GET OUT: US politics November 2020

actually there is an easy answer to this and it's "no"

Yeah he's clearly not arguing for that, he's highlighting the challenges.

One sort of depressing thing is if it turns out Biden really did improve a lot among voters over 65, we can't just keep waiting for old ppl to die for things to get better ...

also i am going a bit mad with the rest of you looking at an america that's learned nothing and seems determined to look nothing. i agree that this looks like a biden win but this is gonna be so ugly for so long.

(much love to my lefty parents and aunts and uncles, I mean other old people)

this has not been my experience in the NY/NJ area, where it's been prevalent on paper and in parlance for a few years wherever colors mix in the progressive intelligentsia pool (and, for awhile at least, among a certain 12-20 y.o. middle class urbanite class) but that could well be in flux at the moment.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses),

Florida, as y'all are learning, is a straaaaaange place.

Simon H the leg shooting imagery was inspired by sic - so yes :)

ha well my (South American immigrants to USA) family do not belong to "the progressive intelligentsia pool" by any measure (I'm the first person in my family to go to college, like many here I imagine).

i really can't add much to the general mode except that i am focusing on the positive and trying not to let the "fuck" type posts affect how i'm evaluating everything. it's just hard r/n because it doesn't look like we'll have any new real news for hours, and yet how can i really completely look away?

also FYI every time i reload the bookmark, my brain is back to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWyUEuGcWY

So Trump going to court is a thing, but... with what? Is he just gonna stand there and beg? What's his complaint? That he lost?

also i am going a bit mad with the rest of you looking at an america that's learned nothing and seems determined to look nothing. i agree that this looks like a biden win but this is gonna be so ugly for so long.

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:44 AM (one minute ago)

this has not been my experience in the NY/NJ area, where it's been prevalent on paper and in parlance for a few years wherever colors mix in the progressive intelligentsia pool (and, for awhile at least, among a certain 12-20 y.o. middle class urbanite class) but that could well be in flux at the moment.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses),

Florida, as y'all are learning, is a straaaaaange place.

Idk what the Dems message is gonna be now but not having someone on TV 24/7 screaming about anarchists and rioters and how Covid is essentially over is probably a good thing for this nation

So Trump going to court is a thing, but... with what? Is he just gonna stand there and beg? What's his complaint? That he lost?

― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:46 AM bookmarkflaglink

he'd have to file lawsuits for every state he's disputing. and as we've seen earlier this week, the judge or judges being far right wing kooks doesn't mean the ruling will be in your favor.

this is why we need to win as many remaining states as possible. increase his workload if he wants to challenge.

he'll probably demand a few recounts where he's allowed to ,which is fine. recounts are fine.

The way America improves and “learns something” can only happen by shutting down Facebook. I am serious about this

The way America improves and “learns something” can only happen by shutting down Facebook mass, herculean effort on the part of an unprecedented number of activists

I guess one potential silver lining is if Trump isn’t President (and hopefully not long for this world), the GOP might have a hard time filling the role with someone who can martial 90% support all the time no matter what

Yeah, I predict a long war of attrition.

looking forward to the Facebook Divestiture Act, where they force Zuck to break up FB into 10 smaller social media sites with specialized focuses - i.e. Politicsbook, Eventbook, Buttbook, Shitpostbook, etc

*marshal

xxp yeah one thing that’s clear now is that Obama really was an exceptional candidate and I’m hoping in 4 years Republicans realize the same about Trump

a good idea is to underestimate the GOP's chances of finding a way to appeal to American voters

Here's another thing:

white people use "Latinx"

I've never a single South or Central American use it, even in the 18-25 set.

― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), miércoles 4 de noviembre de 2020

My experience is slightly different up in the Boston area. I've been hearing the term used with greater regularity among activist and progressive circles... but yeah, nowhere outside that.

