Marijuana: Classic or Dud?

Good luck to Jord and flopson.
I feel very lucky that I can go from smoking p much daily to, like now, a few times a month. Saving it for weekend hikes and music listening sessions. It's totally an "out of sight, out of mind" deal for me. What's weird tho is i don't think my tolerance "resets" when I go from daily to occasional use like it used to when I was younger.

out of sight out of mind actually works for me when i'm taking breaks. if i don't see my vape for a while i never think to use it

gonna give serious thought to spreading it out more after nov. 3 :)

thread is bumming me out

g/l flopson and j0rdan!!

Hoping legalization one day makes it here and I have easy access to the boutique stuff that's like 1:5 or 1:10 THC:CBD, which is the only time I could absolutely enjoy weed without worrying about rolling snake eyes this time and having a panic attack.

gonna give serious thought to spreading it out more after nov. 3 :)

yeah I don't think I can touch it until this is over

thx y’all

don’t mean to be anti weed or bum anyone out. i love the stuff and it shaped my life

nah it’s all good, man, just recognizing the same stuff in me

and told me “you’re very easy on yourself”

It me.

there were times where I’d be reading like a fn vox dot com article on my phone on a bus and could barely understand its main points lol

― flopson, Friday, October 30, 2020 10:01 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh btw flops i regret to inform you that this is more likely vox's problem than weed's

lol ya i was setting that one up for a zinger

meh SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY

420 smoke cats

good for you both flopson and j0rd, sounds like you are making healthy decisions

my edible consumption has skyrocketed during Covid and drinking too, might be a reckoning ahead of me

one thing it is quite bad for is my online poker game, I'll get pocket aces at one table and raise big, then 5 seconds later get lost in the sounds of "Franz Schubert" by Kraftwerk and forget I have pocket aces

I remember watching Belly as a teen and thinking “how in the hell can Lennox conduct these really important and dangerous business meetings smoking weed all the time???” Now I’m just like “lol”

whenever i was going through periods of stress/turmoil i’d wake up w bad anxiety (just waking up afraid, minutes before i even clue into what im scared of)

^^^^^^^^

this was a huge thing for me. waking up in a panic for no reason... just like scared about nothing bcuz i had only been up for 3 seconds. i would just refer to it as morning anxiety lol. that has melted away since i stopped which has been wonderful. the lack of brain fog has been a nice residual aspect of it too. i still spend 2 hours in bed every morning doing nothing but hey

i can't compare to booze, i've just never been a drinker in that way. i haven't been drunk all year, i've never kept liquor in the house, i just don't like it. after a long day, a beer or two is really nice. wanna get to that point w/ weed more or less. i had a dependency on it absolutely... my feeling was that there is basically no substance that would sound healthy when consumed in the qualities w/ which i was doing weed. probably not even water! it wasn't effecting my professional life at all, in fact this year was one of the better years for me in a while professionally. but i could recognize from an almost objective standpoint that it was a problem. i just had to hit a legit breaking point to actually take the step of stopping.

okay, get this. first of all, they opened a weed store RIGHT where i park my car in the morning. that is called TARGETED MARKETING. i went in there yesterday and got some excellent Camino gummies - seriously, they are the best. they make you feel like you are on drugs! - and the woman there says - this is about a week and a half since they opened - that they are REBRANDING - did i mention they have been open for a week and a half? - and that they are going to be called CHEECH AND CHONG'S DISPENSARIA!!!!

i live in a weird world. but now i am definitely holding on to their records cuz i don't care about records but i would definitely make an exception for CHEECH AND CHONG!!!!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/386635103_10161492694187137_4386652063825564138_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=6a0516&_nc_ohc=zmiK5qib_VUAX-RLvUv&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AfC9pZnS9uN2D4VivXHNi-txBt6aXU4AHDvrOWFcJDUwLA&oe=6521A8C0

i could have them sign the rolling paper in that album that came with a huge rolling paper!!!

that store opened up about 100 feet from the new CHILDREN'S SKATEPARK. which is some good synergy.

pretty soon it'll be Toby Keith's I Love This Cheech and Chong's Dispensaria

AND they are building a huge co-op market and a building with 60 apartments right there too. good spot for a weed spot.

i definitely have mostly negative feelings about the strip-mall-ization feeling that has accompanied legalization here. most of the shops in the city look and seem more like cheap cell phone depots or plasma donation centers than anything else. not to mention the litter from all the plastic packaging.

Like most drugs (I guess), weed affects different people differently. I can't function high. I mean, to the point where I can't even focus enough to read a page. And I often get feelings of paranoia. So, it's not for me, and I don't feel like I'm missing out.

I know plenty of other people, including my better half, who get lots of beneficial effects from it (e.g., alleviation of pain), and can function quite well, sometimes even better than they can not high.

