"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

Do Wine Moms Dream of Electric Sheep

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I live in Wisconsin, the "single issue wolf voter" is definitely a thing

Welp, there goes the country.

(JK, Wisconsin is literally one of the worst places in the globe right now for how COVID cases are trending.)

Personally I'm a three wolf moon voter.

Also today I learned Glenn Greenwald's middle name

is it Gary

lol

Always be complaining

(JK, Wisconsin is literally one of the worst places in the globe right now for how COVID cases are trending.)

― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Thursday, October 29, 2020 3:28 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yup if you look at the top 20 cities for infections per capita, we've got #3 (Beaver Dam), #7 (Sheboygan, where I live), #8 (Wausau), #10 (Fond du Lac), #11 (Oshkosh), #12 (Manitowoc, my hometown), #14 (Appleton), #15 (Green Bay), #18 (Stevens Point), and #20 (Eau Claire). On Wisconsin!!!

You're the Manitowoc Minute guy aren't ya

that dude had never even been to Manitowoc before he came up with that character

re: the title of the thread, i thought this was a good piece

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/opinion/trump-arts-culture.html

Yeah, I liked that, too.

Every moment spent thinking about Trump is a moment that could have been spent contemplating, creating or appreciating something else. Trump is a narcissistic philistine, and he bent American culture toward him.

that's not true, we have plenty of time to do that stuff now

If you like ketchup on a well-done steak, then he's no philistine.

Before Trump, I’d never had the feeling of wanting to fast-forward through the era I was living in, of longing to be in the future, looking back at how it all turned out.

i felt this a lot over the past 4 years, despite the fact they both my kids were born in that time, and i should have been savoring it. what a bunch of shit.

To a point I brought up this morning:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/mail-in-ballots-supreme-court-pennsylvania-wisconsin-north-carolina/index.html

All those in-transit ballots have to arrive by Tuesday to be counted in Wisconsin. So that is unsettling. Hopefully Biden's lead is large enough that late ballots won't matter.

doesn't automatically discarding ballots have an equal chance of hurting Republicans?

Potentially an even greater one, given that there's been a huge emphasis on the Democratic side to vote early regardless.

I just assumed it would hurt Democrats in blue states (and wouldn't matter to them in red states). Wisconsin is extremely important, and Biden's up 7-10 in most polls.

Trump postponed tonight's Fayetteville, North Carolina rally to Monday, due to bad weather. Surprised he didn't just do it anyway.

xpost -- Remember that these are not nationwide decisions but individual state ones. The only reason Trump et al are venting is that these are swing states or seen to be.

Welp, add Minnesota to the list of states that might have hundreds of thousands of invalidated absentee ballots: https://cbsloc.al/37Uh7Ow

I’m not sure I buy this is bad for Biden, literally every Dem voter I know made a point to vote early because they knew the GOP was gonna try to steal it

it's Thursday, will the outstanding ballots really not be delivered by next Tuesday?

Trump is a narcissistic philistine, and he bent American culture toward him.

this lets America off the hook imho

it's Thursday, will the outstanding ballots really not be delivered by next Tuesday?

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5f626e7cde8955b36a7f436f/960x0.jpg

"Trump is a narcissistic philistine, and he bent American culture toward him."

this lets America off the hook imho

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, October 29, 2020

yes otm

I guess the ruling in MN was like the one in WI. "However well-intentioned and appropriate from a policy perspective in the context of a pandemic during a presidential election, it is not the province of a state executive official to re-write the state’s election code, at least as it pertains to selection of presidential electors”. These court rulings are confusing

THIS IS THE DECISION I HAVE BEEN WARNING ABOUT FOR WEEKS. There is NO Supreme Court precedent to back up the 8th Circuit. This is a radical made-up theory Republicans are using to prevent states from counting ballots! THIS IS DANGEROUS FUCKING TERRITORY! https://t.co/etL0CYFmCM

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) October 29, 2020

These court rulings are confusing

Ya think?

that's scary. I always think Mark Joseph Stern is right

hah nice!

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/523500-georgia-senator-to-skip-debate-after-democratic-rival-goes-viral

THIS IS THE DECISION I HAVE BEEN WARNING ABOUT FOR WEEKS. There is NO Supreme Court precedent to back up the 8th Circuit. This is a radical made-up theory Republicans are using to prevent states from counting ballots! THIS IS DANGEROUS FUCKING TERRITORY! https://t.co/etL0CYFmCM
— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) October 29, 2020
― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:09 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The US are ruined.

I feel like I'm often lately trying to understand lawyers' interpretations of court decisions regarding the election that are arcane. I don't know who to believe, and the decisions themselves often seem like some kind of roulette, with no explanation that is coherent to us

what’s to stop state officials from counting all the ballots and daring DOJ to do something about it?

what’s to stop state officials from counting all the ballots and daring DOJ to do something about it?

Didn’t mean to do that

Republican-controlled legislatures and their ability to choose electors, which they are champing at the bit for any excuse to deploy

Minnesota's "blessed" with a split legislature rn.

Right, and I guess it would take a SCOTUS travesty to even allow the interpretation that would let legislators pick the electors directly, but PA and WI are fully R controlled

(that is, an interpretation that would let legislators pick electors and also not be subject to a governor's veto)

you are thinking way beyond me. where does it go from it being about votes counted to 'legislators picking electors'

It's a "see what sticks" kinda election.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/trump-plan-legislature-appoint-electors-end-democracy.html

describes it better than I can

Tho I admit I'm lost now too.

Avoid this if you're allergic to optimism:

National Journal has unlocked my column early, here it is, might need to fill out a form to access. Unlocked link: https://t.co/hVIxNV7YIp

— Charlie Cook (@CharlieCookDC) October 30, 2020

Not allergic to, but for sure no longer fluent in.