"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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"Thanks to me the biggest landslide in history! I got people more out to vote than you've ever seen before, Legally- or otherwise! Too bad you know what I'm still President!"

nashwan, Friday, 30 October 2020 17:35 (five years ago)

y'all laugh but

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:38 (five years ago)

"I won, 180 to 358! Some people say 180 is a bigger number!"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:39 (five years ago)

"Congratulations to the President of the Upside Down."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2020 17:40 (five years ago)

"I won, 180 to 358! Some people say 180 is a bigger number!"

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, October 30, 2020 10:39 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

iirc 24 is the highest number

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:42 (five years ago)

but three is the magic number!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:42 (five years ago)

Numbers have been very unfair, very unfair.

jmm, Friday, 30 October 2020 17:43 (five years ago)

https://pbbmath.weebly.com/uploads/4/5/2/1/45219553/published/capture_17.jpeg?1499449056

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 October 2020 17:44 (five years ago)

Numbers is the worst book of the Bible!

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:46 (five years ago)

Two Corinthians far better

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:46 (five years ago)

I'm sure they'll have no difficulty figuring out the numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHFB40WOMOo&ab_channel=JMRieger

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:46 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHFB40WOMOo&ab_channel=JMRieger

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:46 (five years ago)

why why why why

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:46 (five years ago)

ya'll tried reading Job past the first chapter of God's boasts? He's worse than Kanye in 2013.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:47 (five years ago)

http://youtu.be/DHFB40WOMOo

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:47 (five years ago)

ah a historian

Well, let's see, Norwegian synth-pop act from the early 1980s, biggest hit "Take on Me," driven by an innovative video that combined live action and animation during a time when the then-nascent format of MTV was...

Oh, wait, never mind

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:55 (five years ago)

NC looking good. and something to bear in mind

Early votes and processed mail ballots, which are likely to be relatively stronger for Mr. Biden, will be reported around 7:30 p.m. Election day results, which are likely to be relatively stronger for Mr. Trump, will be reported between 8:30 p.m. and 1 a.m. Officials estimate that upward of 98 percent of ballots cast will be reported on election night.

i.e. expect AP to call NC on the night. if NC and FL (which should also call that night) go biden then as long as biden at least holds clinton's states he's won, regardless of late ballot bullshit in PA etc., and it's very difficult to see how he wouldn't hold those states in a world where he flipped NC/FL.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:56 (five years ago)

Re: Trump's change of election night plan, my alarmist take is that he plans instead to hunker down while the cops and proud boys mobilize

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:58 (five years ago)

Interesting that the famously sanguine Trump camp isn't referring to it as a victory party

Right now, he probably understands that if a victory lap is taken on the night of Nov. 3, it won't be him taking it. He must rely on a delayed result to have a shot at winning. Therefore, if he does get the indecisive results he wants, he can make his planned statements about 'many, many people are saying there was much fraud, etc.' from the impressive and official surroundings of the WH press room, or even more likely the Oval Office! Those statements claiming fraud may already be drafted by now.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:12 (five years ago)

remember he claimed the election HE WON was fraudulent so he's not just gonna saunter off

frogbs, Friday, 30 October 2020 18:20 (five years ago)

I just said something approaching this in the Greenwald thread but:

Cautiously, I have this sneaking suspicion that even some Republicans are feeling Trump fatigue and if he looks like a loser on Tuesday, they won't necessarily try all that hard to overturn the will of the people.

I don't mean national-level politicians, necessarily. But the apparatus of secretaries of state, state election commissioners, state legislators, state-level judges. If it's a losing battle to grind through every ballot when clearly the tide of the nation is against them, what's their incentive to fight on?

Perhaps some of them will just say "fuck it, why am I busting my ass for this out-of-touch loser maniac?"

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:20 (five years ago)

it's basically "aw come on, Uncle Carl, why's your dick out again, it's Christmas!"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:21 (five years ago)

yes along those same lines I'm wondering to what extent a lot of these people have been making private-sector contingency plans, and having seen the writing on the wall are already halfway out the door.

It's probably only here, with the prospect of doing something else with their lives, that some of these people might acknowlege a little shame—not pubicly of course, but to themeselves

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:26 (five years ago)

In September I read a Miami Herald or Politico story in which Ron DeSantis was already sending feelers out to the Biden people.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:28 (five years ago)

Silver's noted this before as he says but:

Gonna keep repeating this point, because it has a variety of implications for vote counting, what happens if some ballots come in after the deadline, etc.: There is lots of evidence that Democrats sent their ballots in sooner than Republicans.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 30, 2020

In Florida, for example, mail ballots received by the morning of Oct. 14 were +21 D by party registration. But ballots received in the past 48 hours were just +6 D.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 30, 2020

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2020 18:30 (five years ago)

Particularly if Ds with outstanding mail ballots are hearing messages from the Biden campaign etc. and are also now more likely to use dropboxes, or to decide to vote in person instead, it's not clear what the partisan composition of late-arriving mail ballots will look like.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 30, 2020

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

not pubicly of course, but to themeselves

nice to think they might, but I guess we'd never know.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:32 (five years ago)

we don't really need to know so long as they get the fuck out of the way

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:33 (five years ago)

Perhaps some of them will just say "fuck it, why am I busting my ass for this out-of-touch loser maniac?"