I live in a state (GA) that has not legalized recreational use. I spend considerable time in two states (CA and CO) that do. I appreciate the good shops with knowledgeable staff, and I assume that eventually this will be a national market.

man, Cheech and Chong had a nice run of ambitious ass packaging for a bit.
Big Bambu = Mega Jumbo Rolling Paper (always missing from dollar bin copies)
Los Cochinos = elaborate die cut car door thing
Wedding Album = Wedding Album
and the big pill thing upthread

like jogging and its attendant runner's high, weed gets easier and better the more you do it

and I assume that eventually this will be a national market

Very probably, but at least here in CA, I think they've overbuilt the infrastructure - a lot of the legal cannabis business is really in the dregs now, it's a tough business

Forgot my monkeypipe at some bar so making do with this one hitter baseball bat fake cig thing it sucks

The only time I've really enjoyed weed it was in 3-5mg edible doses. Just enough to take the edge off reality without crippling cottonmouth.

kinda figured the free market was gonna kill the weed 'business' given how it's apparently pretty easy to grow large quantities in certain areas and the planet is so potent that a little goes a real long way. like I never thought $60 for a 1/8 oz. was a bad deal, that'll still get you nice and fucked up more times than $60 of equivilent alcohol, unless you're willing to drink those gasoline-flavored 40s they sell for a buck fifty. on the other hand even paying "just" $99 for an ounce of plant material is kind of insane isnt it?

Very probably, but at least here in CA, I think they've overbuilt the infrastructure - a lot of the legal cannabis business is really in the dregs now, it's a tough business

Yeah, that's the way generally with new markets. It will evolve eventually. I've been happy with my two experiences here in SoCal this week, one in Westwood and the other in Desert Hot Springs.

just wild that it still remains illegal where I live, even though thanks to the farm bill you can get all sorts of edibles which contain THC but at amounts that are just under the legal limit, which even at 0.3% still allows you to make some insanely potent stuff

Like most drugs (I guess), weed affects different people differently. I can't function high. I mean, to the point where I can't even focus enough to read a page. And I often get feelings of paranoia. So, it's not for me, and I don't feel like I'm missing out.

If you smoke or take gummies, you can get the right stuff. It's so easy these days. The wrong kind can bring on the paranoia; this no longer happens.

when smoking yeah the strain can make a huge difference but I'm not totally convinced with edibles

xp I get that, I'm just not motivated to try anything. I stopped drinking seven years ago, I really don't miss being impaired.

Forgot my monkeypipe at some bar

<3 monkeypipe

The strain stuff is all myth IIRC - relative levels of THC to other cannabinoids makes a difference but since 99% of weed sold is high THC/low everything else, the couch lock vs. energetic is all in your head maaaaaaaaaan.

Yeah, otm.

like jogging and its attendant runner's high

There's a huge psychological component to this, and cannabis. I listened to a long podcast about serotonin, and apparently the runner's high is backed up by data, but with a catch: it only happens if you already like running. That is, if you don't like running and are doing it under duress, just to get it done (like I do it, sometimes), no evidence of a runner's high, but if you are really into running, then it kicks in. I think the same is true for strains of weed, method of consumption, etc; the ritual and expectations and context are part of the experience. Kind of like those experiments where they give people non-alcoholic beer or wine and tell them its alcoholic and they behave accordingly.

So I don't think there's a definitive "this makes you happy" or "this makes you sleepy" or "this makes you creative" or "this makes you paranoid," and so on. I think there are a lot of factors at work.

A wide spectrum exists b/w couch-lock and energetic.

I do feel like eating weed/edibles just knocks me on my ass

Some friends swear by newer 'mellow' edibles but I don't think I'm ready

The strain stuff is all myth IIRC - relative levels of THC to other cannabinoids makes a difference but since 99% of weed sold is high THC/low everything else, the couch lock vs. energetic is all in your head maaaaaaaaaan.

Not really accurate in my experience. Some strains have the effect of more paranoia, some more euphoric. In terms of active compounds just for starters there’s the difference between THC-A and THC-B, I think there’s a lot left to uncover about the activity of cannabis. (Also low doses of other compounds could still have significant effects, not saying there’s some LSD equivalent in weed that’s undiscovered but just look at how potent acid is compared to other drugs — think micrograms vs milligrams).

yeah, I'm just not seeing how the range thing is a myth.

One of my worst ever weed experiences was watching the 2016 VP debate high. I was convinced everyone around me, and maybe even the people on TV, could hear my thoughts. In fact, that may be the last time I smoked.

Not sure I'm gonna blame that one completely on weed, though.

I also had this enormous sense of doom. Again, probably not the weed.

Roffle

The strain stuff is all myth IIRC - relative levels of THC to other cannabinoids makes a difference but since 99% of weed sold is high THC/low everything else, the couch lock vs. energetic is all in your head maaaaaaaaaan.

Agreed. Been into 'legal weed' since it became legal wherever i live, and I've never noticed huge differences between strains. I also have ungodly tolerance because I'm essentially a 24/7 smoker when I'm at home, so I've ruined the whole thing anyway.

yeah, I'm just not seeing how the range thing is a myth.

When they pull out the menu at the Apple Weed Store it's almost all 20% THC, negligible amounts of other cannabinoids. Given two joints that are high in THC and low in everything else, is it more likely that there's an unknown factor making them noticeably different or is it the weed sommelier telling you Orange Skunkshine will really get you going?

It's all of a piece with 'tequila makes me horny but whiskey makes me sad' or my friends at 18 who were absolutely sure that some ecstasy we were getting was 'heroin based' because it was chill (and not because we were taking it at an apartment and listening to Chet Baker instead of rolling at a club).

well as Josh alludes to I think mindset and where you are plays a big role. if you're nervous about an upcoming election getting high and watching a debate sounds like a nightmare.

not gonna claim that all 7000 strains of weed have their own unique profile but I can tell the difference between an indica and sativa. maybe not in edibles though.

i get a massive laugh when i cross the CT/MA border on I-91 and just get bombarded with weed billboards as if i were driving into the south.