Yeah. We are a nation/world fighting for the remaining scraps and that’s a pretty solid platform to run on for the remainder of humanity’s short life.

the Dems need a figure who can woo latino voters, exhibits media savvy, and can skew right on immigration. is Morrissey busy?

lol

And this is the way it ends.
Not with a bang but with a WI/MI/PA.

— Will Roscoe (@Goodish_Will) November 4, 2020

no

a good idea is to underestimate the GOP's chances of finding a way to appeal to American voters

the only people allowed to make terrible wimp-related acronym puns in 2020 are HAIM

This belongs in the 2020 headline time capsule: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/dead-coronavirus-candidate-elected

_a good idea is to underestimate the GOP's chances of finding a way to appeal to American voters_


oh they’ll win, probably sooner than later, but I’m just hoping the next retrograde garbage monster won’t be a ‘celebrity’ who manages to capture the imagination and adulation of so many people

KANYE 2024 pic.twitter.com/Zm2pKcn12t

— ye (@kanyewest) November 4, 2020

The senate. We (90% sure) didn’t win the senate.

As tipsy said, the worst of the “Biden wins” scenarios. I’m about to hate Mitch McConnell more than i ever thought possible.

And more than anything - no message was sent to the maga idiots. None at all. If anything I think this emboldens them

it was 'whimper', not wimp!

Don’t mean to catastrophize, but for example, the green new whatever, which is so huge because it’s meant to make up for years of inaction, now has zero chance to pass. Which means the next next green new whatever will have to be even more enormous to make up for now!

The fucking world is burning down!

KM last two posts otm

Feeling pessimistic about Nikki Haley v. Kamala Harris in four years...

(Haley is spending all morning tweeting congratulations at winning GOP candidates across the country. She's ready to roll.)

the green new whatever, which is so huge because it’s meant to make up for years of inaction, now has zero chance to pass

this assumes the Biden admin has any interest in advancing it in the first place

^

Biden already killed any chance of this happening.

I'm only marginally hispanic (1/4 Mexican) but my assessment of Latinx as a term is that it's only used by people on the left and predominantly by Millenials and whatever that generation is that is younger than them. And someone needs to stop looking at all 'hispanics' as a monolith because Mexican immigrants are not concerned with the same things anti-communist Cubans are.

so in that sense, I think 'latinx' is not a good term, in that it applies too broadly. TBH I did not realize anyone considered Cubans 'latino'.

So this is the perfect opportunity for Biden to demonstrate his genius for working across the aisle, right? RIGHT?!?

maybe by 2024 Kanye will figure out how to actually get his name on a ballot

Yes (xp to akm). My South American family immigrated, and keeps immigrating, to the USA to make money. They were anti-Indigenous, anti-Black racists in South American, and they're the same in the USA. There's no intersectionality. They're...Americans.

yeah I suspect there will be a lot of folks in Joe’s admin who are secretly very glad that the Senate likely remains in GOP hands

this assumes the Biden admin has any interest in advancing it in the first place

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:16 AM (four minutes ago)bookmarkflaglink

^

Biden already killed any chance of this happening.

― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:19 AM (one minute ago)

with 50 or more democratic senators, i'm confident that something would have passed. it wouldn't be the green dream whatever, but they would have passed some compromise bullshit (with 0 republican votes), and padded it out with infrastructure stuff, pushed it as more of a "jobs bill".

it's not controlling the senate that killed the chances of it happening

I know lil Tommy Friedman will be!!!

Karl OTM. The GOP Senate prevents much of *anything* happening (and not just on climate).

COVID-19 relief is the big one that will get fucked in the short-term

Only a ticket composed of Kanye West and Nathan East can unite the nation.

it's not all doom and gloom, of course. controlling the presidency is very important. i'm hopeful that a lot of the ROT of the trump administration can be cleaned out. it's going to be a big job. and the house will continue to say the right things and then send bills to the senate to die.

but still. covid-19 help? when can we get some more covid-19 help in this fucking country? ask mitch mcconnell

xp neanderthal, exactly