug my boyfriend and cry, and now get the news that biden will probably still win, AND encounter the vim and vigor of up-and-at-em ilxors. i'm about to make some coffee. so things are looking up.