Well, unless they can invalidate enough votes in their state to flip a Senate race to the Republican candidate and thereby keep control of the Senate...

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:39 (five years ago)

AZ doesn't notify you if ballot was accepted but I just checked some website and mine was accepted, phew. I'm sure that fucker Gosar will be reelected to the House but if AZ goes for Biden I'll be ecstatic.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:41 (five years ago)

Like, there's no way the Texas GOP doesn't fuck with the Harris County votes as much as possible if Hegar beats Cornyn by a slim margin.

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:41 (five years ago)

lmao if the GOP court decisions end up fucking over GOP voters

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:44 (five years ago)

not pubicly of course, but to themeselves

Pubic shame isn't what it was

Alba, Friday, 30 October 2020 18:45 (five years ago)

They are already trying to throw out 100,000 votes in Harris County

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:45 (five years ago)

Xxp I did have a brief freakout cause it said it didn't have my ballot. But then I removed the space in my last name (eg vandyke not van dyke). Obv I'm pretty used to that being an issue with my name.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

Texas messes with itself.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

Nancy Pelosi sent me this grift

I am incredibly concerned.

I was just informed we’ve fallen behind Republicans in the early vote count.

AND that I’m facing a dangerous $97,891 budget gap to fix it.

Hear me, Robert: We’ve worked too hard and shattered too many expectations to lose this election now.

If we’re going to win, I have no choice but to fill this budget gap before tomorrow’s End of Month Deadline.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:00 (five years ago)

so shameless

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:01 (five years ago)

New national Opinium poll has Biden even leading with white voters:

Going into the weekend, Biden held a comfortable, nine-point national lead in polling averages, and multiple recent polls have depicted an even larger lead in the popular vote for Biden. In the latest Opinium Research/Guardian poll, released on Friday, Biden led Trump by 14 points, 55-41.

The poll, which surveyed 2,009 US adults online from 26-29 October, found severe deterioration for Trump among some of his most reliable supporters, including white voters, a group he won by 15 points in 2016, and which no Republican presidential candidate has lost for 50 years. Biden holds a narrow, 49-47 lead among white voters, the poll found.

The poll additionally found that a 57% majority of likely 2020 voters who did not vote in 2016 supported Biden.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/30/us-election-roundup-trump-biden-battleground-states-pandemic

Alba, Friday, 30 October 2020 19:02 (five years ago)

joe biden: he sucks so bad even white people will vote for him

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:04 (five years ago)

yeah my gut won't listen to anything since 2016 but my brain is screaming "Biden landslide incoming"

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:08 (five years ago)

New national Opinium poll has Biden even leading with white voters:


I believe the result but the argument for ignoring individual polls is particularly strong if they come from British pollsters (same goes for yougov), and extra strong if the claim in the headline comes from a subsample of the sample.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:11 (five years ago)

This cannot POSSIBLY be good news for Republicans. New voters and previous non-voters just don't turn out to show how much they love Big Daddy Incumbent. They just fucking don't. This is a "please get this motherfucker out of our lives" election. Period.

We have exceeded 20M voters who didn't cast a ballot in '16 having already voted in this election - 20,357,512 to be exact.

That's 27.2% of all ballots cast, and more people than live in any one US state other than CA, TX, and FL.

— Tom Bonier (@tbonier) October 30, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:12 (five years ago)

The poll additionally found that a 57% majority of likely 2020 voters who did not vote in 2016 supported Biden

guessing there are a lot of ‘Covington Kids’ who’ve turned 18 over the last 4 years but ngl I would have thought this particular number would be higher

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:13 (five years ago)

You know what correlates with Democratic turnout? Republican turnout. You know how close these elections are going to be? Close. Ignore the early voting counts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:16 (five years ago)

Ignore the early voting counts.

This.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:19 (five years ago)

You know how close these elections are going to be? Close.

the possible results range from "Trump wins by a hair" to "Biden wins in a landslide."

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:19 (five years ago)

You know what correlates with Democratic turnout? Republican turnout.

OTMFM

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:20 (five years ago)

didn't seem to be the case in 2018

frogbs, Friday, 30 October 2020 19:21 (five years ago)

Eh. I'm not Mr. Hope and Change, never have been, but no one here's telling themselves or voters to kick it through Tuesday night. Letting people feel good about data is salutary and necessary, especially during COVID.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:22 (five years ago)


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